Amazon temporarily suspends the shipping of impulse buying poop (aka non-essential items) for a month.
- buffalofan19

oh my

I thought I just read that TOFU is a leading cause for the COVID virus spread.
- TC4145

open a spite shop

it would be fun

whelp, we can discount bogo because everyone here said he shouldn't even be in an nhl uniform...

pilut was injured to start the season and needed time to get up to speed...plus, based upon the second half of last season, he needed a lot of time in Rochester

Gilmour is not an nhl d-man as his 37 games in three seasons might indicate

nelson seems like a tweener

and Borgen is not ready...in fact, it would behoove the team to keep him in Rochester another season and not rush him.
- Michael Pachla

Jason? Jason is that you? lol.
C'mon Michael you're better than this.
The entirity of the world saw it in early July
It was and stil is a cluster.

Thanks, but that is tested right? What is the "presumptive positive"?... I assume that is a certain % of already tested but for which no results are known at that time.
I'm trying to understand the raw number of tested.
- IonSabres

i read somewhere that maryland isn't even reporting tests anymore, only positives

Jason? Jason is that you? lol.
C'mon Michael you're better than this.
The entirity of the world saw it in early July
It was and stil is a cluster.
- IonSabres

risto
montour
bogo


lets add 2 more rd in joker and miller and move none

makes perfect sense

which is transitioning from murray to botts...

he inherited bogo, Okposo and risto's contracts which totaled over $16m and only one of those players was moveable..

he signed skinner long-term and traded for miller who had three years on his deal...

seven players 25 yrs. old and up are free agents after this season (including 2 rfa's) and another, Johansson, is signed through 21-22

so where is the problem?
- Michael Pachla

Because this is where the 2 narratives on Botterill clash and his tenure stops making sense, in my opinion. I dont think you can hold these two thoughts in your head and have them both make sense:

If Botterill was waiting for this off season to make moves, then what was the point of spending assets to acquire the players he did?

If he wasn't trying to be good, he spent a good amount of assets that are walking out the door.

I believe he tried to be good this year and failed. I dont think this was a stealth tank, or they were waiting til 2021 for players to leave. He wanted those players. He's probably going to keep some of those players if he's allowed to stay.

This is what I believe:

He thought between Mitts and Mojo, he had fixed the centers. He thought Vesey was primed for a career contract year and he'd look like a genius. He thought Sheary had more to give. He thought Hutton was a solid 1b. He thought Ralph would buy some more wins. He thought GMs would be clamoring for his depth.

He just miscalculated the entire thing. The coronavirus might save his job

Jason? Jason is that you? lol.
C'mon Michael you're better than this.
The entirity of the world saw it in early July
It was and stil is a cluster.
- IonSabres

nelson, bogo, Gilmour and Borgen should not be considered capable nhl d-men...

c'mon, ion...you're better than that

Because this is where the 2 narratives on Botterill clash and his tenure stops making sense, in my opinion. I dont think you can hold these two thoughts in your head and have them both make sense:

If Botterill was waiting for this off season to make moves, then what was the point of spending assets to acquire the players he did?

If he wasn't trying to be good, he spent a good amount of assets that are walking out the door.

I believe he tried to be good this year and failed. I dont think this was a stealth tank, or they were waiting til 2021 for players to leave. He wanted those players. He's probably going to keep some of those players if he's allowed to stay.

This is what I believe:

He thought between Mitts and Mojo, he had fixed the centers. He thought Vesey was primed for a career contract year and he'd look like a genius. He thought Sheary had more to give. He thought Hutton was a solid 1b. He thought Ralph would buy some more wins. He thought GMs would be clamoring for his depth.

He just miscalculated the entire thing. The coronavirus might save his job
- jcragcrumple

I think he was trying to win this year as well...he failed...why?...many reasons including goaltending...montour playing his opposite side had something to do with it but goaltending, which isn't being brought up, had much more to do with it than too many rhd's...

lack of mid-six contributions is another thing...much more detrimental than too many rhd's...

I said early in the season that his main focus, based upon the number of free agents coming off the books, was this off season...and i'm sticking by that

I think he was trying to win this year as well...he failed...why?...many reasons including goaltending...montour playing his opposite side had something to do with it but goaltending, which isn't being brought up, had much more to do with it than too many rhd's...

lack of mid-six contributions is another thing...much more detrimental than too many rhd's...

