Karine
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Location: Lévis, QC Joined: 10.27.2018
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Shaw was 1 concussion away from becoming a vegetable. Good on Bergevin for banking on him while he still had value. - BashCH
Hence why the blog says this: Yes, I know, trading Shaw was not a bad idea, his value was high and his concussion history was scary so if a team was willing to take him, we had to let him go. The issue wasn't sending him packing, it was failing to replace him. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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I'm not roasting him for trading Shaw, I even say he was right to do so. The problem is that it created a hole in the line-up and his production was not replaced. I was amazed that a team came knocking to get him...trade him for picks fine but you need something to replace him in the line-up if you intend on being competitive and Bergevin intends to be every year...or so he tells us. I feel like he traded Shaw thinking that roster spot would be filled by Aho but then he made that half arsed offer sheet attempt and when it didn't work, he didn't try to find a plan B there lies the problem. - Karine Hains
Byron was supposed to take his place but got hurt. If he was there all year performing like he did the last 2 weeks that he played no one talks about that. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Hence why the blog says this: Yes, I know, trading Shaw was not a bad idea, his value was high and his concussion history was scary so if a team was willing to take him, we had to let him go. The issue wasn't sending him packing, it was failing to replace him. - Karine Hains
Habs have tons of left wingers. Bergevin must've thought that one was going to take the load (Drouin, Byron, Tatar, Lehkonen, Hudon, Cousins, etc). |
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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 04.13.2009
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Byron was supposed to take his place but got hurt. If he was there all year performing like he did the last 2 weeks that he played no one talks about that. - BashCH
Byron is great and all, but not top 6 material... |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Byron is great and all, but not top 6 material... - Good On Paper
Shaw wasn't a top 6 player as well. |
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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 04.13.2009
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Habs have tons of left wingers. Bergevin must've thought that one was going to take the load (Drouin, Byron, Tatar, Lehkonen, Hudon, Cousins, etc). - BashCH
The lines were:
Tatar Danault Gally
Drouin Domi Shaw
If he expected one of Byron, Lehkonen or Cousins to replace Shaw, then Bergy is even more poop than I thought. |
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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 04.13.2009
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Shaw wasn't a top 6 player as well. - BashCH
He was, on our team. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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The lines were:
Tatar Danault Gally
Drouin Domi Shaw
If he expected one of Byron, Lehkonen or Cousins to replace Shaw, then Bergy is even more poop than I thought. - Good On Paper
How many (frank)ing wingers does a team need ? I don't blame him at all for not getting another one. It's not like Shaw is an irreplaceable stud... |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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He was, on our team. - Good On Paper
So is Byron. |
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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 04.13.2009
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How many (frank)ing wingers does a team need ? I don't blame him at all for not getting another one. It's not like Shaw is an irreplaceable stud... - BashCH
The point is that Shaw had top 6 production on our team. Bergy expected one of those 3rd/4th liners to replace that production. Solid plan. |
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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 04.13.2009
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So is Byron. - BashCH
By default. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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The point is that Shaw had top 6 production on our team. Bergy expected one of those 3rd/4th liners to replace that production. Solid plan. - Good On Paper
Shaw had a career season. Look at his previous production and you can see it was a fluke. What did you expect Bergevin to do ? Trade for a top 6 winger when their defense is poop ? |
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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 04.13.2009
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Shaw had a career season. Look at his previous production and you can see it was a fluke. What did you expect Bergevin to do ? Trade for a top 6 winger when their defense is poop ? - BashCH
Well, going by his plan to remain competitive every year, then yes. He left a big hole on the second line and then expected to make the playoffs... |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Well, going by his plan to remain competitive every year, then yes. He left a big hole on the second line and then expected to make the playoffs... - Good On Paper
His plan doesn't make sense. Trading Shaw and not replacing him was still a good move IMO.
Unless it could've been done for cheap. Which I doubt. |
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Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 04.13.2009
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His plan doesn't make sense. Trading Shaw and not replacing him was still a good move IMO.
Unless it could've been done for cheap. Which I doubt. - BashCH
Exactly!
It was a good move by our logic, not by his. It was contradictory to his plan. |
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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Exactly!
It was a good move by our logic, not by his. It was contradictory to his plan. - Good On Paper
That I can agree with.
I blame him for having such a fragile team that losing Andrew (frank)ing Shaw is a reason given for their poopty season. Don't blame him for trading him though. |
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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: disguise delimit, QC Joined: 08.28.2009
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That I can agree with.
I blame him for having such a fragile team that losing Andrew (frank)ing Shaw is a reason given for their poopty season. Don't blame him for trading him though. - BashCH
just with the injuries, they have plenty of excuses to go around, no need to bring up the loss of Androu Chat |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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By default. - Good On Paper
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Symba007
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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Omg, you're from the FUTURE?!
Happy birthday, to the nuttiest nut that ever nutted. (Mr Peanut, not Juggers) - Darksyde
Thanks darky!
Happy birthday pinote.
How old are you now? 24, 25? - BashCH
Thank you Bash!
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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[quote=mr.peanut]
It's time you get out of school and start real life man...you're starting to get old. |
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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: disguise delimit, QC Joined: 08.28.2009
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https://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/oloffson-essaie-d-effacer-quelques-doutes-1.7358080 - Symba007
Cette pause - et celle imposée par la COVID-19 - lui a permis de réfléchir et il parvient à retenir du positif.
Baon, le virus nous apporte pas juste dla marde finalement lol... |
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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: disguise delimit, QC Joined: 08.28.2009
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It's time you get out of school and start real life man...you're starting to get old. - BashCH
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BashCH
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC Joined: 04.27.2010
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- Pat1993
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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: disguise delimit, QC Joined: 08.28.2009
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- BashCH
oh so he died this year? |
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