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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 23 @ 8:11 PM ET
What rock have you been hiding under? You know his good moves don’t count for anything...only the suspect ones.

#stanblowman
#ridinghisfatherscoattails
#dalethebuilder

- Ogilthorpe2


I must of been “safe at home”. Too long
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 23 @ 8:14 PM ET
Speaking of what ifs, here are a few classic what if moments to think back nostalgically on:

Byfuglien hit on Pronger
https://youtu.be/ugEjgz0hFow

Bolland shortie versus the Canucks
https://youtu.be/UA66X2jM0fs
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Mar 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
What if the Hawks hadn't claimed Nick Seeler off waivers?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:04 PM ET
What if Stan hadn’t let Niemi go to the Sharks after 2010?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 23 @ 9:16 PM ET
What if Stan hadn’t let Niemi go to the Sharks after 2010?
- StLBravesFan


And let Harmalsson go instead?
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:27 PM ET
Not saying you specifically, but when I was banging the “trade Gus now” drum last off-season, the vast majority of people here said I was crazy. Seems like there is now a lot of revisionist history happening on this board.
- Ogilthorpe2


Impossible - Blasphemer!
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Mar 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
Regarding any talk of trading Mitchell (Darth proposed it in the last blog), I would think he has zero trade value. Isn't he untethered from Hawks this summer, basically a free agent? I believe he's completed his college time and is free from his draft status and can sign anywhere (ala Kevin Hayes, and others). If that is correct, then his only connection to Hawks is the goodwill they've built up by the way they have treated him for the last several years. If they traded him, he has no goodwill with the acquiring team, and why would he not simply open himself up to other teams and decide where he wants to go...including back to the Blackhawks. And if you say the Hawks would sign him 1st, then trade him, how would that work for their future in a situation like this, they would have ruined any credibility they have with these college draftees, and nobody would trust them. It seems to me that Mitchell is the one young D that can't be put into a trade hypothetical to cull the herd.
- Cmonalready


You must be new around here
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
What if Stan hadn’t let Lalonde go overseas?
#theonethatgotaway
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Mar 23 @ 10:56 PM ET
Not saying you specifically, but when I was banging the “trade Gus now” drum last off-season, the vast majority of people here said I was crazy. Seems like there is now a lot of revisionist history happening on this board.
- Ogilthorpe2

No offense taken Ogi. As much as I tried to like Gus I couldn't. He had his moments albeit more bad than good. He was Charmin soft between the ears.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Mar 24 @ 1:16 AM ET
What if Tommy Ivan never made the Esposito / Hodge trade...?
- StLBravesFan

And they kept Bobby Hull later on probably 10 straight cup wins or more!
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Mar 24 @ 1:20 AM ET
Not saying you specifically, but when I was banging the “trade Gus now” drum last off-season, the vast majority of people here said I was crazy. Seems like there is now a lot of revisionist history happening on this board.
- Ogilthorpe2

Without doubt the "vast majority" were saying to hold out we would not get enough for him last summer he needs to prove again last year was no fluke and then we will name our price at the TDL.

PS. You can put me on the record for this past year I said trade Dinky (over Saad). I will own it if he's a 30-40 goal scorer next season assuming there is a next season.
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Mar 24 @ 4:44 AM ET
Not saying you specifically, but when I was banging the “trade Gus now” drum last off-season, the vast majority of people here said I was crazy. Seems like there is now a lot of revisionist history happening on this board.
- Ogilthorpe2

I was one also said to trade gust at the draft bur it did not happen. I think it was a miss opportunity by bowman to get either draft capital or a young solid prospect. Even some of my friends who i talk hockey with said i was nuts with that idea.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Mar 24 @ 4:46 AM ET
What if Bowman wasn’t the GM and the Kubalik for a fifth was never made?,
- LAHawk

Its all hindsight plus who is to say a different gm also unearths a player like kubalik and has success with that player.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 24 @ 7:02 AM ET
Without doubt the "vast majority" were saying to hold out we would not get enough for him last summer he needs to prove again last year was no fluke and then we will name our price at the TDL.

PS. You can put me on the record for this past year I said trade Dinky (over Saad). I will own it if he's a 30-40 goal scorer next season assuming there is a next season.

- rpeters01

More like “why would you trade Gus? 60 point defenseman don’t grow on trees. Who would run the PP if you traded him?”
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Mar 24 @ 10:54 AM ET
Hey gang,

I will be doing another Blackhawks Armchair GMing edition on Friday.

Please PM me your CapFriendly roster so I can select this week's lucky winner for me to evaluate.

Hope everyone is healthy and safe out there!!
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Mar 24 @ 11:30 AM ET
More like “why would you trade Gus? 60 point defenseman don’t grow on trees. Who would run the PP if you traded him?”
- Ogilthorpe2

I'm not sure the majority wanted to keep him, maybe a few guys like 'True Grit' thought that he was the future of NHL defensemen.

