An Ottawa Senator (unidentified) became the first NHL player to test positive.
- StLBravesFan

Saw a rumor (unconfirmed) that several Senators players are showing symptoms. Suspicion they got from the NBA team that used the locker room before them. Very lucky for Hawks that season was postponed before they played that next game v. the Sens.

Mostly with the Ducks from what I recall.
- HawkintheD

Yeah. And Montreal.

Saw a rumor (unconfirmed) that several Senators players are showing symptoms. Suspicion they got from the NBA team that used the locker room before them. Very lucky for Hawks that season was postponed before they played that next game v. the Sens.
- pdx2ord

And that is why they stopped playing. They have families, too.

Saw a rumor (unconfirmed) that several Senators players are showing symptoms. Suspicion they got from the NBA team that used the locker room before them. Very lucky for Hawks that season was postponed before they played that next game v. the Sens.
- pdx2ord

They were on the West Coast before the shut-down - played in Staples Center the night after the Nets (4 Nets have tested positive) played there.

And that is why they stopped playing. They have families, too.
- Elbows15

Tests being given to pro athletes and Hollywood stars....meanwhile a lot of regular folks are being turned away and not being tested that have very real symptoms.

Tests being given to pro athletes and Hollywood stars....meanwhile a lot of regular folks are being turned away and not being tested that have very real symptoms.
- bhawks2241

Yes - and there should be some kind of random testing (of people showing obvious symptoms or not)throughout the society to try to determine the true extent of the infections.

Yes - and there should be some kind of random testing (of people showing obvious symptoms or not)throughout the society to try to determine the true extent of the infections.
- StLBravesFan

Not a doctor and not trying to slide away from hockey talk but either I am stupid or the statistics being pumped into our brains our a little off...

If you only do limited random testing and most of the tests are given to those with severe symptoms how can you calculate a death rate? Especially when doctors are saying 80% of the healthy population under 50 (or whatever number) will be asymptomatic?

No one knows how many people have it... I imagine it is already above 100k maybe even a lot higher in the US. The CDC estimated H1N1 to be around 60 million. You are seeing asymptomatic athletes get positive tests.

I get the need for social distancing and the very real risk of overwhelming the healthcare system but I keep hearing 1.5-3% mortality rate and all the news networks keep pumping out that number. When this all ends and the CDC estimates the numbers in a few years I bet we see a death rate much closer to the normal flu.

Also....wth did we all due before the flu shots? Just get the flu and die?

Yes - and there should be some kind of random testing (of people showing obvious symptoms or not)throughout the society to try to determine the true extent of the infections.
- StLBravesFan

Oh and 100% agree. This goes to my issue with the skewed numbers being pumped out.

Tests being given to pro athletes and Hollywood stars....meanwhile a lot of regular folks are being turned away and not being tested that have very real symptoms.
- bhawks2241

That's the way life is

Bears acquire QB Nick Foles from Jacksonville for a 4th round pick. Some competition for Mitch.
- boilermaker100

& got Robert Quinn & Jimmy Graham. Lost Leonard Floyd. I'm conflicted over a lot of these names & prices that Pace paid for these guys ... even if there isn't a "salary cap" in football.

Not a doctor and not trying to slide away from hockey talk but either I am stupid or the statistics being pumped into our brains our a little off...

If you only do limited random testing and most of the tests are given to those with severe symptoms how can you calculate a death rate? Especially when doctors are saying 80% of the healthy population under 50 (or whatever number) will be asymptomatic?

No one knows how many people have it... I imagine it is already above 100k maybe even a lot higher in the US. The CDC estimated H1N1 to be around 60 million. You are seeing asymptomatic athletes get positive tests.

I get the need for social distancing and the very real risk of overwhelming the healthcare system but I keep hearing 1.5-3% mortality rate and all the news networks keep pumping out that number. When this all ends and the CDC estimates the numbers in a few years I bet we see a death rate much closer to the normal flu.

Also....wth did we all due before the flu shots? Just get the flu and die?
- bhawks2241

As a high risk person, following this very closely, and this is how I would answer those questions after watching and reading what's been available:

They're basing the estimated death rates on the experiences of the other countries who were ahead of us in this fight. You're right that we (the US) are not currently capable of calculating cases, survivors, died correctly because of the fact that we are severely rationing testing. Quite possible that many 1000s have had this and recovered or never shown symptoms (yet kept passing it along). They also need to look at hospitalizations and deaths attributed to pneumonia - any spikes in those numbers outside of the norm might mean a misclassification of the COVID virus.

Current confirmed cases worldwide as of this morning surpassed 200K. It's doubling quickly now, every few days. Given limited testing in a lot of countries like ours, you can imagine what the real number likely is.

And, yes, before the flu vaccines, a lot more people died. The current 0.1% death rate is because of those vaccines and OTC meds that help with symptoms. For this one, we have neither in mass production yet and they're likely 18 months off.

That's the way life is
- paulr

Enraging - his "let them eat cake" moment

Only silver lining to famous and YOUNG and HEALTHY people being tested and coming back positive is that maybe the 20-29s will start listening more to the warnings and take more care.

Apparently Kevin Durant has it.

Hopefully, for these athletes, none of them experience the permanent lung scaring that seem to be a hallmark of the more serious cases.

Perhaps they wouldn’t be in danger of going bankrupt if (to be sure, like the rest of the listed companies) the airline companies hadn’t used over 90% of their free cash over the past 10 years buying back their own stock.

AA spent $12 billion on the program since 2010, UA put 96% of it’s free cash into its program, the airlines in total have spent $45 billion to buy back shares.

Isn’t that about what they’re looking for from the federal government?

(Numbers are from Bloomberg)
- StLBravesFan

Above my pay grade.

I just drive the bus.

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Not a doctor and not trying to slide away from hockey talk but either I am stupid or the statistics being pumped into our brains our a little off...

If you only do limited random testing and most of the tests are given to those with severe symptoms how can you calculate a death rate? Especially when doctors are saying 80% of the healthy population under 50 (or whatever number) will be asymptomatic?

No one knows how many people have it... I imagine it is already above 100k maybe even a lot higher in the US. The CDC estimated H1N1 to be around 60 million. You are seeing asymptomatic athletes get positive tests.

I get the need for social distancing and the very real risk of overwhelming the healthcare system but I keep hearing 1.5-3% mortality rate and all the news networks keep pumping out that number. When this all ends and the CDC estimates the numbers in a few years I bet we see a death rate much closer to the normal flu.

Also....wth did we all due before the flu shots? Just get the flu and die?
- bhawks2241

You don’t do only limited random sampling on people with symptoms - you do it on the whole population of the country / world - so you can get a better / good indication of the extent of infections, where, what populations are involved - anything the experts need to be able to rationally and logically plan the response - not the scattershot approach we have now (yesterday - schools stay open, today - shut them all down; today - limit groups, tomorrow - shelter in place). At this point I have no idea how much time is needed to do that - but this isn’t ending anytime soon.

Getting the flu and die - well, estimates are that 500million people were infected and 50 million people died in 1918.

& got Robert Quinn & Jimmy Graham. Lost Leonard Floyd. I'm conflicted over a lot of these names & prices that Pace paid for these guys ... even if there isn't a "salary cap" in football.
- I Am The Breadman

There is a salary cap in the NFL and it is even more convoluted than the NHL. With the advent of guaranteed monies, it does have some ramifications when cutting guys loose.


I think that it what you meant when you put the words salary cap in quotations