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oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Apr 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
Soderlund got injured twice this season. Not sure if the 2nd injury was an aggravation of the 1st one. Either way, he did miss considerable time in the AHL including a rehab stint in ECHL as you pointed out.

If he is allowed to play his game, Soderlund is ultra quick and nimble with a keen ability to make plays at top speed, get his nose dirty, and crash the rough areas.

Another way he thinks the game fast is by knowing his options so he isn't forced into turnovers by skating fast into dead ends.

On top of his skills and hockey sense, he's fearless. Even at 5'9", he doesn't back down to anyone. He's built like a hydrant so collisions with him impact the opponent just as much if not more.

While he'd be hard pressed to replicate Arvidsson's offensive stats, Soderlund at least has a similar build and playing style.

- AEL_Fox


Thanks that good info ,I still have hope he will make it . I agree Arvidsson level may be out of reach . Good PK and bottom 6 would be nice .
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 4 @ 9:06 PM ET
Agreed. We would not be wise to move an asset - and I am not even a fan of Strome - for a dman whom is not much if any an upgrade to our veterans. We are developing and promoting kids on the blueline. We do not need Miller

I like Kahun but same situation as with the bevy of kids we plan to promote.on defense.

I foresee a decision to be made with Strome. He needs to take that next step. He might do so in part with the re-emergence of DeBrincat. Eventually if Barrett is the real deal, then I would strongly suggest to consider whether you want both slow afoot Strome and Barrett on the same roster. Especially if you plan a lot of TOI for both. Win more puck races and do not play catch up with the rest of the league which will continue to gravitate to more and more speed

As a side note, I wonder how many years Tavarez is a top producer if league keeps getting faster. Oh not for a while probably if he retains too linemattes.

- jhawk59

I don't think forecasting or expecting a permanent downturn in Tavares' production and career makes a lot of sense at age 29. He is consistently a 30 goal/70+ point; a real hockey player by anybodys standards.

Now you could argue he won't have the footspeed to play center well into his 30s but they will move him to left wing where he will still produce because he goes to the net and finds ways to convert. With Team Canada that's where Babcock played him and he was effective. Speed is a great asset but hockey sense, anticipation and hands make a real player.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Apr 4 @ 9:45 PM ET
Agreed. We would not be wise to move an asset - and I am not even a fan of Strome - for a dman whom is not much if any an upgrade to our veterans. We are developing and promoting kids on the blueline. We do not need Miller

I like Kahun but same situation as with the bevy of kids we plan to promote.on defense.

I foresee a decision to be made with Strome. He needs to take that next step. He might do so in part with the re-emergence of DeBrincat. Eventually if Barrett is the real deal, then I would strongly suggest to consider whether you want both slow afoot Strome and Barrett on the same roster. Especially if you plan a lot of TOI for both. Win more puck races and do not play catch up with the rest of the league which will continue to gravitate to more and more speed

As a side note, I wonder how many years Tavarez is a top producer if league keeps getting faster. Oh not for a while probably if he retains too linemattes.

- jhawk59

Big no to that trade .Strom battle a ankle injury and those can be tricky ,and ADB struggles were a perfect storm for Strom
I have been a big basher of the Leafs signing Tavarez .I always thought they had a great young team already ,and bringing in Tavares upset the balance on the ice and in the cap space . I know Hossa worked for HAWKS way back when ,but they had defense's .The Leafs could have used defense maybe two for the price of Tavares . Hossa is a far better player then Tarvarez also .
Moving Tavarez to the wing would be away to use him as he slows down ,but will also leave a hole a center for the Leafs , maybe Nylander could slide in there .
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 4 @ 10:23 PM ET
I don't think forecasting or expecting a permanent downturn in Tavares' production and career makes a lot of sense at age 29. He is consistently a 30 goal/70+ point; a real hockey player by anybodys standards.

Now you could argue he won't have the footspeed to play center well into his 30s but they will move him to left wing where he will still produce because he goes to the net and finds ways to convert. With Team Canada that's where Babcock played him and he was effective. Speed is a great asset but hockey sense, anticipation and hands make a real player.

- RickJ

Agreed. Tavarez less effective as a center was my major point. Quality linemattes and as you explained, move to wing makes a difference.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 4 @ 10:56 PM ET
https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Michael-Ghofrani/Sabres-Off-Season-Blueprint-Wheeling-and-Dealing/277/105014

In the Sabres blog, Tyler's counterpart Michael Ghofrani suggests 3 possible trades and one is with the Hawks. Tyler is consulted and quoted in the blog with his take.

Hawks get:
Kahun and D-man Colin Miller

Sabres get:
Strome and Sikura

Ghofrani also suggests possible numbers for Strome if he re-signs with the Hawks, i.e. 2-3 years at $3.5-$4.5M per season with the likelihood of doing 3 years to align with bestie DeBrincat's new deal that kicks in next season.

