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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:26 PM ET
Just saying, there is a group of fans who were critical of those suggesting how detrimental it would be to the team "if" Canucks missed the playoffs, and missed again next year, which I don't think is an unreasonable scenario. Now those same people are saying what "if" here are compliance buy outs allowed...
- 1970vintage



Those same people have been wishing for a compliance buy out right back to when Loui signed the contract. This is not something that has come up in the last two weeks.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 16 @ 3:27 PM ET
I don't know how the league plans on sorting the shutdown or implications because of shutting down, but the above seems plausible.
- Makita


Yup seems the most logical way to have the least amount of interruption. You'll probably see others catch on to this and introduce it too.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 16 @ 3:32 PM ET
I prefer having the 2 WC teams play the next 2 teams in a best of three to determine who gets the WC spots then have a 3-5-5-7 SC playoff.
- DariusKnight


That would be best if they go ahead. The idea is to have as many games as they can to make up for lost revenue. Though believe the owners have business interruption insurance that would cover the regular season losses on wages paid and refunds to ticket purchasers.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:32 PM ET
Those same people have been wishing for a compliance buy out right back to when Loui signed the contract. This is not something that has come up in the last two weeks.
- VANTEL


And? The point is "what if" goes both ways. I think planning for no buy out is the prudent business decision...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:40 PM ET
And? The point is "what if" goes both ways. I think planning for no buy out is the prudent business decision...
- 1970vintage



Not to be a smart ass but me planning for a compliance buy out or not has no effect on the situation at all.

Saying I hope there is one buyout or more will have the same impact as you or anyone saying what if there is none.

My own personal feelings is I don't really care. Teams will figure out what to do once they get the numbers and we will go on calling each other idiots and blaming and gulping the Canucks.

I think it will be fun as hell if the cap is tightened.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 16 @ 3:44 PM ET
Those same people have been wishing for a compliance buy out right back to when Loui signed the contract. This is not something that has come up in the last two weeks.
- VANTEL


The Benning haters will lose a lot of ammo when, not if, JB moves out Sutter/Beagle/Rousel on trades this off season and next. As you know he will because he wants to fit in his NHL ready prospects as he said.

Then there will be shock when he gets rid of LE plus Sven contracts under NHL stimulus measures.

Plus, jaws will drop when JB signs TT, Tanev, Marky plus the RFA's. All to short term contracts at lower then projected pre-stoppage AAV.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
The Benning haters will lose a lot of ammo when, not if, JB moves out Sutter/Beagle/Rousel on trades this off season and next. As you know he will because he wants to fit in his NHL ready prospects as he said.

Then there will be shock when he gets rid of LE plus Sven contracts under NHL stimulus measures.

Plus, jaws will drop when JB signs TT, Tanev, Marky plus the RFA's. All to short term contracts at lower then projected pre-stoppage AAV.

- NuckUp


RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:51 PM ET
The Benning haters will lose a lot of ammo when, not if, JB moves out Sutter/Beagle/Rousel on trades this off season and next. As you know he will because he wants to fit in his NHL ready prospects as he said.

Then there will be shock when he gets rid of LE plus Sven contracts under NHL stimulus measures.

Plus, jaws will drop when JB signs TT, Tanev, Marky plus the RFA's. All to short term contracts at lower then projected pre-stoppage AAV.

- NuckUp

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Mar 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
The Benning haters will lose a lot of ammo when, not if, JB moves out Sutter/Beagle/Rousel on trades this off season and next. As you know he will because he wants to fit in his NHL ready prospects as he said.

Then there will be shock when he gets rid of LE plus Sven contracts under NHL stimulus measures.

Plus, jaws will drop when JB signs TT, Tanev, Marky plus the RFA's. All to short term contracts at lower then projected pre-stoppage AAV.

- NuckUp

You should probably take Benning's cack out of your mouth when you type
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:54 PM ET
You should probably take Benning's cack out of your mouth when you type
- LeftCoaster

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
And? The point is "what if" goes both ways. I think planning for no buy out is the prudent business decision...
- 1970vintage


The planning seems to have been made with the knowledge that the cap was going up by a significant amount pre-pause or stoppage.

