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2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
Avery was actually pretty good skilled player. All teams and the league hated him bc of his antics. Never dirty just a pain. He should have showcased his skill more.
- nyrangers2


His first tour in NY was really good. He was cooked the second time around. I think being Sean Avery was a hinderance to him at the end of the day. He could have been much better than he was.

Sort of reminds me of another guy that played on both of our teams: Dan Carcillo. If that guy ever would have gotten out of the way of himself, he would have been a useful player. His run for us in the 2014 playoffs pre ref bump was really good.
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Feb 28 @ 2:02 PM ET
His first tour in NY was really good. He was cooked the second time around. I think being Sean Avery was a hinderance to him at the end of the day. He could have been much better than he was.

Sort of reminds me of another guy that played on both of our teams: Dan Carcillo. If that guy ever would have gotten out of the way of himself, he would have been a useful player. His run for us in the 2014 playoffs pre ref bump was really good.

- 2sticks1puck


I loved Carcillo

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 28 @ 2:06 PM ET

When the playoffs push started after the all star break, the Rangers weren’t in the fight, and the competition for spots is crowded enough. Flyers really need to give them a shove and slam the door for being late to the party. Don’t need to hear any of that fashionably late nonsense.

Let’s Go flyErs!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 28 @ 2:08 PM ET
Lou Nolan has been the arena announcer since they were at the Spectrum. Whom are you thinking of? The dancing PR guy who was a Soul or Wings announcer? Shawn was fired immediately.
- bodiva88


Shawny was not let go until after the season. He was removed as an in-arena host but stayed on through the rest of last season.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 2:09 PM ET
When the playoffs push started after the all star break, the Rangers weren’t in the fight, and the competition for spots is crowded enough. Flyers really need to give them a shove and slam the door for being late to the party. Don’t need to hear any of that fashionably late nonsense.

Let’s Go flyErs!

- NC Flyers Fan


I honestly think no matter what the Rangers make it unless they really tank. Other teams around us have it real bad.

Objectively I'm not sure it would happen, but I want us to sweep both games. Get us to 1 point behind you guys, then the fun really begins.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 2:12 PM ET
I loved Carcillo
- Wingdestroyer


When he wasn't being a dummy, he was an easy player to root for that obvious skill. I'm not saying this as a troll, but that GWG in the playoffs against you, showed a glimpse of what he could do.

It's just too bad that instead of focusing on being a good player who could also be a pest, he just wanted to be a pest. He could have been Wilson before Wilson, he had the ability, just not the brains.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 2:16 PM ET













- jmatchett383

This is fabulous!!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 28 @ 2:18 PM ET
I honestly think no matter what the Rangers make it unless they really tank. Other teams around us have it real bad.

Objectively I'm not sure it would happen, but I want us to sweep both games. Get us to 1 point behind you guys, then the fun really begins.

- 2sticks1puck


Yeah well, I want the Flyers to win both, and I’m glad the first one is in Philly.

This approach is truly where the most fun is...for me.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
This is fabulous!!
- SuperSchennBros



I still cant get over how brutal that crosscheck was to Sandstroms neck. Imagine the repercussions today for something like that. And he got 15 games back then!
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Feb 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
His first tour in NY was really good. He was cooked the second time around. I think being Sean Avery was a hinderance to him at the end of the day. He could have been much better than he was.

Sort of reminds me of another guy that played on both of our teams: Dan Carcillo. If that guy ever would have gotten out of the way of himself, he would have been a useful player. His run for us in the 2014 playoffs pre ref bump was really good.

- 2sticks1puck


He was a significant player in our run to the Finals in 2010...he scored the OT goal in game 3 of first round series against NJ, I believe. He’d give you those flashes but in the end, would revert to guy the league knew him by. Old habits die hard I guess.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
I still cant get over how brutal that crosscheck was to Sandstroms neck. Imagine the repercussions today for something like that. And he got 15 games back then!
- MBFlyerfan


Yeah, he'd be gone for awhile. Crazy to think dirty plays like that were almost the norm for a long time. I still think about how many games Mess would have gotten for his check on Modano (best known for the medical guys dropping the stretcher)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVyRVDEoQ9c
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
No, he was a +10. This is really simple to look up

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=146214

- jmatchett383

Yes amazing. Last year minus twenty. Hence the question form.

