there was a press conference last night with him and the president? then i was wrong.

he's definitely still doing media tours, but the last few press conferences i saw he was no longer there
- robz228

Yes he was on last night. Only a few people actually. He talked quite a bit

he was at all of them until the switch to lets-get-back-to-work mode

now fauci is gone because i don't think he supports that at all

but fattony said he was in one last night, so perhaps i am wrong
- robz228

He's been in and out of the press conferences all week. It's a strange look, but he also could very well have decided he didn't want to be at the press conferences so as to not seem contentious with the President as well.

Yes he was on last night. Only a few people actually. He talked quite a bit
- Fattony1187

i take my L

He's been in and out of the press conferences all week. It's a strange look, but he also could very well have decided he didn't want to be at the press conferences so as to not seem contentious with the President as well.
- buffalofan19

If that is the case this country is FVCKED

You seem to be one of those people.

I apparently have to do math for you.


if 30 Million people get the flu with a .01% mortality rate - Thats 300,000

Say the mortality rate of this disease is extreme low end is .1 % (In some countries the death rate is over 5%) - If the same number of people get sick, say 30 million. that's 3.0 million people who will die.


Since you still seem to think this is the flu.
300,000 from the flu
3.0 million from this virus

if the same amount of people get sick.

If you cant see why this is happening then you are the problem.
- ImThatGuy

Looks like your someone who can’t critically think either. When da fuq did I say it was just the flu. I never thought that or said that. I said people are gonna die.

If you are able to think I also said most Americans don’t care as long as it doesn’t effect them. That is already being demonstrated by spring breakers, quarintine parties, people who think it won’t effect them because they are young etc...

It’s just a feeling but that’s why I think they will open up restrictions sooner rather then later. God, even Cuomo said that yesterday. He also said 80% of people will get it one way or the other. Either later after quarantine or now if everything is open, which is worse flooding the system at once. Hopefully more time buys a cure.

People like You are the problem. Low IQ readers who take peoples points out of context because your unable to think.

Yeah, it seems different here. More young getting badly infected, but less deaths.

I do wonder if we just haven't hit the point of people starting to die yet. No point in using save percentage in the first period, type of thing.
- robz228

It could be too early, who really knows.
By contrast to others, the US save percentage in the 1st has been pretty good though.

The interesting thing to me is the percentage of tests given that are confirmed as Covid-19. The US testing numbers have been handicapped by the fvck-up at CDC, now that it has been addressed and numerous test are being conducted, I would think that information should emerge from the data collected. I seem to remember the other Doctor (female) at the conferences mentioning about a 11% Positive Test rate a couple days ago.

Maybe you will bump into Hasek while in there. By the way Grant Fuhr was better then and would be today. I know you can’t compare then and now as the game has evolved but honestly Hasek wouldn’t last in todays NHL where as Miller has and still is. Same could be said for Grant Fuhr.
- Camel

this is the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site... Fuhr should NEVER be in the same sentence with Dom. And Dom would be just as good today as he was then. he didn't wear pad 3 times to big, or shoulder pads 5 times to big....you know nothing.

It could be too early, who really knows.
By contrast to others, the US save percentage in the 1st has been pretty good though.

The interesting thing to me is the percentage of tests given that are confirmed as Covid-19. The US testing numbers have been handicapped by the fvck-up at CDC, now that it has been addressed and numerous test are being conducted, I would think that information should emerge from the data collected. I seem to remember the other Doctor (female) at the conferences mentioning about a 11% Positive Test rate a couple days ago.
- IonSabres

The last time poloncarz tweeted out how many tests were conducted, erie county was at 15% positive rate. I'm pretty sure Dr Birx (the woman) said that they were observing 4% positive rate in italy.

I guess we're only testing the most severe symptomed patients? That might explain it. The ages of erie county cases are bizarre too:



It wasn't like this anywhere else in the world

If that is the case this country is FVCKED
- ImThatGuy

Not really, he's been going around the media circuit enough to get his message across. At worst, it's bad optics. At best, there's a strategic reason for doing this other than to feed some media fodder. I'm not bothered by it.

The last time poloncarz tweeted out how many tests were conducted, erie county was at 15% positive rate. I'm pretty sure Dr Birx (the woman) said that they were observing 4% positive rate in italy.

I guess we're only testing the most severe symptomed patients? That might explain it. The ages of erie county cases are bizarre too:



It wasn't like this anywhere else in the world
- robz228

They're only testing people showing symptoms for the most part, though. If you really wanted to get a better picture with a limited sample size, you would have to do randomized testing just like any other scientific test.

They're only testing people showing symptoms for the most part, though. If you really wanted to get a better picture with a limited sample size, you would have to do randomized testing just like any other scientific test.
- buffalofan19

I understand that for positive rate, but the ages here are what don't make any sense.

30-39 year olds being the most affected?

You seem to be one of those people.

I apparently have to do math for you.


if 30 Million people get the flu with a .01% mortality rate - Thats 300,000

Say the mortality rate of this disease is extreme low end is .1 % (In some countries the death rate is over 5%) - If the same number of people get sick, say 30 million. that's 3.0 million people who will die.


Since you still seem to think this is the flu.
300,000 from the flu
3.0 million from this virus

if the same amount of people get sick.

If you cant see why this is happening then you are the problem.
- ImThatGuy

Actually state governments are the problem and their lack of preparedness for a pandemic is the primary reason people are going to die. Of course NYC is going to get rocked by this, the combination of De Blasio and Cuomo are a complete failure for the 8 million people that reside there. What you are seeing now is complete hysteria data that shuts down a country, better believe the climate change loonies are taking notes.

I understand that for positive rate, but the ages here are what don't make any sense.

30-39 year olds being the most affected?
- robz228

There could be a number of factors to this.