Plus they knew there would be expiring contracts. Also, they were probably planning to get LE out to fit in the RFA's and pick one or two UFA's.

Now if there are compliance buyouts they probably can keep everyone they want. That's a bonus not a what if plan.

Though a nice what if would be canceling cap recapture penalties. As those type of contracts can't be done anymore so no sense in punishing those teams more in the wake of the pandemic shutdowns.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Mar 16 @ 4:00 PM ET
The planning seems to have been made with the knowledge that the cap was going up by a significant amount pre-pause or stoppage.

Plus they knew there would be expiring contracts. Also, they were probably planning to get LE out to fit in the RFA's and pick one or two UFA's.

Now if there are compliance buyouts they probably can keep everyone they want. That's a bonus not a what if plan.

- NuckUp

Huh?
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Mar 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
How's everybody doing?

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Please head over...

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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
You should probably take Benning's cack out of your mouth when you type
- LeftCoaster


Just because I'm not a hater doesn't mean the opposite. Wouldn't you like the Canucks to ice the best competitive team and keep building a contender.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Mar 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
Huh?
- RealityChecker


Keep up to reality will yeah. They planned on the cap going up not if there were compliance buyouts. Getting those just gives them more options.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Mar 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
Keep up to reality will yeah. They planned on the cap going up not if there were compliance buyouts. Getting those just gives them more options.
- NuckUp

you literally had an "if" scenario in one sentence and said it's not a "what if" plan in the next.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 16 @ 4:11 PM ET
The Benning haters will lose a lot of ammo when, not if, JB moves out Sutter/Beagle/Rousel on trades this off season and next. As you know he will because he wants to fit in his NHL ready prospects as he said.

Then there will be shock when he gets rid of LE plus Sven contracts under NHL stimulus measures.

Plus, jaws will drop when JB signs TT, Tanev, Marky plus the RFA's. All to short term contracts at lower then projected pre-stoppage AAV.

- NuckUp

Thanks for the comic relief.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 16 @ 4:45 PM ET
Shwap's idea of putting an asterisk beside the winner's name if the cup is awarded this season made me curious about different playoff formats over the course of the NHL's history. There's actually very little consistency and some very different arrangements.

Early on there were single game eliminations and as few as two games in the finals.

For some years in the forties, first and second place finishers during the regular season got a bye while the other 4 teams played a best of three. In the second round, the two top regular season teams played each other while the winners from the first round played the other semi-final. The winner of the top 2 regular season teams played the winner from the bottom 4 in the final.

After expansion and the increase in the number of teams making the playoffs, first rounds of 3 games were played from 1975 to 1979. For 1980 the first round increased to 5 games. The 7 game initial series we're now used to came into effect in 1987.

Lots of interesting historical info at this web site: https://www.hockey-reference.com

Realized I had completely forgotten about an entire NHL franchise.

New York Americans
Team Names: Brooklyn Americans, New York Americans
Seasons: 17 (1925-26 to 1941-42)
NHL Playoff Appearances: 5
NHL Championships: 0 (0 Stanley Cup)
Playoff Record: 6-11
Record (W-L-T-OTL): 255-402-127-0 (637 points)
All-time Goals Leader: Normie Himes, 107
All-time Points Leader: Normie Himes, 219
Most Goals, Season: Normie Himes (1929-30), 28
Most Points, Season: Normie Himes (1929-30), 50
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Mar 16 @ 5:09 PM ET
That would be best if they go ahead. The idea is to have as many games as they can to make up for lost revenue. Though believe the owners have business interruption insurance that would cover the regular season losses on wages paid and refunds to ticket purchasers.
- NuckUp

I think I heard that the insurance is void if it is upgraded to pandemic status which it is.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 16 @ 5:41 PM ET
The lesson here should be "don't be stupid", not "here's a get out of stupid free card"
- 1970vintage


I guess Benning should have planned for a pandemic instead of trying to get his team into the playoffs.
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