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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 27 @ 10:46 AM ET
I think an 29yo Alex peteranglo is that type of RHD
- senstroll

Ya and he is just money if he makes it to ufa.

Would you trade Freddie to free up $5 million with emergence of Campbell?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Mar 27 @ 10:48 AM ET
Ya and he is just money if he makes it to ufa.

Would you trade Freddie to free up $5 million with emergence of Campbell?

- bryant

No.

Freddy is a legit starter, and better. Campbell is a perfect backup, let him be that.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
No.

Freddy is a legit starter, and he’s younger than Campbell, and better. Campbell is a perfect backup, let him be that.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

You have 1 more year of Andersen and then he is going to want 8-9 million. Plus Rielly needs a new deal. If this Covid 19 ruins the cap the following year the leafs may have to make some tough choices.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Mar 27 @ 10:52 AM ET
You have 1 more year of Andersen and then he is going to want 8-9 million. Plus Rielly needs a new deal. If this Covid 19 ruins the cap the following year the leafs may have to make some tough choices.
- bryant

I understand that, but Freddy has done so much for the team, and I’m not ready to give up on him yet. The Leafs went so long w/o a legit starter. Now that we have Campbell to take some of the workload, I expect Freddy’s numbers to improve. And if they figure out the defensive woes, I think he could be a vezina candidate again.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Mar 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
Ya and he is just money if he makes it to ufa.

Would you trade Freddie to free up $5 million with emergence of Campbell?

- bryant



I like the guy, but I think it’s a stretch to give him the net with such a small sample size.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
another LHD, the Leafs are already full with Muzzin, Rielly , Sandin and Dermott

I think its a pass for that reason

- senstroll


That and the trade was made up on Hockeybuzz.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
You have 1 more year of Andersen and then he is going to want 8-9 million. Plus Rielly needs a new deal. If this Covid 19 ruins the cap the following year the leafs may have to make some tough choices.
- bryant


it's not a tough choice.

from most to less importance (taking into account abilities, specific skillset, rest of the team build, caphit) it's:

1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Rielly
4. Tavares
5. Hyman
6. Andersen
7. Nylander
--
8-25: rest.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
That and the trade was made up on Hockeybuzz.
- bixll


(frank)... You mean it's not real?


bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think it’s some British dude..

I used to feel the same way about MMA, but now I just respect the talent some of those guys have. It’s an art form.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Agreed
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
(frank)... You mean it's not real?



- .HOHO.


Lolol. No buddy its not
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
I understand that, but Freddy has done so much for the team, and I’m not ready to give up on him yet. The Leafs went so long w/o a legit starter. Now that we have Campbell to take some of the workload, I expect Freddy’s numbers to improve. And if they figure out the defensive woes, I think he could be a vezina candidate again.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I like Freddie too just throwing ideas around.

Would the leafs be better with adding pietrangelo on the back end with Campbell in net but lose Freddie and johnsson to make up the money to sign pietrangelo

Or

Keep Freddie and johnsson with Campbell staying backup
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Mar 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
I like Freddie too just throwing ideas around.

Would the leafs be better with adding pietrangelo on the back end with Campbell in net but lose Freddie and johnsson to make up the money to sign pietrangelo

Or

Keep Freddie and johnsson with Campbell staying backup

- bryant

There’s a lot of hypotheticals here.

I don’t necessarily think they’d have to acquire Piets to stabilize the back end, but if they’re going to go that route, Kap/Dermott/Mango or Nylander would have to go.

I hope the NHL says “(frank) it” for one time only, let’s boost the cap because the virus messed so much up already. Or sets up a luxury tax type of deal so the star UFA’s don’t get squeezed out.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 27 @ 11:07 AM ET
I like the guy, but I think it’s a stretch to give him the net with such a small sample size.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

It was a stretch to give Freddie the net too. They traded for him and he was a backup behind Gibson but they immediately signed him to a 5 year deal and made him the starter before he even played a game.

Campbell seems to be doing well in this market so far. He was also a high draft pick so he has always had a lot of promise.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Mar 27 @ 11:11 AM ET
It was a stretch to give Freddie the net too. They traded for him and he was a backup behind Gibson but they immediately signed him to a 5 year deal and made him the starter before he even played a game.

Campbell seems to be doing well in this market so far. He was also a high draft pick so he has always had a lot of promise.

