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GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 28 @ 9:58 AM ET
To follow up on yesterday:


Old way I suppose?

- flyerfan48


Correct.

Wrong way:
https://youtu.be/N7Cv9ugKFNY

Right way:
https://youtu.be/hRx-ugTfmjE

Wrong way:
https://youtu.be/Ydt6EDeG5uY

A subtle point is that when you do it the old fashioned way, you increase the tempo with each verse so that it seems to build urgency.

Sorry for posting links, but the YouTube app appears to no longer have the embed option.

And:
Let's Go Flyers!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 9:59 AM ET
Bill, I’m not a big fan of Ghost. Sure, I love what he can do in the offensive zone, but cringe when he’s on defense. All-in-all, I think that limits him to third line pairing and PP which I’m fine with. But, What is the story on him? Healthy scratch? He’s back from his conditioning at the Phantoms. Is he 100%?. They’ve got to get him back into playing some games. I would think playing against the Rags would be a good test?
- leon neon


When a team is playing as well as the Flyers are, any coach is going to be hesitant to tweak the lineup and put in a player who has been rehabbing an injury. When he's healthy and playing well, his defensive issues are overblown.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 28 @ 10:01 AM ET
Ghost must still be hurt. You cannot lose your place in the lineup due to injury.
- Just5




Nice troll job.

That being said. He has lost his job because he is an offensive defenseman who doesn't supply offense and plays poor defense.

Basically useless.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 28 @ 10:03 AM ET
When a team is playing as well as the Flyers are, any coach is going to be hesitant to tweak the lineup and put in a player who has been rehabbing an injury. When he's healthy and playing well, his defensive issues are overblown.
- MJL




If he were supplying any kind of offense I would agree. But since he is most definitely not, his below average defense becomes much more pronounced.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:05 AM ET
To follow up on yesterday:


Correct.

Wrong way:
https://youtu.be/N7Cv9ugKFNY

Right way:
https://youtu.be/hRx-ugTfmjE

Wrong way:
https://youtu.be/Ydt6EDeG5uY

A subtle point is that when you do it the old fashioned way, you increase the tempo with each verse so that it seems to build urgency.

Sorry for posting links, but the YouTube app appears to no longer have the embed option.

And:
Let's Go Flyers!

- GeorgeBailey


They should make it a requirement for any fan purchasing a ticket and attending a home game to have to go to a class on the proper way of doing the "Let's go Flyers" chant or they will be denied entry. Perhaps some kind of verbal test give in performing the chant. Then they can be green listed for a period of time. They should also have spotter in the rink to make sure everyone is doing it correctly with random testing of fans. Anyone caught performing the chant with the wrong cadence should be immediately removed.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 28 @ 10:06 AM ET
They should make it a requirement for any fan purchasing a ticket and attending a home game to have to go to a class on the proper way of doing the "Let's go Flyers" chant or they will be denied entry. Perhaps some kind of verbal test give in performing the chant. Then they can be green listed for a period of time. They should also have spotter in the rink to make sure everyone is doing it correctly with random testing of fans. Anyone caught performing the chant with the wrong cadence should be immediately removed.
- MJL


This is your best idea (yet).
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:06 AM ET
If he were supplying any kind of offense I would agree. But since he is most definitely not, his below average defense becomes much more pronounced.
- MBFlyerfan



Before his injury, while not putting up many points, his transition game in moving the puck and beating pressure was very good. That in itself leads to offense.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 28 @ 10:09 AM ET
They should make it a requirement for any fan purchasing a ticket and attending a home game to have to go to a class on the proper way of doing the "Let's go Flyers" chant or they will be denied entry. Perhaps some kind of verbal test give in performing the chant. Then they can be green listed for a period of time. They should also have spotter in the rink to make sure everyone is doing it correctly with random testing of fans. Anyone caught performing the chant with the wrong cadence should be immediately removed.
- MJL


ivory tower, yada yada yada
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 28 @ 10:13 AM ET
Before his injury, while not putting up many points, his transition game in moving the puck and beating pressure was very good. That in itself leads to offense.
- MJL



I look at the bottom line. In 41 games he has 5 goals and 7 assists. 4 goals and 2 assists at even.

In his last good year when he had 13 and 52 his shooting % was 5.9%. So far this year his % is 6.8% which is actually the second highest of his career.

