Goalies with the top 10 most games played from 16-17 to 19-20. Average sv% vs. this year.

Andersen 242 0.915 0.906
Hellebuyck 241 0.916 0.920
Bobrovsky 240 0.917 0.900
Price 233 0.914 0.910
Jones 226 0.906 0.898
Dubnyk 221 0.915 0.892
Holtby 221 0.911 0.898
Gibson 220 0.918 0.902
Vasilevskiy 217 0.919 0.915
Rinne 212 0.917 0.895


Interesting. only hellebuyck is outperforming his average. a lot of big drops.
- Tumbleweed

Past 5 years combined:

Leafs goals for per game: 5th
Andersen's SV%: 7th

Leafs goals against per game: 24th
Shots against per game: 28th

Obvious problem is obvious.

Therefore, the team that plays the best in front of their goalie, gives themselves the best chances of winning, correct?

Over the past 5 years, including this one, Andersen's tied for 7th in SV% (with Hellebuyck, Bobrovsky and Fleury), #1 in shots against, 4th in games played.

Over the past 5 years, including this one, the Leafs GA is 7th worst in the NHL.

Top 5 offense, top 10 goalie and a bottom 10 defense. The problem is obvious.
- JohnFergusonJr

Well no sh!t, glad we cracked that one.

It means that while individual goals are generally hard to blame on the goalie, the goalie is still expected to make saves. Which is why save percentage comes into the conversation (though obviously quality of chances comes into play in that conversation as well).

Bottom line, Anderson has not been as good this year. He has not made the saves he has made in the past.

Anderson needs to be better, and so does the team. Most people can see this.

- JohnFergusonJr

Another thing that doesn't change a fact is a funny GIF and it also doesn't fool anyone.

Goalies with the top 10 most games played from 16-17 to 19-20. Average sv% vs. this year.

Andersen 242 0.915 0.906
Hellebuyck 241 0.916 0.920
Bobrovsky 240 0.917 0.900
Price 233 0.914 0.910
Jones 226 0.906 0.898
Dubnyk 221 0.915 0.892
Holtby 221 0.911 0.898
Gibson 220 0.918 0.902
Vasilevskiy 217 0.919 0.915
Rinne 212 0.917 0.895


Interesting. only hellebuyck is outperforming his average. a lot of big drops.
- Tumbleweed

Career arcs starting to show in some of those cases, maybe with Freddy too. I love Freddy but I'm not sure at all about reupping him to a big number when the time comes.

Past 5 years combined:

Leafs goals for per game: 5th
Andersen's SV%: 7th

Leafs goals against per game: 24th
Shots against per game: 28th

Obvious problem is obvious.
- JohnFergusonJr

I definitely agree that something very obvious is going on here.

Actually what is REALLY obvious is that you used Andersen's Sv% rank in your previous 5 year numbers.

Then failed to post where he stands this year.



Hint... among goalies with 20 or more GP ... he is 37th. How well does that fit into your cool story bro.

30 or more games, he is 28th.

Well no sh!t, glad we cracked that one.

It means that while individual goals are generally hard to blame on the goalie, the goalie is still expected to make saves. Which is why save percentage comes into the conversation (though obviously quality of chances comes into play in that conversation as well).

Bottom line, Anderson has not been as good this year. He has not made the saves he has made in the past.

Anderson needs to be better, and so does the team. Most people can see this.
- Leafs43

When you watch the games you can see this, it's pretty easy.

Career arcs starting to show in some of those cases, maybe with Freddy too. I love Freddy but I'm not sure at all about reupping him to a big number when the time comes.
- Zezel

Surprised at Holtby, Gibson, Bobrovsky ... Bobrovsky only because last year against Tampa he was outstanding.

When you watch the games you can see this, it's pretty easy.
- Zezel

sooooooooo........... smooth or hairy?

When you watch the games you can see this, it's pretty easy.
- Zezel

I think the frustrating part of it, is that we know Andersen can be 'stellar'.

sooooooooo........... smooth or hairy?
- winsix

Smooth move

Surprised at Holtby, Gibson, Bobrovsky ... Bobrovsky only because last year against Tampa he was outstanding.
- Aetherial

Gibson is surprising a little but Anaheim is not a very good team. Holtby is an average goalie on a really good Capitals team and well, I can't explain what happened to Bobrovsky this year.