- AEL_Fox


Yeah, of course he does, when the best player goes to the SABRES, in Strome, the Hawks get tagged with Miller, and I am not sure Kahun is more than redundant as he is looking like a Dominic Kubalik lite...maybe the hawks knew that they could easily trade him because he was replaced. (I just realized I stole redundant from a previous post LAHawk threw up.)
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 4 @ 10:59 PM ET
That doesn’t take away from the fact that Stan is inept and should have got more in each deal.
- DarthKane


I think he worked the phones...you think he turned down more?

That the GMs won't speak with him.

What could he have done?

if his name was Jimmy Johns then the other GMs would have been all over paying MORE Foran add of big mouth Lehner(who could stop a shoot out) or the one way Gus?
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Apr 5 @ 9:09 AM ET
I think he worked the phones...you think he turned down more?

That the GMs won't speak with him.

What could he have done?

if his name was Jimmy Johns then the other GMs would have been all over paying MORE Foran add of big mouth Lehner(who could stop a shoot out) or the one way Gus?

- wiz1901



lol Wiz. Don't mind Darth. If Stan had gotten back two 1sts and a 2nd for Gus, he would have still said "Stan fail"....you gotta take his comments for what they are...
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Apr 5 @ 9:20 AM ET
lol Wiz. Don't mind Darth. If Stan had gotten back two 1sts and a 2nd for Gus, he would have still said "Stan fail"....you gotta take his comments for what they are...
- hawk35


For a lot of people there's an 85/15 rule of thumb or a 90/10 in terms of the pulling your leg to serious ratio.

For Darth it's like a 99.5/.5 rule.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 5 @ 9:46 AM ET
For a lot of people there's an 85/15 rule of thumb or a 90/10 in terms of the pulling your leg to serious ratio.

For Darth it's like a 99.5/.5 rule.

- HawkintheD

Or, at some points, we’ll all find out that he was being serious in all of his posts....
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 5 @ 10:06 AM ET
Many medical, scientific, and other people with more knowledge than most (and all with more credibility than our President) are saying that it is very possible that sports seasons won’t get back before next year - even football won’t open this fall.

Could be a lot of days without hockey.

https://www.washingtonpos...ou-might-not-like-answer/
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 5 @ 10:19 AM ET
Regular season would have ended yesterday with the first round of the playoffs scheduled to begin later this week. Wonder what the first round match ups would have been. No doubt in my mind that the Hawks would have missed out.

Based on the standings when the hiatus began (not taking into account differences in games played) the first round matches would be:

Predators or Canucks vs Blues
Jets vs Golden Knights
Stars vs Avalanche
Flames vs Oilers (would have loved to see this one)

Hurricanes or Blue Jackets vs Bruins
Hurricanes or Blue Jackets vs Capitals
Leafs vs Lightning
Penguins vs Flyers (another good series)

boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
Many medical, scientific, and other people with more knowledge than most (and all with more credibility than our President) are saying that it is very possible that sports seasons won’t get back before next year - even football won’t open this fall.

Could be a lot of days without hockey.

https://www.washingtonpos...ou-might-not-like-answer/

- StLBravesFan


The link is behind a pay wall. Care to summarize? Thanks.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 5 @ 10:22 AM ET
For a lot of people there's an 85/15 rule of thumb or a 90/10 in terms of the pulling your leg to serious ratio.

For Darth it's like a 99.5/.5 rule.

- HawkintheD



spanky
Joined: 07.12.2010

Apr 5 @ 10:56 AM ET
Many medical, scientific, and other people with more knowledge than most (and all with more credibility than our President) are saying that it is very possible that sports seasons won’t get back before next year - even football won’t open this fall.

Could be a lot of days without hockey.

https://www.washingtonpos...ou-might-not-like-answer/

- StLBravesFan


Washington Post..... Yikes! That is part of the “fake news “ media . Most of the
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
Many medical, scientific, and other people with more knowledge than most (and all with more credibility than our President) are saying that it is very possible that sports seasons won’t get back before next year - even football won’t open this fall.

Could be a lot of days without hockey.

https://www.washingtonpos...ou-might-not-like-answer/

- StLBravesFan


I don’t except the NHL season to resume and it wouldn’t surprise me to see next season start late.

Lots of people around Canada and the US aren’t social distancing as they should. I know it’s not fun to stay at home, but people need to be smarter.
spanky
Joined: 07.12.2010

Apr 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
Many medical, scientific, and other people with more knowledge than most (and all with more credibility than our President) are saying that it is very possible that sports seasons won’t get back before next year - even football won’t open this fall.