- bryant


That’s fair. I read somewhere that Joe Woll will be vying for the starter position as well.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Mar 27 @ 11:12 AM ET
That’s fair. I read somewhere that Joe Woll will be vying for the starter position as well.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

For the Marlies maybe..
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Mar 27 @ 11:18 AM ET
For the Marlies maybe..
- Arctic_AARDVARK


That’s fine. I haven’t been impressed with Casketsuoh and Owuya.
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Mar 27 @ 11:38 AM ET
With the unexplainably high grade the Leafs d-men received here they should have the top defense in the league instead of one of the softest, mistake pron and over-rated one in the NHL.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 11:38 AM ET
Ya and he is just money if he makes it to ufa.

Would you trade Freddie to free up $5 million with emergence of Campbell?

- bryant


i think if AP is free as a UFA, you can look at moving Willie I guess to make it work.

I am not sold on Campbell as a reliable starter
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Mar 27 @ 11:40 AM ET
I understand that, but Freddy has done so much for the team, and I’m not ready to give up on him yet. The Leafs went so long w/o a legit starter. Now that we have Campbell to take some of the workload, I expect Freddy’s numbers to improve. And if they figure out the defensive woes, I think he could be a vezina candidate again.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I say trade him now and get some assets back while you can (he's UFA after next season). There's a glut of goalies on the UFA market this season that you could possibly sign for half of what Freddie currently makes. Or the Leafs could look at bringing in a guy like Timur Bilyalov, who seemingly defies reality at 5'10, as a backup.

Use the money you're saving on his contract to put towards signing Pietro.

Let's not forget that a guy like Lehner was a legit Vezina candidate with the right pieces in front of him. If the Leafs shore up their d-corps with a stud RHD (playing 25-26 mins a night) and make sure that forwards are committed to a 200' game, I don't see why we necessarily need Freddie in net.

I'm really thinking the Leafs will have a tough time re-signing him when he hits the market after next season. That's one of the things that concerns me most. I'd hate for him to walk and have nothing to show for it.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 27 @ 11:44 AM ET
Hockey Talk

A trade proposal in the Sens blog

The Trade
To Toronto: Erik Brannstrom, Islanders 2020 1st Round Pick, Blue Jackets 2020 2nd Round Pick

To Ottawa: William Nylander

- senstroll

A short convo.

No thank you
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Mar 27 @ 11:45 AM ET
I say trade him now and get some assets back while you can (he's UFA after next season). There's a glut of goalies on the UFA market this season that you could possibly sign for half of what Freddie currently makes. Or the Leafs could look at bringing in a guy like Timur Bilyalov, who seemingly defies reality at 5'10, as a backup.

Use the money you're saving on his contract to put towards signing Pietro.

Let's not forget that a guy like Lehner was a legit Vezina candidate with the right pieces in front of him. If the Leafs shore up their d-corps with a stud RHD (playing 25-26 mins a night) and make sure that forwards are committed to a 200' game, I don't see why we necessarily need Freddie in net.

I'm really thinking the Leafs will have a tough time re-signing him when he hits the market after next season. That's one of the things that concerns me most. I'd hate for him to walk and have nothing to show for it.

- mjones242


Freddy and Lehner are in the same category (said that when Lehner was a UFA, before he joined the Islanders).
You cannot have a worse goalie (Campbell) in net and expect that you're set in goal.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ya and he is just money if he makes it to ufa.

Would you trade Freddie to free up $5 million with emergence of Campbell?

- bryant

Emergence?
You mean the 2-3 games he played well?
Doesnt exactly mean hes ready to be 60 game starter.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 11:59 AM ET
Donald keeps Trumping on

https://twitter.com/ddale...tatus/1243564012564029441

General Motors sold that factory in November 2019 after it laid everyone off and outsourced those jobs because of Trump's corporate tax cuts.


what a buffoon
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ,all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
Donald keeps Trumping on

https://twitter.com/ddale...tatus/1243564012564029441



what a buffoon

- senstroll


He backed out of $1 Billion deal with GM because he doesn’t believe they need as many as the different States are asking for

https://www.nytimes.com/2...us-ventilators-trump.html
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Mar 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
He backed out of $1 Billion deal with GM because he doesn’t believe they need as many as the different States are asking for

https://www.nytimes.com/2...us-ventilators-trump.html

- Canada Cup


Could he handle this any worse?
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