4-2 Canes now. 8 minutes left to play.
- Sublime55

That’s so awesome!!

Anyone watching this Phantoms game? Honestly, I know Frost is playing but doesn’t seem to be standing out at all.

That’s so awesome!!

Anyone watching this Phantoms game? Honestly, I know Frost is playing but doesn’t seem to be standing out at all.
- SuperSchennBros

Sounds like Frost is going through the usual trials as a first year pro. I know he’s put up points in the AHL and big club so I’m not too concerned.

Sounds like Frost is going through the usual trials as a first year pro. I know he’s put up points in the AHL and big club so I’m not too concerned.
- Sublime55

Issac Ratcliffe looks like a really nice find.

Yeah 6-2 Pens just giving up

Canes just beat the Pens 6-2. That helps our cause. Pens looked terrible...

Yeah 6-2 Pens just giving up
- wcorvette

Pitt outscored 11-4 this weekend by divisional opponents. Nice goal by Vorobyev by the way!

Frost just went to the lockeroom with an ubi

Frost just went to the lockeroom with an ubi
- Djapana

he bacc

Canes just beat the Pens 6-2. That helps our cause. Pens looked terrible...
- Thors-Hammer

Canes could be the 3 seed in Metro if this trend continue.

COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*

Total cases: 164
Total deaths: 11
States reporting cases: 19
United States/Population
327.2 million (2018)

That's right folks this is an epidemic the apocalypse end of the world a whopping 164 people out of 327 million. Relax.......

- Squirrelly Dan

Let me break it down for you, in practical terms, why we should not "relax".

The flu has not been with us forever. Its quite recent, estimates ranging from a hundred to a few hundred years old. In other words, there was once a time when the flu too had very low numbers, like Covid-19 today. We have not been able to contain it. On the one hand, governments/rulers in the past have lacked the ability to either test for the disease or enforce a quarantine like we do now. On the other hand, people did not congregate as much as they do today, nor could they travel as much, and they also now have much higher expectations of living a longer, healthier life.

So, lets say we cannot contain covid-19, and it does spread like the flu. A vaccine is extremely unlikely before summer of 2021, if that, and most vaccines have only partial success (current success rates are 50% or less for flu). Just extrapolate from current numbers then and see the numbers what would result from covid-19, even with a vaccine. To give you an idea, if as many are infected as the flu, many more people will die each year here than died in all of WW2.

Then, the question is, what is the primary vehicle for containing the disease?

It is fear. Fear makes people change their behavior, accept restrictions, and be vigilant. It is the willing/enforced isolation of people with the disease.

Iotw, it is not the fearful people who need to relax (though there is no point in taking things to extremes). It is the "aw shucks its no worse than the flu" crowd that needs to get an effing clue

Pitt outscored 11-4 this weekend by divisional opponents. Nice goal by Vorobyev by the way!
- Sublime55

I guess the pens blogger was wrong.

Let me break it down for you, in practical terms, why we should not "relax".

The flu has not been with us forever. Its quite recent, estimates ranging from a hundred to a few hundred years old. In other words, there was once a time when the flu too had very low numbers, like Covid-19 today. We have not been able to contain it. On the one hand, governments/rulers in the past have lacked the ability to either test for the disease or enforce a quarantine like we do now. On the other hand, people did not congregate as much as they do today, nor could they travel as much, and they also now have much higher expectations of living a longer, healthier life.

So, lets say we cannot contain covid-19, and it does spread like the flu. A vaccine is extremely unlikely before summer of 2021, if that, and most vaccines have only partial success (current success rates are 50% or less for flu). Just extrapolate from current numbers then and see the numbers what would result from covid-19, even with a vaccine. To give you an idea, if as many are infected as the flu, many more people will die each year here than died in all of WW2.

Then, the question is, what is the primary vehicle for containing the disease?

It is fear. Fear makes people change their behavior, accept restrictions, and be vigilant. It is the willing/enforced isolation of people with the disease.

Iotw, it is not the fearful people who need to relax (though there is no point in taking things to extremes). It is the "aw shucks its no worse than the flu" crowd that needs to get an effing clue
- PT21

All of the talk just makes me thirsty...especially in the evening

No conspiracies here.

The media is trying to hurt the economy in an election year by hyping this disease. Why would they do that you ask?

No one is that dumb that they don't know the answer to that question.
- MBFlyerfan

Is the Chinese government that imposed draconian quarantine measures, the Italian govt that has cordoned off its economic engine, the Japanese govt that closed all schools, and all these others also part of the conspiracy?

And speaking of conspiracies, why, 4 months after the disease appeared, have we managed to get only 5000 tests done? Where is the media outrage about that? Much smaller countries have done many times that. South Korea now tests 10,000 a day.

And oh, btw, a consequence of this is that the US has by far the highest death rate from the disease in the world. Who will pay the price for such implicit cases of manslaughter? Why is this not being debated? And is this also part of the media conspiracy?

All of the talk just makes me thirsty...especially in the evening
- Just5

Just make sure your drink is at least 60% proof, and if the virus is on your lips but not yet inside, it will die before it gets absorbed.

Just make sure your drink is at least 60% proof, and if the virus is on your lips but not yet inside, it will die before it gets absorbed.
- PT21

Edit: I meant 120 proof.

Is the Chinese government that imposed draconian quarantine measures, the Italian govt that has cordoned off its economic engine, the Japanese govt that closed all schools, and all these others also part of the conspiracy?

And speaking of conspiracies, why, 4 months after the disease appeared, have we managed to get only 5000 tests done? Where is the media outrage about that? Much smaller countries have done many times that. South Korea now tests 10,000 a day.

