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fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
Marner for an elite defenceman. Doughty and a top prospect, which the Kings are loaded with should get it done. And the money is a wash. You have Doughty for at least five years of big minutes and by then the prospect is better than Marner.
- Hardbalz

wb(?), ug
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Mar 28 @ 11:33 AM ET
Shanny sounds drunk on blue kool-aid. This team sucks. Dubas should be fired. Should have traded Marner for a top d-man, and not let Kadri go. Also, lol at Kyle Clifford. Did he bring his big red dog?
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 28 @ 11:39 AM ET
Shanny sounds drunk on blue kool-aid. This team sucks. Dubas should be fired. Should have traded Marner for a top d-man, and not let Kadri go. Also, lol at Kyle Clifford. Did he bring his big red dog?
- Kooleus


oh
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Mar 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
Anyone that wants to trade Marner for anyone is eating quarantine crayons.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Anyone that wants to trade Marner for anyone is eating quarantine crayons.
- Blazed


But we’re getting an unnamed prospect that’s going to be better than him
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Mar 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Bottom line. Cap ain't going up what was projected several weeks ago by Daley. Most likely going up VERY LITTLE, or staying flat. Not good for my Hawks. But, we are 2-3 years away from being competative, so not a killer. But, also not good for a Leafs team with half the Cap used on 4 guys. Going to make Dubas's job even harder if he clings to his idea of moving none of them. Looking like the salary structure going forward won't change much. Going to be tough for Dubas to improve that defense unless Barrie comes back on a low deal or he finds some veterans willing to play for less to be a Leaf. Sandin will be a help as he develops. He will be a good one. But, young yet and likely couple years away from being solid enough in own end to be a big minute guy you can count on.
- hawk35



I have no worries about any cap related issues at all. People can make up all the doom and gloom poop all they want. Bettman is not a stupid man and he knows that when the NHL does return, the league will need to make up for lost revenue. To have the leagues top money generating teams not being able to put the best possible product on the ice is just not good business.
Trust me there will be many creative ideas tabled on the subject, an artificial inflated cap is already being mentioned. Plus if the season does get canceled you can almost guarantee they will look at going over the collective bargaining agreement including things like rollbacks, buyouts and excreta. It would plain (frank)ing stupid not to and a potential league suicide, going into 2021 with a possible lockout looming over your head.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Not sure about consistency but at least Marincin is training hard.

https://twitter.com/ziyat...tatus/1243546306980786182

- Canada Cup

This is actually a lot more entertaining than the NBA.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
I have no worries about any cap related issues at all. People can make up all the doom and gloom poop all they want. Bettman is not a stupid man and he knows that when the NHL does return, the league will need to make up for lost revenue. To have the leagues top money generating teams not being able to put the best possible product on the ice is just not good business.
Trust me there will be many creative ideas tabled on the subject, an artificial inflated cap is already being mentioned. Plus if the season does get canceled you can almost guarantee they will look at going over the collective bargaining agreement including things like rollbacks, buyouts and excreta. It would plain (frank)ing stupid not to and a potential league suicide, going into 2021 with a possible lockout looming over your head.

- Buck Norris

Nailed it.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
But we’re getting an unnamed prospect that’s going to be better than him
- Canada Cup

Guy. There’s plenty of those!

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Jrw10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 02.21.2013

Mar 28 @ 12:01 PM ET
You surely are putting on a brave face Shanny, folks can see right through it, order Dubas to trade one of the fab 4 for a absolutely necessary defense upgrade, which this team needs to progress!
Blazed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.18.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
If they do cancel the season, the Leafs will have had a 47 goal scoring center in back-to-back seasons. Best part is it was two different centers.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Mar 28 @ 12:05 PM ET
Anyone that wants to trade Marner for anyone is eating quarantine crayons.
- Blazed

Well what is the plan? Wasting the best years of Mathews and Tavares? Or will you get an elite defenceman for Nylander? I'm thinking no. Don't understand the denial with the teams fans regarding the back end. Holl, Dermott, Sandin, Liljegren can reach full potential and maturity but the fact that they aren't good enough won't change. For the most part they're soft and small. No draft choices. Somebody will have to go to improve. The team has scoring in abundance. Leafs remind me of the oilers drifting through their superstars best years. Argue that
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 28 @ 12:08 PM ET
You surely are putting on a brave face Shanny, folks can see right through it, order Dubas to trade one of the fab 4 for a absolutely necessary defense upgrade, which this team needs to progress!
- Jrw10

