Vintsy!
- LordHumungous

Lol

That’s exactly who I was thinking of

I was wrong, they currently have 30 million, I'm talking this years outlook for the next season.

Canucks have 5 million, according to cap friendly.

https://www.capfriendly.com/
- LeftCoaster

of which 22.5mil is IR and 3.5 is buried so really it's 5mil. Maybe To sign an NCAA guy in time for the playoffs? that's gonna make a big difference...

and how does it change the fact they'll have less $ next year to sign more contracts than us?

You're right, that's for this season, not next, but still, that's an incredible situation to be in to add, if they wanted to, to contend.
- LeftCoaster

That's only based on their LTIR numbers and being below the cap for most of the year. They actually have about 5 mill in space, but since it's the end of the season that number gets inflated a huge amount.

This isn’t actually accurate. He’s already in the minors, with just over $1m in Cap savings. Buying him out only saves the team about $500k I think, but they give it right back the following season with an $800k second year.

Still, it’s a positive for next season.
- 1970vintage

You obviously understand math.👍

No, the savings are somewhere around what I posted.
His cap hit currently is 2.29, as he is in minors, subtract the capfriendly number from that and you get somewhere around the number I posted.
Obviously math isn't your strong point.😁
- Reubenkincade

Ugh, no, its you who has it wrong.....his salary is $3.2 mill not 2.2. The Canucks save $1 mill with him in the minors this year......know your CBA....

Thus its a TOTAL savings of about $1.6 against the cap - it maybe $600k less than this year but in TOTAL its $1.6.

Whats to stop them from burying someone else in the minors saving them the same $1 mill that they are saving on SB this year....

What does another teams poopty management have to do with the Canucks? This is the worst excuse ever. “I know you are but what am I”?
- 1970vintage

Some people use the word "excuse" others use "reality"

Which are you Pee-Wee?

What does another teams poopty management have to do with the Canucks? This is the worst excuse ever. “I know you are but what am I”?
- 1970vintage

The point is, there is this narrative that JB is the worst GM in the league, cant do anything right yada yada...

Reality is, that its a common problem that is occurring throughout the league - the grass is not greener with a different GM, so shut your fucking piehole and enjoy your team. Its been a fun season and next year promises to be even better.

It cant all be about tanking or Stanley Cup...as if there was no middle ground. Only 1 team wins, everyone else loses. And as Edmonton has proved, tanking doesnt get you a cup.....

The point is, there is this narrative that JB is the worst GM in the league, cant do anything right yada yada...

Reality is, that its a common problem that is occurring throughout the league - the grass is not greener with a different GM, so shut your fucking piehole and enjoy your team. Its been a fun season and next year promises to be even better.

It cant all be about tanking or Stanley Cup...as if there was no middle ground. Only 1 team wins, everyone else loses. And as Edmonton has proved, tanking doesnt get you a cup.....
- chompsey

all fair points

of which 22.5mil is IR and 3.5 is buried so really it's 5mil. Maybe To sign an NCAA guy in time for the playoffs? that's gonna make a big difference...

and how does it change the fact they'll have less $ next year to sign more contracts than us?
- Brooks_Light

They have 21 million next year and all their star players signed, we have 18 million with two of our three best players on ELC's and no starting goaltender. I just think think they're in a better position than we are if we need to add for the playoffs next year and then re-sign said player. We have cap issues, which we shouldn't for a team on the rise.

The point is, there is this narrative that JB is the worst GM in the league, cant do anything right yada yada...

Reality is, that its a common problem that is occurring throughout the league - the grass is not greener with a different GM, so shut your fucking piehole and enjoy your team. Its been a fun season and next year promises to be even better.

It cant all be about tanking or Stanley Cup...as if there was no middle ground. Only 1 team wins, everyone else loses. And as Edmonton has proved, tanking doesnt get you a cup.....
- chompsey

Thats a pretty big promise

Thats a pretty big promise
- WhiteLie

I lie a lot....

Could games being cancelled due to a bad flu epidemic be on the horizon?

Ugh, no, its you who has it wrong.....his salary is $3.2 mill not 2.2. The Canucks save $1 mill with him in the minors this year......know your CBA....

Thus its a TOTAL savings of about $1.6 against the cap - it maybe $600k less than this year but in TOTAL its $1.6.

Whats to stop them from burying someone else in the minors saving them the same $1 mill that they are saving on SB this year....
- chompsey

Wrong.