FWIW, I've wanted him gone since his G7 turnover that led to the Blues goal that beat the Hawks in R1.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:04 PM ET
And let Harmalsson go instead?
- LAHawk

Yes.

No Crawford (possibly), no Hjalmarsson....
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:15 PM ET
I'm not sure the majority wanted to keep him, maybe a few guys like 'True Grit' thought that he was the future of NHL defensemen.

FWIW, I've wanted him gone since his G7 turnover that led to the Blues goal that beat the Hawks in R1.

- scottak

I don’t remember if I wanted to keep him last summer or not - sometimes short term memory goes, sometimes long term memory goes....

I wonder if those who wanted to keep him understood what an outlier last season was in terms of goals, assists, PP quarterbacking, etc.

EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Mar 24 @ 1:11 PM ET
Hi Guys, everyone still having fun?

My wife and I are planning a trip to the local fast food drive thru for probably tomorrow or the next day. I'll send post cards.

In the meantime - enjoy the time away from space invasions ... I know I am.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
Hi Guys, everyone still having fun?

My wife and I are planning a trip to the local fast food drive thru for probably tomorrow or the next day. I'll send post cards.

In the meantime - enjoy the time away from space invasions ... I know I am.

- EbonyRaptor

Steak on a Kaiser for me
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Mar 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
Its all hindsight plus who is to say a different gm also unearths a player like kubalik and has success with that player.
- Scott1977

So maybe stop your whining about everything you deem a mistake then if you can't give some credit too?
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Mar 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
So maybe stop your whining about everything you deem a mistake then if you can't give some credit too?
- GPHawksfan

I have given bowman credit before he has drafted well and imo i thought this past offseason was good. The bad has outweighed the good. Just think its time for a fresh set of eyes at the gm position for the blackhawks.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 24 @ 5:08 PM ET
https://www.secondcityhoc...to-find-players-stats-nhl

Just for fun, Second City Hockey is hosting a challenge to field the best Blackhawks team during the 2010-2020 decade.

I don't particularly care for their guidelines as it requires too much thinking, looking up advanced stats, etc. and is just rather restrictive for something recreational.

Here's my initial stab at an all-decade lineup:

Saad - Toews - Hossa
Panarin - Anisimov - Kane
Shaw - Sharp - Bickell
Bolland - Kruger - Frolik
Ladd, Versteeg

Keith - Seabrook
Oduya - Hjalmarsson
Campbell - Byfuglien
Brookbank, Rozsival

Crawford
Darling

Honorable mentions:
DeBrincat, Murphy, Emery

Flame away!
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Mar 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2020/3/23/21190813/all-2010s-decade-chicago-blackhawks-lineup-tool-challenge-how-to-find-players-stats-nhl

Just for fun, Second City Hockey is hosting a challenge to field the best Blackhawks team during the 2010-2020 decade.

I don't particularly care for their guidelines as it requires too much thinking, looking up advanced stats, etc. and is just rather restrictive for something recreational.

Here's my initial stab at an all-decade lineup:

Saad - Toews - Hossa
Panarin - Anisimov - Kane
Shaw - Sharp - Bickell
Bolland - Kruger - Frolik
Ladd, Versteeg

Keith - Seabrook
Oduya - Hjalmarsson
Campbell - Byfuglien
Brookbank, Rozsival

Crawford
Darling

Honorable mentions:
DeBrincat, Murphy, Emery

Flame away!

- AEL_Fox


Nice list, and fun exercise. The only change I would make is to switch Brad Richards for Anisimov.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Mar 24 @ 5:46 PM ET
https://www.secondcityhockey.com/2020/3/23/21190813/all-2010s-decade-chicago-blackhawks-lineup-tool-challenge-how-to-find-players-stats-nhl

Just for fun, Second City Hockey is hosting a challenge to field the best Blackhawks team during the 2010-2020 decade.

I don't particularly care for their guidelines as it requires too much thinking, looking up advanced stats, etc. and is just rather restrictive for something recreational.

Here's my initial stab at an all-decade lineup:

Saad - Toews - Hossa
Panarin - Anisimov - Kane
Shaw - Sharp - Bickell
Bolland - Kruger - Frolik
Ladd, Versteeg

Keith - Seabrook
Oduya - Hjalmarsson
Campbell - Byfuglien
Brookbank, Rozsival

Crawford
Darling

Honorable mentions:
DeBrincat, Murphy, Emery

Flame away!

- AEL_Fox


I’d move Niemi in instead of Darling - the main goalie in the first Cup vs. one that was critical - but in only one series - in the third.

Strange that of all of the defensemen in the decade, the only two logical choices for the third pairing played only in one season - the first. They couldn’t find any others in the next 10 seasons (maybe Leddy).
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