And just looked it up. It was simmer that was minus around that the year I was thinking about.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 2:54 PM ET
I still cant get over how brutal that crosscheck was to Sandstroms neck. Imagine the repercussions today for something like that. And he got 15 games back then!
- MBFlyerfan


I don’t so much want anyone to take anyone else’s head off as much as I do want it to become at least a man’s game again.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 28 @ 3:01 PM ET
Man I forgot how viscous , dangerous and bad that Brown cross check from the gifs montage was.

To me it's up there with Bertuzzi on Moore, Mcsorley on Brashear.
Just terrible.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
Man I forgot how viscous , dangerous and bad that Brown cross check from the gifs montage was.

To me it's up there with Bertuzzi on Moore, Mcsorley on Brashear.
Just terrible.

- opeth_pa



Jesse boulerice. Idiot. Not you him.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
Great song
- 2sticks1puck

hell yeah
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Feb 28 @ 3:29 PM ET
I believe Dancin Shawny is now Gritty.
- bmoreflyer


is he even allowed in the building? i know first hand that he's a total c0ck.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 28 @ 3:44 PM ET
wish tonight's game was in NYC and Sunday's in Philly. For whatever reason. Have seen the movie of the Flyers playing away at MSG on national TV before.
- wilsonecho91


I'll be there in NYC on Sunday. My printer is taking me to the game and then out to dinner as a retirement going away. They usually play pretty well in NYC when I'm there.
GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 3:44 PM ET
Man I forgot how viscous , dangerous and bad that Brown cross check from the gifs montage was.

To me it's up there with Bertuzzi on Moore, Mcsorley on Brashear.
Just terrible.

- opeth_pa


Just rewatched the sequence.

While I felt bad for Sandstrom, I would have felt worse if he had not been such a cheap shot artist. If it had been Dale Hunter, I wouldn't have felt bad at all.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 28 @ 3:46 PM ET
Shawny was not let go until after the season. He was removed as an in-arena host but stayed on through the rest of last season.
- bmeltzer


Sorry Bill. Since he became invisible I thought he was gone.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 28 @ 3:49 PM ET
Not disputing the viciousness, but, it wasn't as premeditated as those others.

IIRC, the larger sequence had Sandstrom really cheapshotting Howe (and possibly digging at Hextall - I'm fairly certain Sandstromwas getting penalty). Howe was really pissed. I hadn't really noticed before, but he deliberately speared Sandstrom as he was getting to his feet. You can also tell that Hextall probably wanted a piece of him too. Lindsey Carson wanted the power play.

While I felt bad for Sandstrom, I would have felt worse if he had not been such a cheap shot artist. If it had been Dale Hunter, I wouldn't have felt bad at all.

- GeorgeBailey



Yup, that all makes sense and obviously watching it in slow motion enhances the perception of the violence in it but man..that neck whip is rough to watch.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 3:50 PM ET
Not disputing the viciousness, but, it wasn't as premeditated as those others.

IIRC, the larger sequence had Sandstrom really cheapshotting Howe (and possibly digging at Hextall - I'm fairly certain Sandstromwas getting penalty). Howe was really pissed. I hadn't really noticed before, but he deliberately speared Sandstrom as he was getting to his feet. You can also tell that Hextall probably wanted a piece of him too. Lindsey Carson wanted the power play.

While I felt bad for Sandstrom, I would have felt worse if he had not been such a cheap shot artist. If it had been Dale Hunter, I wouldn't have felt bad at all.

- GeorgeBailey


As much as I hate the Isles, I don't think I've ever been as disgusted as his cheap shot on Turgeon. I get that other shots have been worse, but to me that hit was the most gutless thing I can ever remember. I was only a tween when it happened, and even at that young age, I knew what a dirty cheap hit that was.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 28 @ 4:02 PM ET
As much as I hate the Isles, I don't think I've ever been as disgusted as his cheap shot on Turgeon. I get that other shots have been worse, but to me that hit was the most gutless thing I can ever remember. I was only a tween when it happened, and even at that young age, I knew what a dirty cheap hit that was.
- 2sticks1puck



The Zdeno Chara hit on Max Pacioretty is one I'd like to unsee.

The hit by Aaron Rome on Nathan Horton is another one.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 28 @ 4:37 PM ET
Hatcher on Roenick....Twice!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 28 @ 4:40 PM ET
The Zdeno Chara hit on Max Pacioretty is one I'd like to unsee.

The hit by Aaron Rome on Nathan Horton is another one.

- Doc_Sarcasm


The Campbell hit on Umberger was brutal.
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