They're probably the most social. They're the ones going out, working, shopping, etc. the most. It actually makes more sense than say, the elderly, who even before all of this started, tended to stay at home more.

They're also probably the most likely to call their doctor when they don't feel good.

What's not being disclosed is the age group of the testing population. If more people in that age group are being tested than any other one, then of course they're going to have the highest positives.

Actually state governments are the problem and their lack of preparedness for a pandemic is the primary reason people are going to die. Of course NYC is going to get rocked by this, the combination of De Blasio and Cuomo are a complete failure for the 8 million people that reside there. What you are seeing now is complete hysteria data that shuts down a country, better believe the climate change loonies are taking notes.
- buffalokb

state governments literally weren't allowed to conduct their own tests

The other factor in this is the number of people that get the virus, show symptoms, but still don't report. For example, if I came down with flu-like symptoms, I probably just call in sick, lay in bed for a couple of days until they go away. I've been sick before. I've never called my doctor because the symptoms in my case have always been manageable, which, according to the various government authorities in this matter, is the case for most people that have it.

That means I would never be tested, and never counted among cases.

state governments literally weren't allowed to conduct their own tests
- robz228

CDC and FDA rules. That has changed already luckily and needs to stay that way for future

CDC and FDA rules. That has changed already luckily and needs to stay that way for future
- Fattony1187

i know. im just confused how buffalokb thinks it was unpreparedness at a state level when that is almost unilaterally false.

The other factor in this is the number of people that get the virus, show symptoms, but still don't report. For example, if I came down with flu-like symptoms, I probably just call in sick, lay in bed for a couple of days until they go away. I've been sick before. I've never called my doctor because the symptoms in my case have always been manageable, which, according to the various government authorities in this matter, is the case for most people that have it.
- buffalofan19

That shows some good hope. Only the absolute sickness people are getting tests (minus some a hole rich people). If their mortality rate stays the same that probably means hundreds of thousands of people have it, are recovering on their own and the morbidity rate won’t crush the country.

We need more temp hospitals, more supplies and need to buy some time until a treatment comes so we can stop the deaths of the old people.

The other factor in this is the number of people that get the virus, show symptoms, but still don't report. For example, if I came down with flu-like symptoms, I probably just call in sick, lay in bed for a couple of days until they go away. I've been sick before. I've never called my doctor because the symptoms in my case have always been manageable, which, according to the various government authorities in this matter, is the case for most people that have it.

That means I would never be tested, and never counted among cases.
- buffalofan19

And that is the beauty of the word "estimated", which people throw out the window and take the CDC numbers as a source of truth. What you described above is what I do and probably millions of other people do as well.

The last time poloncarz tweeted out how many tests were conducted, erie county was at 15% positive rate. I'm pretty sure Dr Birx (the woman) said that they were observing 4% positive rate in italy.

I guess we're only testing the most severe symptomed patients? That might explain it. The ages of erie county cases are bizarre too:



It wasn't like this anywhere else in the world
- robz228

Yup, Birx (thanks) did mention they expected a much higher positive rate based on a more stringent Test Strategy.

So if the US tests more stringently (only those meeting defined criteria to be the most likely), and is seeing 10-15% Positive with a Mortality rate of 1.28% (could rise) ... it is still alot of people.
With more testing though, and assuming they open up the testing strategy, perhaps over time the Positive rate approaches 5%?

i know. im just confused how buffalokb thinks it was unpreparedness at a state level when that is almost unilaterally false.
- robz228

Too many regs in govt. I understand why for some things but that hurt us here. It shows how bad our country and most of the world for years ignored a chance this could happen. Italy had the #2 ranked health system in the world and they are getting crushed. This is a big two weeks for US to see if we have same fate.

Too many regs in govt. I understand why for some things but that hurt us here. It shows how bad our country and most of the world for years ignored a chance this could happen. Italy had the #2 ranked health system in the world and they are getting crushed. This is a big two weeks for US to see if we have same fate.
- Fattony1187

The biggest issue Italy faced was the lack of medical supplies, even moreso than the lack of social distancing.

The very fact that we got private companies ramping up production of necessary medical equipment pretty much guarantees we won't get to that point. We also are doing more social distancing than they did. It could still end up being worse than it needed to be, but if I could put money on it, we won't be another Italy.

i know. im just confused how buffalokb thinks it was unpreparedness at a state level when that is almost unilaterally false.
- robz228

My optimistic side of me hopes that a combination of a ventilator as well as the potential malaria drug combo will save lives. Below is from a NY Post article:

"The president apparently was referring to a Gateway Pundit pickup of an op-ed that appeared in The Post Friday by former Lt. Gov. Betsy McCaughey, who said that in 2015, Cuomo and other state officials learned that in a potential pandemic, New York would need 18,000 ventilators but only had 2,000 on hand.

Then-state health commissioner Howard Zucker assembled a task force for rationing the ventilators they already had that recommended that the state not purchase the 16,000 ventilators because there weren’t enough doctors and medical personnel to operate them.

Instead, the task force devised a classification system to prioritize which patients would be treated on a ventilator."

But why are we surprised about the above, classifying patients is textbook government run healthcare. You are seeing it in Italy right now, you are s&%$ out of luck if you are 80 and older.

- homiedclown

Nope - this asshat will gun for 2024. NY cannot get rid of him soon enough.

Too many regs in govt. I understand why for some things but that hurt us here. It shows how bad our country and most of the world for years ignored a chance this could happen. Italy had the #2 ranked health system in the world and they are getting crushed. This is a big two weeks for US to see if we have same fate.
- Fattony1187

after reading this guy's thread

https://twitter.com/Craig...tatus/1242302400762908685

i think we're (frank)ed