No.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
Well what is the plan? Wasting the best years of Mathews and Tavares? Or will you get an elite defenceman for Nylander? I'm thinking no. Don't understand the denial with the teams fans regarding the back end. Holl, Dermott, Sandin, Liljegren can reach full potential and maturity but the fact that they aren't good enough won't change. For the most part they're soft and small. No draft choices. Somebody will have to go to improve. The team has scoring in abundance. Leafs remind me of the oilers drifting through their superstars best years. Argue that
- Hardbalz

The Leafs have quite a few years left with the core 4 playing in their prime. Relax.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:11 PM ET
Guy. There’s plenty of those!

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- RickJames77


Let’s sign those super freaks
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Mar 28 @ 12:24 PM ET
Shanny sounds drunk on blue kool-aid. This team sucks. Dubas should be fired. Should have traded Marner for a top d-man, and not let Kadri go. Also, lol at Kyle Clifford. Did he bring his big red dog?
- Kooleus


Coward troll, too ashamed to state the team he cheers for. Too stupid to think of a handle that does not mean ass
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Mar 28 @ 12:29 PM ET

A lot of people think that the Leafs only option to get a good defenseman is to trade Nylander because of the number $6.9.... The other option that no one usually considers is Ceci walks $4.5 plus a trade of Johnsson $3.4 is $7.9.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 28 @ 12:34 PM ET
Limerick man says stay at home

https://twitter.com/charl.../1243923083704111104?s=21
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Mar 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
The Leafs have quite a few years left with the core 4 playing in their prime. Relax.
- mjones242

Agreed. But the core four needs to include a d-man. Preferably a guy who can play twenty five plus per game. Or unload one of the big four for high draft picks/high end prospects, which will free up cap space so they can go all in on a guy like Pietrangelo. Solves two problems with one swing. Leafs will still have plenty of offence. Picks are becoming scarce. If you're hating the idea of losing one of Marner or Nylander you better brace yourself. Dubas has options but free agents aren't one of them as things stand
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Mar 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
Coward troll, too ashamed to state the team he cheers for. Too stupid to think of a handle that does not mean ass
- winsix


Ouch I'm hurt. Send Dubas with a participation ribbon.
dunner84
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 12.08.2017

Mar 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
Agreed. But the core four needs to include a d-man. Preferably a guy who can play twenty five plus per game. Or unload one of the big four for high draft picks/high end prospects, which will free up cap space so they can go all in on a guy like Pietrangelo. Solves two problems with one swing. Leafs will still have plenty of offence. Picks are becoming scarce. If you're hating the idea of losing one of Marner or Nylander you better brace yourself. Dubas has options but free agents aren't one of them as things stand
- Hardbalz


Include Reilly, and you have a core 5.. You got your core Dman.. Overpaying for a UFA like Pietro is not good business. They need 3-4mil/yr guys that know how to play the position... If you want to know what overpaying your backend looks like, go to San Jose.. I think what people fail to realize is a team with 5 Doughtys still gets scored on..
The tough defensive teams play a tough defensive system.

Boston leads the league with fewest goals against.. No Doughty, No Pietrolangelo, No Hedman.. 40yr old Chara isn't the reason. Rask who has been solid in his through his career, has also been known to go stretches letting on soft goals, and is not suddenly the best goalie in the league... They don't exactly have the smartest coach either...

They have an EXPERIENCED core, and filled in the holes with the right pieces...
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Mar 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
Ouch I'm hurt. Send Dubas with a participation ribbon.
- Kooleus


Koolo------> Culo--------->
Culo is a vulgar word in Spanish literally meaning "butt" or "ass,




You-------->
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Mar 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
The Leafs have quite a few years left with the core 4 playing in their prime. Relax.
- mjones242


Only 4 years. Then Matthews goes to Arizona as a FA. Haven't you been paying attention??? Tick-tock....
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Mar 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Koolo------> Culo--------->




You-------->

- winsix

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Mar 28 @ 1:13 PM ET
Marner for an elite defenceman. Doughty and a top prospect, which the Kings are loaded with should get it done. And the money is a wash. You have Doughty for at least five years of big minutes and by then the prospect is better than Marner.
- Hardbalz

Shut up
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