I said early in the season that his main focus, based upon the number of free agents coming off the books, was this off season...and i'm sticking by that
- Michael Pachla

coaching
special teams after the first month
middle 6
misuse of skinner
and lack of making a move before winter freeze

So long cam you're a superstar but karma is real .. next time don't talk poop about buffalo like that. . .

So long cam you're a superstar but karma is real .. next time don't talk poop about buffalo like that. . .
- gerbe75pts

I'd sign Cam on a 1 year deal to back up allen

So long cam you're a superstar but karma is real .. next time don't talk poop about buffalo like that. . .
- gerbe75pts

???

I think he was trying to win this year as well...he failed...why?...many reasons including goaltending...montour playing his opposite side had something to do with it but goaltending, which isn't being brought up, had much more to do with it than too many rhd's...

lack of mid-six contributions is another thing...much more detrimental than too many rhd's...

I said early in the season that his main focus, based upon the number of free agents coming off the books, was this off season...and i'm sticking by that
- Michael Pachla

This is where I disagree with Ion as well.

These two issues are inextricably linked to me. The roster spots and the trade assets were largely allocated to the defense to an almost absurd level while the forward ranks were filled with wingers we didnt need, and no centers

Too many RHD isnt just a problem for the defense; it's a problem for the entire roster

what the hell are you talking about

he had better numbers then fuhr and puppa
he was 7th in the league in save % over 5 games
8ths in GAA
https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000331993.html

https://www.hockey-refere...html#stats::goals_against


goalies stats were not great in that era
Hey. He sucked and the others sucked more. Don’t blame me I wasn’t the goalie coach. Most goalies either flopped around like a fish out of water or were not technically refined as they are today. Stand up or lay down we’re the options. Either use stats or don’t use stats but the fact is the game has changed and Hasek being good then certainly doesn’t mean he’d be good today.
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- homiedclown

coaching
special teams after the first month
middle 6
misuse of skinner
and lack of making a move before winter freeze
- homiedclown

nos. 1 and 5 are on botts...the rest are on Krueger

100%

when you have a great player on an ELC it is the most advantageous time to make a run

we wasted all 3 of eichels and we have wasted 2 of dahlin's
- robz228

This point gets hyperbolized to the extreme.

This isn’t like having an elite QB on a rookie deal.

Who was the last team to win the cup with a superstar on an ELC?

Chicago 10 years ago?

I'd sign Cam on a 1 year deal to back up allen
- homiedclown

I dont

nos. 1 and 5 are on botts...the rest are on Krueger
- Michael Pachla

agreed

???
- Michael Pachla

You dont remember this ?

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1161745145206849542

This point gets hyperbolized to the extreme.

This isn’t like having an elite QB on a rookie deal.

Who was the last team to win the cup with a superstar on an ELC?

Chicago 10 years ago?
- sbroads24

who was the last team to have a superstar miss the playoffs in his first five seasons before eichel

this team is a f@cking joke

nos. 1 and 5 are on botts...the rest are on Krueger
- Michael Pachla

The middle 6 as well

It's worth mentioning that the coach was picked by the GM as well

This is where I disagree with Ion as well.

These two issues are inextricably linked to me. The roster spots and the trade assets were largely allocated to the defense to an almost absurd level while the forward ranks were filled with wingers we didnt need, and no centers

Too many RHD isnt just a problem for the defense; it's a problem for the entire roster
- jcragcrumple

three years ago everyone was saying that the d needed a complete overhaul...last year prior to the season risto was supposed to be a big piece of that overhaul...the d has been overhauled with everyone's vision of a modern nhl d-corps featuring dahlin, montour, miller, the joker and pilut next season...who fills the other two spots is up in the air right now...

clusterfrack from last year has been worked through with the status of risto and McCabe still up in the air

hasek was a top 8 goalie in the nhl his first season here, but it seems he sucked

who was the last team to have a superstar miss the playoffs in his first five seasons before eichel

this team is a f@cking joke
- homiedclown

No argument here.

But Toronto has “wasted” Matthews, Marner, Nylander ELC’s as well and they are still all on the team and we’re able to add Tavares.

It’s just a silly point

three years ago everyone was saying that the d needed a complete overhaul...last year prior to the season risto was supposed to be a big piece of that overhaul...the d has been overhauled with everyone's vision of a modern nhl d-corps featuring dahlin, montour, miller, the joker and pilut next season...who fills the other two spots is up in the air right now...

clusterfrack from last year has been worked through with the status of risto and McCabe still up in the air
- Michael Pachla

tom's fault