And oh, btw, a consequence of this is that the US has by far the highest death rate from the disease in the world. Who will pay the price for such implicit cases of manslaughter? Why is this not being debated? And is this also part of the media conspiracy?
- PT21

You have to be cautious about death rates. The lack of testing (until this week we were only testing those sick enough to get admitted) lowers the number of total infections found and artificially inflates the death rate.

You are right about testing. The US completely botched the testing and we are 5-6 weeks behind where we should be, hence containment and mitigation is now very problematic

You have to be cautious about death rates. The lack of testing (until this week we were only testing those sick enough to get admitted) lowers the number of total infections found and artificially inflates the death rate.


- Marc D

You are quite right. But there is a flip side to it. People who fall sick think it is the flu or something more benign and don't seek medical help until they are too sick. My guess is that the people being tested in the US are at a later stage of symptoms than comparable societies.

Also, those same people think they are safe to go to work, not self-quarantine etc. So the illness spreads and so do deaths.

Enough testing = early testing = less of the above phenomenon.

Canes just beat the Pens 6-2. That helps our cause. Pens looked terrible...
- Thors-Hammer

This might be premature, but the Flyers’ magic number to clinch home ice in the first round is now down to 12 wins (=24 pts). Practically speaking, if the Flyers went 10-4 in their last 14 games, the Penguins would have to go 13-1 to beat us out.

You are quite right. But there is a flip side to it. People who fall sick think it is the flu or something more benign and don't seek medical help until they are too sick. My guess is that the people being tested in the US are at a later stage of symptoms than comparable societies.

Also, those same people think they are safe to go to work, not self-quarantine etc. So the illness spreads and so do deaths.

Enough testing = early testing = less of the above phenomenon.
- PT21

To be more clear: say a patient goes to a doc here with mild symptoms (which may escalate later). Say 100 fever, cough. Has no obvious risk factors for covid, so doc advises rest, fluids, etc. etc.

Same dude goes to the NHS. Doc gives the same advice but also has the ability to do a precautionary covid-19 test.

Not having the latter ability will of course not help in preventing spread of disease.

This might be premature, but the Flyers’ magic number to clinch home ice in the first round is now down to 12 wins (=24 pts). Practically speaking, if the Flyers went 10-4 in their last 14 games, the Penguins would have to go 13-1 to beat us out.
- copelal

In conjunction with pts lost by pit or Wash

This might be premature, but the Flyers’ magic number to clinch home ice in the first round is now down to 12 wins (=24 pts). Practically speaking, if the Flyers went 10-4 in their last 14 games, the Penguins would have to go 13-1 to beat us out.
- copelal

12 wins needed (worst case possible) + 14 games remaining = UNPOSSIBLE!

So yeah, the other div leaders will need to do some losing (like Pitt today).

Since coronavirus will cancel life as we know it anyway:

Phantoms cough up 5-2 third period lead. Lose in SO.

Frost never returned for 3rd period.

Also lol at you bums laughing off the Coronavirus. I’m sure you know/care about someone over the age of 60, where that virus is really causing the most havoc. Not to mention the fact it’s much more easily transmitted from person to person. Please be smarter than this.
- hereticpride

Sorry late to the conversation, but this 👆

You don't have to come into direct contact with a carrier to be exposed. If droplets containing the virus are deposited on a surface, the virus can live for days on that surface.

Which is why it's not just the media, but the health experts, even those in the government (Dr. Anthony Fauci, head of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, for one), that are emphasizing to keeping your hands with frequent vigorous hand-washing, and to avoid touching your face (which is extremely hard to be disciplined about doing), thereby bringing any virus (COVID-19 or flu strains) into your mouth or nose.

If we utilize your level of knowledge in this process, I assume we will all die before you can change your stripes.
I'm not going to be political but this outbreak is designed to test EVERY safety net, safeguard and medical system. Since I care if YOU die, along with my G-kids, etc. I do support a more comprehensive approach to this sort of problem.

Now to hockey, I want to know what Hayes puts on his stick. Sometimes it appears that his 'touch' is so ephemeral, so delicate and GLUED to the rubber.
He could be a high priced hooker with that skill.

- Pompous

Let me break it down for you, in practical terms, why we should not "relax".

The flu has not been with us forever. Its quite recent, estimates ranging from a hundred to a few hundred years old. In other words, there was once a time when the flu too had very low numbers, like Covid-19 today. We have not been able to contain it. On the one hand, governments/rulers in the past have lacked the ability to either test for the disease or enforce a quarantine like we do now. On the other hand, people did not congregate as much as they do today, nor could they travel as much, and they also now have much higher expectations of living a longer, healthier life.

So, lets say we cannot contain covid-19, and it does spread like the flu. A vaccine is extremely unlikely before summer of 2021, if that, and most vaccines have only partial success (current success rates are 50% or less for flu). Just extrapolate from current numbers then and see the numbers what would result from covid-19, even with a vaccine. To give you an idea, if as many are infected as the flu, many more people will die each year here than died in all of WW2.

Then, the question is, what is the primary vehicle for containing the disease?

It is fear. Fear makes people change their behavior, accept restrictions, and be vigilant. It is the willing/enforced isolation of people with the disease.

Iotw, it is not the fearful people who need to relax (though there is no point in taking things to extremes). It is the "aw shucks its no worse than the flu" crowd that needs to get an effing clue
- PT21

Your last paragraph downplays the fact that the flu over the last decade has killed something on the average of 24,000 Americans per year and the little remembered Spanish Influenza Pandemic killed somewhere between 50-100 million worldwide just 100 years ago.

Sensible precautions need to be made for either, but the seasonal flu by the numbers is still more of a threat to public health and that’s a fact.