So you don't like Colliton, one reason (I would guess) being that he has had very little experience as coach, but are OK with two ex-players who have NO experience at the positions your recommending them for?
- StLBravesFan

It would be refreshing though to have a couple of guys who express some emotion, unlike JC and Bowman. It would make me feel better on my sofa if our coach gave officials the business when we are being jobbed by them. Imagine a GM at press conferences not speaking in monotone when our team is playing like crap.

Marc Crawford is the assistant coach. He won a cup with the LA Kings.
- catrisc

marc crawford brought in to replace JC IF he gets fired? somewhat, and I say somewhat, like Q coming in when savvy was HC. Now JC is a better HC than savvy ever was but same sort of idea.

I did a Google search of jay zwaski and Bowman and nothing came up. Can you provide a link? It's unlikely the team would give him an extension and not have a press conference.
- paulr

No link just heard on the radio when driving home during an interview with Jay.

I heard the same thing fwiw
- NamedSources

So bowman has one year left. Bite the bullet Rockey and fire bowman.

So you don't like Colliton, one reason (I would guess) being that he has had very little experience as coach, but are OK with two ex-players who have NO experience at the positions your recommending them for?
- StLBravesFan

Crawford won a cup with LA. He's an experienced coach that knows what he's in for.

Chelios and Roenick have extremely high compete levels and are accomplished hockey players. IF Dennis Savard got a shot to coach so should these guys.

Savard was good player but not a good leader. Chelios and Roenick are born alpha leaders. Let's gooooooooo!

Here you go, Francis.

"That said, I wouldn’t get my hopes up for Bowman losing his job. Bowman signed a two-year contract extension last June, according to a report from Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet. When asked back then about the possible extension, Bowman refused to comment, and the story went away. My recent conversations with sources have indicated what Friedman reported previously."

https://670thescore.radio...rade-deadline-stan-bowman
- mohel

FWIW, I have not been able to find anything beyond this from Friedman:

In his “31 Thoughts” column, Friedman writes that there’s a rumor about Bowman receiving a contract extension but when asked about it this past weekend at the NHL draft the Chicago GM “wouldn’t confirm or deny” it.

While he may vey well have been extended, this is a far cry of it being a done deal. As another poster just said, there is no reason to not announce it if it was done.

It would be refreshing though to have a couple of guys who express some emotion, unlike JC and Bowman. It would make me feel better on my sofa if our coach gave officials the business when we are being jobbed by them. Imagine a GM at press conferences not speaking in monotone when our team is playing like crap.
- 67hawks

Would Boudreau be a good replacement?

They dont need leaders behind the bench. They need coaches.

IMO, they put 3 guys back there that the FO can 'control' to an extent. Marc Crawford looks like an elf on the shelf standing there with the look on his face. I wonder how much say he has versus hes here as a "token" experienced coach, so they can say he they have one there. But with his kid in the organization already, I think he was brought here just for that.

If Crawford is in on some of these decisions and agrees with them, I dont want him around either

The absolute best I think the Hawks could put behind the bench that wont happen -

HC Laviolette - as I said in previous posts, I would hire him now as an 'advisor' and let him sit upstairs and watch. His shelf life for teams is about 5yrs and hes always good for 1 run. Seems like it would coincidence with what 19/88 have left as far as their 'best twilight years'

Offensive Assistant Coach - Adam Oates. Has HC and AC experience at the NHL level. As an assistant, has excelled at PP and developing young players (worked with Stamkos, as an example, early in his career)

Defensive Assistant Coach - Chelios. I'm not a fan of the 'he played so he can coach' mantra. But he does have some limited assistant coach experience with team USA and the Wings. He may be able to help with guys like Keith and Seabrook in adjusting their game as they get older, as he had to to play to 67yrs old. He's a workaholic and no nonsense. But I'm not sure he'd want to be behind a bench full time.

But none of those 3 would deal with front office marketing meddling. Not sure the FO would want that either, so probably not a marriage

But those 3 are all sitting at home and would be a staff, IMO, that would have this team as is closer to playoffs than the lottery

It would be refreshing though to have a couple of guys who express some emotion, unlike JC and Bowman. It would make me feel better on my sofa if our coach gave officials the business when we are being jobbed by them. Imagine a GM at press conferences not speaking in monotone when our team is playing like crap.
- 67hawks

YES. Someone said it best yesterday - Colliton has a good theoretical hockey mind. Which doesn't mean squat if you can't apply it to the ice. He seems like a paralysis by analysis type guy.

Not the sign of a good leader...

Something to remember regarding seeing a ton of the kids for the Rock the rest of this year:

But the Hawks are allowed just two more non-emergency call-ups this year (after spending two Monday to make Lucas Carlsson and Matthew Highmore eligible for the AHL playoffs) and probably won’t use them on goaltenders.

They dont need leaders behind the bench. They need coaches.

