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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Leafs Report Card - Defense : Part V (Liljegren and Rosen)
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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
I say trade him now and get some assets back while you can (he's UFA after next season). There's a glut of goalies on the UFA market this season that you could possibly sign for half of what Freddie currently makes. Or the Leafs could look at bringing in a guy like Timur Bilyalov, who seemingly defies reality at 5'10, as a backup.

Use the money you're saving on his contract to put towards signing Pietro.

Let's not forget that a guy like Lehner was a legit Vezina candidate with the right pieces in front of him. If the Leafs shore up their d-corps with a stud RHD (playing 25-26 mins a night) and make sure that forwards are committed to a 200' game, I don't see why we necessarily need Freddie in net.

I'm really thinking the Leafs will have a tough time re-signing him when he hits the market after next season. That's one of the things that concerns me most. I'd hate for him to walk and have nothing to show for it.

- mjones242

These are my thoughts too.

If there is a season this year, how Andersen plays in the playoffs will go a long way for his future with the team.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Mar 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
With the unexplainably high grade the Leafs d-men received here they should have the top defense in the league instead of one of the softest, mistake pron and over-rated one in the NHL.:
- islansjet


Leafs are better and younger than Jets. Why don't you stick your head up your ass to see if it fits? After that you can suck Zezel's balls
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
Could he handle this any worse?
- Byfuglien Ate Me


We will find out soon im sure
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:25 PM ET
Donald keeps Trumping on

https://twitter.com/ddale...tatus/1243564012564029441



what a buffoon

- senstroll


Yesterday he had Peter Navarro laughably go on CNN and blame Obama for a lack of ventilators for something he did in 2009..
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Mar 27 @ 12:29 PM ET
With the unexplainably high grade the Leafs d-men received here they should have the top defense in the league instead of one of the softest, mistake pron and over-rated one in the NHL.
- islansjet

I'm out of toilet paper. Is your mom around?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:33 PM ET
I understand that, but Freddy has done so much for the team, and I’m not ready to give up on him yet. The Leafs went so long w/o a legit starter. Now that we have Campbell to take some of the workload, I expect Freddy’s numbers to improve. And if they figure out the defensive woes, I think he could be a vezina candidate again.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Fine but nothing in his stats or accomplishments says he deserves some long-term deal at 7 million+ per.
NHL is going to a 2 goalie system. If he wants some big contract he won't get it. He's not Marner or Matthews.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:34 PM ET
With the unexplainably high grade the Leafs d-men received here they should have the top defense in the league instead of one of the softest, mistake pron and over-rated one in the NHL.
- islansjet


Leafs are considered to have the worst D in the NHL WTF are you talking about?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 12:49 PM ET
Yesterday he had Peter Navarro laughably go on CNN and blame Obama for a lack of ventilators for something he did in 2009..
- RogerRoeper


https://twitter.com/mmfa/...tatus/1243366748226646016

Americans are so (frank)ed now, and if this maniac is given 4 more years of terror its unthinkable the damage he will do

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1243366748226646016

Americans are so (frank)ed now, and if this maniac is given 4 more years of terror its unthinkable the damage he will do

- senstroll


It's hilarious they think he made an amazing economy. Obama's last 3 years were better economically than anything he's given them and he's doubled the debt in under 4 years.

The damage he' s doing will be felt for years.

Joe Exotic would have done a better job if he got elected in 2016
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
My mind is blown.

Reading Mirtle in the Athletic, somebody asked what the Leafs would do if the NHL decides to grant each team one compliance buyout.

Mirtle said the Leafs wouldn't need it.

I laughed my ass off - FFS, it's the Leafs!

And then I realized - holy poop, they really wouldn't need to buy out anyone.

What the hell is going on?

These aren't my Leafs!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
It's hilarious they think he made an amazing economy. Obama's last 3 years were better economically than anything he's given them and he's doubled the debt in under 4 years.

The damage he' s doing will be felt for years.

Joe Exotic would have done a better job if he got elected in 2016

- RogerRoeper

Their assistance packages are hilariously bad, because Trump painted them into a corner fiscally.

Nothing like cutting taxes and increasing spending at the same time - what could possibly go wrong?

The whole "should we bail out the cruise industry" thingy is heating up. I'm just going to poop my pants with laughter if they bail out companies that don't pay US taxes.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
Freddy and Lehner are in the same category (said that when Lehner was a UFA, before he joined the Islanders).
You cannot have a worse goalie (Campbell) in net and expect that you're set in goal.