Wrong.
- Reubenkincade

Theres nothing wrong with what I said, not a single word. Because its over your head, does not make it wrong.

Theres nothing wrong with what I said, not a single word. Because its over your head, does not make it wrong.
- chompsey

BURIED (1 - $2,291,666) TERMS POS STATUS AGE 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23 2023-24 2024-25 2025-26
Baertschi, Sven LW Minor 27 $2,291,666 $2,291,666
UFA

TOTAL $2,291,666 $2,291,666


According to Cap Friendly Sven Baertschi costs the Canucks $2,291,666 dollars of cap space per year in the minors?

Sven Baertschi buyout according to cap friendly...

Cap Hit Calculations

SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (Vancouver Canucks VAN)
2020-21 $2,400,000 $3,366,666 $0 $800,000 $800,000 $1,600,000 $1,766,666
2021-22 $0 $0 $0 $800,000 $800,000 -$800,000 $800,000
TOTAL $2,400,000 $3,366,666 $0 $1,600,000 $1,600,000 $800,000 $2,566,666

Theres nothing wrong with what I said, not a single word. Because its over your head, does not make it wrong.
- chompsey

So if a salary, after being sent to minors is 2.29 against the cap, and a buyout is a cap hit of 1.76, it somehow becomes a cap savings of 1.6 million....okay.

Do you remember doing math problems in grade 2?

Could games being cancelled due to a bad flu epidemic be on the horizon?
- Bettmanhatesus

Hope so. If playoffs are cancelled all teams would fail to qualify and we wouldn’t be losers

They have 21 million next year and all their star players signed, we have 18 million with two of our three best players on ELC's and no starting goaltender. I just think think they're in a better position than we are if we need to add for the playoffs next year and then re-sign said player. We have cap issues, which we shouldn't for a team on the rise.
- LeftCoaster

Jb has a plan we just don't know exactly, we can speculate though,that's what fans do, I think we will move some vets and inject some youth into those spots.

So if a salary, after being sent to minors is 2.29 against the cap, and a buyout is a cap hit of 1.76, it somehow becomes a cap savings of 1.6 million....okay.

Do you remember do math problems in grade 2?
- Reubenkincade

Ugh, you understand - thats ok.......Im not going to argue it since you dont get what Im saying....

Hope so. If playoffs are cancelled all teams would fail to qualify and we wouldn’t be losers
- CanuckDon

I think they need to be behind the wildcard to play with some urgency, that's what they need to do, I saw some good sign's of it in Columbus for 55 minutes.

BURIED (1 - $2,291,666) TERMS POS STATUS AGE 2019-20 2020-21 2021-22 2022-23 2023-24 2024-25 2025-26
Baertschi, Sven LW Minor 27 $2,291,666 $2,291,666
UFA

TOTAL $2,291,666 $2,291,666


According to Cap Friendly Sven Baertschi costs the Canucks $2,291,666 dollars of cap space per year in the minors?
- LeftCoaster

So, my premise is, the Canucks could bury another salary, say Jordie Benn and save that same $1 mill OR even Loui Erickson while they save $1.6 mill on SB's salary.

If you factor these 2 conditions, than you save SB's buyout, $1.6 mill next year. Its a $600k savings on his current situation but a total of $1.6 mill if you satisfy those 2 conditions. Which I see playing out.

My apologies for not being clear.....

Ugh, you understand - thats ok.......Im not going to argue it since you dont get what Im saying....
- chompsey

I totally get what you are saying, you dont understand math, dont worry, I'll be around most of the day to help you out.

Edit, I have now read your above post and understand what you are saying, much better.

So, my premise is, the Canucks could bury another salary, say Jordie Benn and save that same $1 mill OR even Loui Erickson while they save $1.6 mill on SB's salary.

If you factor these 2 conditions, than you save SB's buyout, $1.6 mill next year. Its a $600k savings on his current situation but a total of $1.6 mill if you satisfy those 2 conditions. Which I see playing out.

My apologies for not being clear.....
- chompsey

Don’t apologize he is a fat (frank)

I think they need to be behind the wildcard to play with some urgency, that's what they need to do, I saw some good sign's of it in Columbus for 55 minutes.
- Bettmanhatesus

They were fantastic for 90% of the game. They win the next one or odds will be looking pretty slim. I’m starting to focus on the draft again