TMI TMI!!!!
- Dozzer

that's how I roll!

well, that and an L

that's how I roll!

well, that and an L
- Lucas.Neilson

We really need to get together in person man

ceci
spezza
malgin
barrie

9 mil ish there I think
- Lucas.Neilson

Trading Johnnsson would likely be a move they could make to free up the extra room.

Now, Bobrovsky is going to go on an absolute heater.. Florida is winning 10 straight... Starting Saturday
- PatC80

Any goalie metrics are really hard to discern because they are so subjective.

Bill Comeau has taken some raw data that tries to separate a goalie's performance from that of his team to create a net zero defense bias for the goalie's performance (this uses data from moneypuck's (they stole my name in a far more clever way, I should sue) algorithms to try and present the information.

It doesn't paint Andersen in a positive light; it also doesn't paint Bobrovsy in a good way either.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/NHLGoaliePerformance/xGDashboard

If you look at the tab 'xSave% Dashboard' and then set it to 5on5, both Andersen and Bobrovsky are performing equally below their expected level based on the league average.

ceci
spezza
malgin
barrie

9 mil ish there I think
- Lucas.Neilson

Okay. So 3 of those guys have to be replaced by at least league mins, that ads up to about 2.25. So 6.75 left. Not sure that's enough for DP let alone another top 4.

Please tell me the undies are more than just a jock strap
- Dozzer

I think it's simular to this but has a Leafs logo on it.

I think it's simular to this but has a Leafs logo on it.

- zazzle

I wouldn’t want to see this guy wearing this on a windy day

I think it's simular to this but has a Leafs logo on it.

- zazzle

That's more of a doggy door

That's more of a doggy door
- TheMussel

You’re not wrong

Any goalie metrics are really hard to discern because they are so subjective.

Bill Comeau has taken some raw data that tries to separate a goalie's performance from that of his team to create a net zero defense bias for the goalie's performance (this uses data from moneypuck's (they stole my name in a far more clever way, I should sue) algorithms to try and present the information.

It doesn't paint Andersen in a positive light; it also doesn't paint Bobrovsy in a good way either.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/NHLGoaliePerformance/xGDashboard

If you look at the tab 'xSave% Dashboard' and then set it to 5on5, both Andersen and Bobrovsky are performing equally below their expected level based on the league average.
- Monkeypunk

if you expanded it out, he has hutch > andersen

his model needs work. a lot of it.

holy poop Frank Seravalli is only 31 years old

Any goalie metrics are really hard to discern because they are so subjective.

Bill Comeau has taken some raw data that tries to separate a goalie's performance from that of his team to create a net zero defense bias for the goalie's performance (this uses data from moneypuck's (they stole my name in a far more clever way, I should sue) algorithms to try and present the information.

It doesn't paint Andersen in a positive light; it also doesn't paint Bobrovsy in a good way either.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/bill.comeau#!/vizhome/NHLGoaliePerformance/xGDashboard

If you look at the tab 'xSave% Dashboard' and then set it to 5on5, both Andersen and Bobrovsky are performing equally below their expected level based on the league average.
- Monkeypunk

I'm happy we don't have Mike Smith

holy poop Frank Seravalli is only 31 years old
- BINGO!

Really?

Good for him looking so experienced.

holy poop Frank Seravalli is only 31 years old
- BINGO!

What! There is no way

What! There is no way
- aminnes

1988

holy poop Frank Seravalli is only 31 years old
- BINGO!

So, is this guy

What! There is no way
- aminnes

Born 1988 yeah

if you expanded it out, he has hutch > andersen

his model needs work. a lot of it.
- Tumbleweed

Sort of. Here's the thing that's very simple and we all know it: Hutchinson is not a good goalie. His rebound control is terrible - possibly the worst in the league without hyperbole and his glove his well below average.

That said, when Hutchinson started, he faced more HD chances than anyone, and the quality of those chances was preposterous. In some cases it was self-imposed because he was booting out uncontrolled rebounds to the opposition. For the most part, though, it was because the team played like absolute crap in front of him.

So by that token his expected save percentage would have already been low. This is a measure of how much lower than your expected save percentage are you.

It's not saying Hutch is better than Andersen. It's saying that the shots Hutch was facing were probably harder, so he's partially excused in his expected save percentage - which is sort of true.

holy poop Frank Seravalli is only 31 years old
- BINGO!

He sounds like he's 11 and looks like he's 51, so it all averages out I suppose.

What! There is no way
- aminnes

I'm like a month younger than the guy. Pretty sure I look at least 15 years younger though.

Unreal.

Saravelli at 40.

Really?

Good for him looking so experienced.
- Scabeh

I have some gay buddies who describe strippers that way

I'm happy we don't have Mike Smith

- PatC80

I've always been not a fan. He makes some amazing saves. He's this weird tall, lanky thing . . . he's great with the puck out of his net. But his five hole is the size of a person. When you get him moving side to side, you could literally shoot Denis Malgin in his five hole.

That sounds terrible. But accurate.

Sort of. Here's the thing that's very simple and we all know it: Hutchinson is not a good goalie. His rebound control is terrible - possibly the worst in the league without hyperbole and his glove his well below average.

That said, when Hutchinson started, he faced more HD chances than anyone, and the quality of those chances was preposterous. In some cases it was self-imposed because he was booting out uncontrolled rebounds to the opposition. For the most part, though, it was because the team played like absolute crap in front of him.

So by that token his expected save percentage would have already been low. This is a measure of how much lower than your expected save percentage are you.

It's not saying Hutch is better than Andersen. It's saying that the shots Hutch was facing were probably harder, so he's partially excused in his expected save percentage - which is sort of true.
- Monkeypunk

That makes sense.. If you don't expect Hutch to make any save, like at all, his expected save % has to be pretty decent.

That makes sense.. If you don't expect Hutch to make any save, like at all, his expected save % has to be pretty decent.
- PatC80

The real question is how does Hutch compare to Ayres.