I think the frustrating part of it, is that we know Andersen can be 'stellar'.
- PatC80

There have been times, over the last couple years, where he has carried the team, no question.

I don't like the game 7 fails, and the inconsistency over all though.

I think the frustrating part of it, is that we know Andersen can be 'stellar'.
- PatC80

And it can change quick. Nylander is one of he most improved players in the NHL this year and he was being blamed more often than UG blames Taxes last season.

Past 5 years combined:

Leafs goals for per game: 5th
Andersen's SV%: 7th

Leafs goals against per game: 24th
Shots against per game: 28th
Andersen Sv% (goalies 30+ gp): 28th.

Obvious problem is obvious.
- JohnFergusonJr

I fixed your analysis, you don't have to thank me.

Well no sh!t, glad we cracked that one.

It means that while individual goals are generally hard to blame on the goalie, the goalie is still expected to make saves. Which is why save percentage comes into the conversation (though obviously quality of chances comes into play in that conversation as well).

Bottom line, Anderson has not been as good this year. He has not made the saves he has made in the past.

Anderson needs to be better, and so does the team. Most people can see this.
- Leafs43

False.

And it can change quick. Nylander is one of he most improved players in the NHL this year and he was being blamed more often than UG blames Taxes last season.
- winsix

I am hoping that Marner not being the superstar we expected this year (still damn good) is the effects of the new contract. It seems to take some guys a year to get past that.

There have been times, over the last couple years, where he has carried the team, no question.

I don't like the game 7 fails, and the inconsistency over all though.
- Aetherial

I agree on the game seven fails. I am pretty sure Freddy's next deal will not be with the Leafs. That extra year in Campbell's contract buys Leafs at least a year to find something better.

There have been times, over the last couple years, where he has carried the team, no question.

I don't like the game 7 fails, and the inconsistency over all though.
- Aetherial

That's fair, I don't blame both game 7 losses on him, last year he let in a couple of softies but overall the team wasn't prepared for that game. That was a coaching issue in my opinion.
I don't know if Andersen is just struggling and ina slump, or if he's on the downward trajectory of his career.

There have been times, over the last couple years, where he has carried the team, no question.

I don't like the game 7 fails, and the inconsistency over all though.
- Aetherial

Agreed. I've never quite been sold on Andersen being a clutch guy or upper echelon tender. He's prone to long, cold stretches where he is objectively terrible and can then go on some hot spells where he's lights out.

I fully admit that many great players can be inconsistent but Andersen's inconsistency is on another level.

I'd really like to see more of Campbell.

My Kool Aid tells me that this year is gonna be reverse Freddy, where he isn't great now, but he steals one or more Game 7s and is lights out in the playoffs. Future fact.

When you watch the games you can see this, it's pretty easy.
- Zezel

If you watch the games and don't know you're looking at.

I agree on the game seven fails. I am pretty sure Freddy's next deal will not be with the Leafs. That extra year in Campbell's contract buys Leafs at least a year to find something better.
- winsix

I think that is best, but I see it as a serious concern. Goaltending problems can sink an organization or an entire generation, ask Flyers fans

People just need to not female dog and moan so much. Did everyone for some reason think the Leafs would run the table the rest of the year. Its a 50/50 crap shoot every night this time of year. Everything is tight from top to bottom and only a few teams are having any success the last 10 or so, Boston, philly, Aves, Oils and Vegas. Only bout 5 or 6 teams out of the whole league.
Everyone else is more close to playing .500 hockey or worse. Leafs5-5-0, Caps4-5-1, Bolts5-5-0, Pens4-6-0, Islanders2-6-2, Stars5-2-3, Flames5-4-1, Columbus2-4-2, Canes4-4-2, Peg5-4-1 and the powerhouse Panthers3-6-1....

That's fair, I don't blame both game 7 losses on him, last year he let in a couple of softies but overall the team wasn't prepared for that game. That was a coaching issue in my opinion.
I don't know if Andersen is just struggling and ina slump, or if he's on the downward trajectory of his career.
- PatC80

See, I think letting in a couple softies in a game 7, can make a whole team look bad.

... except that I also know that the Leafs were/are very young without nearly the playoff experience of the Bruins AND the Bruins were awesome in the playoffs last year.

I agree on the game seven fails. I am pretty sure Freddy's next deal will not be with the Leafs. That extra year in Campbell's contract buys Leafs at least a year to find something better.
- winsix