- MaximusAurelius

Lehner was awful in Buffalo. Change of scenery with a team that plays excellent D in front of him? Result = Vezina candidate.

The Leafs have a single season left with a UFA-pending goalie who has been inconsistent and has not shown that he can be a big game goalie.

Not understanding the Freddie love or that the Leafs should really be so desperate as to need to keep him between the pipes.

Seems pretty clear to me the team needs to be committed to team defense. If they do that, who knows what JC is capable of?

Certainly no one expected Lehner to be lights out.

Speaking of RN, interesting that he was mediocre with Chicago but has been great with VGK. Why could that be?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1243366748226646016

Americans are so (frank)ed now, and if this maniac is given 4 more years of terror its unthinkable the damage he will do

- senstroll


10 years of Ford or 4 years of Trump?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Mar 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
Lehner was awful in Buffalo. Change of scenery with a team that plays excellent D in front of him? Result = Vezina candidate.

The Leafs have a single season left with a UFA-pending goalie who has been inconsistent and has not shown that he can be a big game goalie.

Not understanding the Freddie love or that the Leafs should really be so desperate as to need to keep him between the pipes.

Seems pretty clear to me the team needs to be committed to team defense. If they do that, who knows what JC is capable of?

Certainly no one expected Lehner to be lights out.

Speaking of RN, interesting that he was mediocre with Chicago but has been great with VGK. Why could that be?

- mjones242


except he wasn't (at least for those paying attention).
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
My mind is blown.

Reading Mirtle in the Athletic, somebody asked what the Leafs would do if the NHL decides to grant each team one compliance buyout.

Mirtle said the Leafs wouldn't need it.

I laughed my ass off - FFS, it's the Leafs!

And then I realized - holy poop, they really wouldn't need to buy out anyone.

What the hell is going on?

These aren't my Leafs!

- Atomic Wedgie

Buyout marner then immediately sign him to a lower cap hit.

Or are they not allowed to sign them again after buying them out.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:14 PM ET
Their assistance packages are hilariously bad, because Trump painted them into a corner fiscally.

Nothing like cutting taxes and increasing spending at the same time - what could possibly go wrong?

The whole "should we bail out the cruise industry" thingy is heating up. I'm just going to poop my pants with laughter if they bail out companies that don't pay US taxes.

- Atomic Wedgie


Republicans were able to sneak a tax change into relief package worth $120 B to richest real estate tycoons (cough Trump, Kushner)

https://www.nytimes.com/2...e-investors-stimulus.html
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 1:18 PM ET
Their assistance packages are hilariously bad, because Trump painted them into a corner fiscally.

Nothing like cutting taxes and increasing spending at the same time - what could possibly go wrong?

The whole "should we bail out the cruise industry" thingy is heating up. I'm just going to poop my pants with laughter if they bail out companies that don't pay US taxes.

- Atomic Wedgie


they will, the top level execs and shareholders are US, and the system in the US is corrupt top down
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 1:19 PM ET
10 years of Ford or 4 years of Trump?
- Canada Cup


punch in the balls or kick in the head?
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Mar 27 @ 1:20 PM ET
Leafs are better and younger than Jets. Why don't you stick your head up your ass to see if it fits? After that you can suck Zezel's balls

- winsix

Probably take awhile for him to handle all those items on his plate at the same time.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 27 @ 1:22 PM ET
10 years of Ford or 4 years of Trump?
- Canada Cup


Ford hasn't done a terrible job so far during this whole thing.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 1:25 PM ET
Ford hasn't done a terrible job so far during this whole thing.
- TheMussel


Ill give him credit for listening to experts (after initially saying dumb things like go away for march break), and cracking down on people jacking up prices on panic buy items
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:27 PM ET
Ford hasn't done a terrible job so far during this whole thing.
- TheMussel


I know. He’s shut up and listened to the people who know what’s going on. He might have acted a bit slowly but that’s true of just about everyone. Having said that it doesn’t help that funding to hospitals have left us vulnerable
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 27 @ 1:33 PM ET
I wish it were as simple as just becoming a fan of another team. (frank) the Jacobs family
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 27 @ 1:34 PM ET
Ford hasn't done a terrible job so far during this whole thing.
- TheMussel

Not terrible no.
Prior to this, he was doing a pretty terrible job.
Glad hes listening to experts and gone against raising prices.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 1:36 PM ET

So am I the only person not doing this when it comes to groceries?

https://www.nytimes.com/2...e-investors-stimulus.html
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