That tells me he just isn't getting shots.
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Feb 28 @ 10:20 AM ET
As a proud American, I can honestly say I hate the Rangers more than any other team in sports.

However, I actually like most of the players from that 1994 Oil Rags team. For some reason, I was able to cheer for Messier, Leetch, and Richter. Heck, I even cheered for Tikkanen, Amonte, Graves, and Kovalev.

But (frank) Jeff Bekeboom.

- jmatchett383




Turn in your Flyers fan card. I have never and will NEVER cheer for the Rangers.....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
Turn in your Flyers fan card. I have never and will NEVER cheer for the Rangers.....

- Lawless18


Well, I was 10 at the time. That's my only defense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:22 AM ET
I look at the bottom line. In 41 games he has 5 goals and 7 assists. 4 goals and 2 assists at even.

In his last good year when he had 13 and 52 his shooting % was 5.9%. So far this year his % is 6.8% which is actually the second highest of his career.

That tells me he just isn't getting shots.

- MBFlyerfan


He's still at a point where he needs to improve his confidence offensively. It's taking far longer than hoped for and I understand anyone who is ready to give up on the player but I'm not there yet. Gostisbehere's puck skills and transition play makes the team better and can be a key to winning. He needs to make sure his knee is fully rehabbed so he has confidence in his mobility.
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Feb 28 @ 10:25 AM ET
Well, I was 10 at the time. That's my only defense.
- jmatchett383


okay, well in that case I blame your parents.
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Feb 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
No, I was more afraid of us having to play Ray Emery for 3 games. Mason and Lundqvist played about the same that series, I'd even say Mason outplayed him. The Rags were just a better team. Hell, in two of the game we won (2 and 6), he played pretty badly. I'm not saying he was bad then, but he didn't seem unbeatable either as he once did.

Same with Brodeur, I never feared him after 2004 even though he beat us in 2012.

- jmatchett383


It's like when the flyers have a lead and then they have to play defense, they never really do it and the no lead is insurmountable

2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 10:44 AM ET
It's like when the flyers have a lead and then they have to play defense, they never really do it and the no lead is insurmountable


- blueshirts_fan


When I look at that chart, I'm reminded of "those who live in glass houses........."
blueshirts_fan
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 01.28.2012

Feb 28 @ 10:46 AM ET
When I look at that chart, I'm reminded of "those who live in glass houses........."
- 2sticks1puck



It's just funny
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
LETS GO
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Feb 28 @ 10:49 AM ET
tough game. we really need the top 6 to produce tonight. hopefully we get the usual solid effort from the bottom 6 guys. we need to see G, Jake,Coots, Hayes and TK really up on their skates. if we win the first game in regulation, the weekend is safe.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
It's just funny
- blueshirts_fan


I know. Out of all the things though we could troll the Flyers today about, "bad defensive zone coverage" seems to be the one that would be the most likely to bite us.

We will just focus on getting the puck past Carter Fart tonight and call it a night.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:53 AM ET
I know. Out of all the things though we could troll the Flyers today about, "bad defensive zone coverage" seems to be the one that would be the most likely to bite us.

We will just focus on getting the puck past Carter Fart tonight and call it a night.

- 2sticks1puck

ok king nothing
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 28 @ 10:53 AM ET
It's like when the flyers have a lead and then they have to play defense, they never really do it and the no lead is insurmountable


- blueshirts_fan


Oh, the Flyers defense and goaltending of the past 30 years is littered with tales of woe. I'm just saying that Lundqvist didn't seem as unbeatable after 2010.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 10:55 AM ET
ok king nothing
- 2Real


Great song
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:55 AM ET
Well, I was 10 at the time. That's my only defense.
- jmatchett383

I’d still try you as an adult for this crime.....

I can’t lie, I have a soft spot for the Islanders. The Coliseum is also 25 minutes away from me.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 28 @ 10:57 AM ET
I know. Out of all the things though we could troll the Flyers today about, "bad defensive zone coverage" seems to be the one that would be the most likely to bite us.

We will just focus on getting the puck past Carter Fart tonight and call it a night.

- 2sticks1puck

What’s up bud? Looking forward to a fun game tonight.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Feb 28 @ 11:00 AM ET
What’s up bud? Looking forward to a fun game tonight.
- Flyers1218


It should be a fun game. I guess for the Rangers it's been like this for a few weeks, but it has a playoff feel too it.
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