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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Rumor: Teams get 1 “Mulligan Buyout” when we return. Who Would You?
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 31 @ 10:32 AM ET
how exactly are they fixed again. They’re going to lose Barrie for nothing, and will rely on 2 unproven rookies to fill out their top six. Not what “contenders” should be doing.

Your team is, at best, a fringe playoff teamand the cap issues they have are likely to mean they won’t be any better than that. I know you’ll never admit that, which is great because it’s that much funnier to see you squirm every time this team fails hilariously.

- sensarmy_11


6th best NHL record once Keefe took over with all those injuries, including losing their 2 top D.

Who doesn't have cap issues? LOL.

What will Tampa do in the summer or is anyone aware? I know you hear Leafs have the worst cap situation, but they don't.

I love how Barrie is supposed to be so bad on the Leafs, but once he leaves it's devestating for them.

Rielly/Muzzin/Holl/Dermott/Sandin/Lilljegren is a fine D to go into the summer with before any additions.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 31 @ 10:43 AM ET
6th best NHL record once Keefe took over with all those injuries, including losing their 2 top D.

Who doesn't have cap issues? LOL.

What will Tampa do in the summer or is anyone aware? I know you hear Leafs have the worst cap situation, but they don't.

I love how Barrie is supposed to be so bad on the Leafs, but once he leaves it's devestating for them.

Rielly/Muzzin/Holl/Dermott/Sandin/Lilljegren is a fine D to go into the summer with before any additions.

- RogerRoeper


Tampa is in the same cap he’ll, difference is that they already have a SIGNIFICANTLY better team.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 31 @ 10:44 AM ET
6th best NHL record once Keefe took over with all those injuries, including losing their 2 top D.

Who doesn't have cap issues? LOL.

What will Tampa do in the summer or is anyone aware? I know you hear Leafs have the worst cap situation, but they don't.

I love how Barrie is supposed to be so bad on the Leafs, but once he leaves it's devestating for them.

Rielly/Muzzin/Holl/Dermott/Sandin/Lilljegren is a fine D to go into the summer with before any additions.

- RogerRoeper


And who said Barrie was bad. You like to point to your team only since Keene took over......well since then he’s been arguably your best dman, and you’re going to lose him for nothing. Solid cap management
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Mar 31 @ 10:46 AM ET
Roeper, you just need to give it up man. Even leaf fans all think your opinions are a joke. You’re mocked on leaf threads as much or more than Spatso, and that’s from your own damn fan base. That alone should tell you all you need to know about you and your opinions.
Djmbrown
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 02.07.2015

Mar 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
The waiver situation benefits the players.

In your scenario, the player would lose their guaranteed contract, probably not got get the full amount of their contract, and not be involved in the decision about how their career would continue.

Buyouts were already something that was heavily negotiated, and the players already hate them. There's zero chance the NHLPA would ever agree to anything that's worse for the player.

- Hunkulese


No the player would still get their buyout. They just wouldn’t be able to double dip as much by signing another (probably overpayment) contract. They’d get their buyout pay plus league min.

My solution to players hating the buyouts is either don’t push for massive money when you know you’re not going to live up to it. Or play every game like your job depends on it. Nowhere else in the world can people half-@ss it at their jobs and expect to be fully compensated (politicians aside).
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
Tampa is in the same cap he’ll, difference is that they already have a SIGNIFICANTLY better team.
- sensarmy_11


They will be losing pieces this summer and they won 0 playoff games last year and are an older group...
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
Roeper, you just need to give it up man. Even leaf fans all think your opinions are a joke. You’re mocked on leaf threads as much or more than Spatso, and that’s from your own damn fan base. That alone should tell you all you need to know about you and your opinions.
- sensarmy_11


My opinions are proven true time and time again.
6th best record with new cocah with 30th best save % and no Rielly and Muzzin. They are terrible. ok buddy...

Thery have a great core that's still young and locked-up long-term...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 12:58 PM ET
There are a number of horrible contracts that were given out that were horrible and regrettable long before the pandemic.
- Aetherial


That's always going to be the case but the point is that every player bought may not be because it's a bad contract. The salary cap always comes into play. For example, if there was no cap, would Washington have traded Niskanen to the Flyers for Gudas? Decisions may have to be made that are forced by the cap.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 31 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'd go for Benn. He's been dropping off the past couple of years and had to get called out by his GM in order to show he still gave a damn. 9.5 for the next 5 years is going to hurt when his production really tanks.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'd go for Benn. He's been dropping off the past couple of years and had to get called out by his GM in order to show he still gave a damn. 9.5 for the next 5 years is going to hurt when his production really tanks.
- mgriffen


The reality is he's passed his prime years and plays a style where guys look done at 30. I called this the day he signed it.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'd go for Benn. He's been dropping off the past couple of years and had to get called out by his GM in order to show he still gave a damn. 9.5 for the next 5 years is going to hurt when his production really tanks.
- mgriffen


The reality is he's passed his prime years and plays a style where guys look done at 30. I called this the day he signed it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 1:00 PM ET
No the player would still get their buyout. They just wouldn’t be able to double dip as much by signing another (probably overpayment) contract. They’d get their buyout pay plus league min.

My solution to players hating the buyouts is either don’t push for massive money when you know you’re not going to live up to it. Or play every game like your job depends on it. Nowhere else in the world can people half-@ss it at their jobs and expect to be fully compensated (politicians aside).

- Djmbrown


You're making a really bad assumption that every player bought out has been half assing it. Your premise will never happen.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 31 @ 1:02 PM ET
No the player would still get their buyout. They just wouldn’t be able to double dip as much by signing another (probably overpayment) contract. They’d get their buyout pay plus league min.

My solution to players hating the buyouts is either don’t push for massive money when you know you’re not going to live up to it. Or play every game like your job depends on it. Nowhere else in the world can people half-@ss it at their jobs and expect to be fully compensated (politicians aside).

- Djmbrown


No where else in the world do you peak at 25 at your career.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 31 @ 2:42 PM ET
Oh! Has Bob come up here? Cause that looks so damn bad one season in
jerryj22
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.29.2009

Apr 1 @ 1:03 AM ET
100 % Kyle Okposo ...Great Guy Horrible Contract
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Apr 1 @ 9:55 AM ET
And who said Barrie was bad. You like to point to your team only since Keene took over......well since then he’s been arguably your best dman, and you’re going to lose him for nothing. Solid cap management
- sensarmy_11


Oh he has because Riellky and Muzzin were injured.
Djmbrown
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 02.07.2015

Apr 1 @ 6:19 PM ET
You're making a really bad assumption that every player bought out has been half assing it. Your premise will never happen.
- MJL


But I’m glad you all came up with creative solutions on your own as suggested in my original posts. Super easy to be a troll and just bash others ideas without coming up with one of your own. Good job trolls!!!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 1 @ 6:36 PM ET
But I’m glad you all came up with creative solutions on your own as suggested in my original posts. Super easy to be a troll and just bash others ideas without coming up with one of your own. Good job trolls!!!!
- Djmbrown


Calling your premise a non starter is not trolling. There were numerous flaws in it. I don't feel there is a need to come up with a creative solution because I feel that in the right situation, compliance buyouts are a necessity. For example, the player I chose for the team I root for, the Flyers, was JVR. He's actually played well this year and has even drastically improved his play away from the puck. I'm not choosing to buy him out because he is "half assing" it. I'm choosing to buy him out for the cap flexibility it will add and his age and the Flyers have highly talented young forwards such as Farabee and Frost who can replace him.
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