Could be a lot of days without hockey.

https://www.washingtonpos...ou-might-not-like-answer/

- StLBravesFan


Washington Post..... Yikes! That is part of the “fake news “ media . Most of the Nobel laureate epidemiologist such as Dr. Levitt and Dr. Bhakdi think this corona virus will be controlled in the near future... it’s the public panic and job statuses that will take a long time to recover. Let’s be optimistic!
just69sayin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago
Joined: 11.15.2014

Apr 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
I don’t except the NHL season to resume and it wouldn’t surprise me to see next season start late.

Lots of people around Canada and the US aren’t social distancing as they should. I know it’s not fun to stay at home, but people need to be smarter.

- DarthKane

Yes. Time for me to wear a wrapped cloth ( a tshirt) around my mouth for the mask when in the store.
On a hockey note since we were talking Kyle Calder the great 5th round pick...made me think (uh oh... I know)...who was a draft pick that provided the most impact relative to least hype? Calder would be pretty high I would think however he didnt play that many years here
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
I don’t except the NHL season to resume and it wouldn’t surprise me to see next season start late.

Lots of people around Canada and the US aren’t social distancing as they should. I know it’s not fun to stay at home, but people need to be smarter.

- DarthKane

This coriona will get pretty scary and needs to hit home with way too many folks. Martial law curfews national guard...it's coming sooner than you may have thought ....very soon spiking in New York; Chicago is catching up to New York. People think they are invincible and or safe enough. Nice weather spurs going outside. Now you are beginning to see what I claimed all along, no more sports ....hope for some fall time baseball is being optimistic. Do owners have insurance if no season? Does it cost more to pay players and operate venues with barely a trickle of fans? There is a lot of contact between players and close grouping. Even after an innoculation the Corona could spike - although lower totals- until and if government can corral homeless and other segments of the population who don':t care or are unable to take care of themselves.

Even if this goes away and regulations back to work, places open again....who feels secure if someone in your path coughs. You move from your seat at the hockey game? Paranoid to get tested again? Fans will be short in cash so attendance will be down just from expenditure side of the hoped for successful return to normalcy of operation..

I imagine there could become a greater divide or difference between the amount if well paid and low paid athletes. More newbies get an opportunity to break into lineups, maybe not totally ready prospects, and or dark horse minor leaguers and collegiate + European players may ascend to NHL sooner. Of course the compliance buyout and the looming expansion draft helps push the influx of newbies along..

Things will be different when hockey returns. And for some of us who had friends or family, even acquitances at hockey games....they could be missed either because they stay away or passed away. NO FOOTBALL FOR SURE. TheTrubinsky challenge on hold.
TJYTJY
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2017

Apr 5 @ 12:17 PM ET
Looks like John's sellout streak will be coming to an end.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 5 @ 12:39 PM ET
Washington Post..... Yikes! That is part of the “fake news “ media . Most of the Nobel laureate epidemiologist such as Dr. Levitt and Dr. Bhakdi think this corona virus will be controlled in the near future... it’s the public panic and job statuses that will take a long time to recover. Let’s be optimistic!
- spanky

You’re a (frank)ing idiot.

If anyone wants me suspended for this - go ahead.

But you are.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 5 @ 12:40 PM ET
I don’t except the NHL season to resume and it wouldn’t surprise me to see next season start late.

Lots of people around Canada and the US aren’t social distancing as they should. I know it’s not fun to stay at home, but people need to be smarter.

- DarthKane

The problem may well be a second surge after the drop off in the summer.

The real normalcy won’t be back until there is a vaccine and “herd immunity” can take over. That is not likely until certainly into 2021, 12 months or more away.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
I could see that as well.

Hagel and Entwistle have more skill than Highmore so they could push for 3rd line roles if they develop well.

Fortin really stepped up this season and could still yet be worth developing into a bottom 6 forward. I wrote him off last year but he proved me wrong.

Soderlund has the skill, speed, fearlessness, and tenacity but just needs to stay healthy and be given the opportuniy to play when healthy.

- AEL_Fox



Shaw type maybe, too tough for his size? Hits at that tenacity and size take their toll?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Apr 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
You’re a (frank)ing idiot.

If anyone wants me suspended for this - go ahead.

But you are.

- StLBravesFan


You're right, everyone should panic

35Tony0
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Springfield, IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Apr 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
As for me and my house, we are very optimistic post 3-surgery Seabrook can and will perform at the level he was prior to the series we lost to St Louis in 2016.
There we stand, we can do no other.
spanky
Joined: 07.12.2010

Apr 5 @ 2:12 PM ET
You’re a (frank)ing idiot.

If anyone wants me suspended for this - go ahead.

But you are.

- StLBravesFan



We all have opinions...you my friend should chill out and take a cold shower if must be!
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