IMO, they put 3 guys back there that the FO can 'control' to an extent. Marc Crawford looks like an elf on the shelf standing there with the look on his face. I wonder how much say he has versus hes here as a "token" experienced coach, so they can say he they have one there. But with his kid in the organization already, I think he was brought here just for that.

If Crawford is in on some of these decisions and agrees with them, I dont want him around either

The absolute best I think the Hawks could put behind the bench that wont happen -

HC Laviolette - as I said in previous posts, I would hire him now as an 'advisor' and let him sit upstairs and watch. His shelf life for teams is about 5yrs and hes always good for 1 run. Seems like it would coincidence with what 19/88 have left as far as their 'best twilight years'

Offensive Assistant Coach - Adam Oates. Has HC and AC experience at the NHL level. As an assistant, has excelled at PP and developing young players (worked with Stamkos, as an example, early in his career)

Defensive Assistant Coach - Chelios. I'm not a fan of the 'he played so he can coach' mantra. But he does have some limited assistant coach experience with team USA and the Wings. He may be able to help with guys like Keith and Seabrook in adjusting their game as they get older, as he had to to play to 67yrs old. He's a workaholic and no nonsense. But I'm not sure he'd want to be behind a bench full time.

But none of those 3 would deal with front office marketing meddling. Not sure the FO would want that either, so probably not a marriage

But those 3 are all sitting at home and would be a staff, IMO, that would have this team as is closer to playoffs than the lottery
- PatShart

You're right - we're probably just wasting our time bashing Colliton. When in reality, he knows he's Bowman's puppet and is willing to play along. sick and twisted and sad.

I think we all agree that the Hawks are rebuilding or retooling. So why all the caterwauling about the coach? Would Lavy or Gallant make them Cup contenders? I think not. Would they get more wins? Probably. What good would that do? None. But it would get the team a lower draft position.
- mohel

Gallant's shelf life is two years. He would be Doug Collins in the 90's before Phil Jackson took over.

I'm not saying it works in all cases but I think it does for the Hawks as their roster stands that there are 3 pairs of offensive stars that should play together - Kane/Dach, Cat/Strome, and Toews/Kubalik. The third guy on those lines could be interchanged from Saad, Caggiula, Nylander, and ??? I agree with TC - let Kane and Dach find some chemistry and work together over the summer so a bigger better Dach centers Kane and maybe a new winger acquired in the draft.

They dont need leaders behind the bench. They need coaches.

IMO, they put 3 guys back there that the FO can 'control' to an extent. Marc Crawford looks like an elf on the shelf standing there with the look on his face. I wonder how much say he has versus hes here as a "token" experienced coach, so they can say he they have one there. But with his kid in the organization already, I think he was brought here just for that.

If Crawford is in on some of these decisions and agrees with them, I dont want him around either

The absolute best I think the Hawks could put behind the bench that wont happen -

HC Laviolette - as I said in previous posts, I would hire him now as an 'advisor' and let him sit upstairs and watch. His shelf life for teams is about 5yrs and hes always good for 1 run. Seems like it would coincidence with what 19/88 have left as far as their 'best twilight years'

Offensive Assistant Coach - Adam Oates. Has HC and AC experience at the NHL level. As an assistant, has excelled at PP and developing young players (worked with Stamkos, as an example, early in his career)

Defensive Assistant Coach - Chelios. I'm not a fan of the 'he played so he can coach' mantra. But he does have some limited assistant coach experience with team USA and the Wings. He may be able to help with guys like Keith and Seabrook in adjusting their game as they get older, as he had to to play to 67yrs old. He's a workaholic and no nonsense. But I'm not sure he'd want to be behind a bench full time.

But none of those 3 would deal with front office marketing meddling. Not sure the FO would want that either, so probably not a marriage

But those 3 are all sitting at home and would be a staff, IMO, that would have this team as is closer to playoffs than the lottery
- PatShart

Do Chelios and Oates have any interest in coaching in the NHL? Oates currently runs his own player development company.

Let me see if I understand this. You don't like Mittell (2 L's BTW) or Brookbank because they may not be qualified and you then suggest Chris Chelios who's FO experience consisted of getting Ken Holland's coffee in Detroit for a couple of years and Jeremy Roenick who has zero experience as a head coach or assistant coach?

Oh boy.
- Rota's Rooter

Savard would be better than Roenick.

Do Chelios and Oates have any interest in coaching in the NHL? Oates currently runs his own player development company.
- Chunk

Those are very good questions that I do not know.

Oates...if he is still in a teaching capacity and has taken several head coaching jobs in the past, I would think maybe. However, I have zero idea if he has any connection with Laviolette, who would/should be able to have who he likes next to him on the bench.

I was just giving a 'dream team' scenario of available coaches who I think can help this team

It would be refreshing though to have a couple of guys who express some emotion, unlike JC and Bowman. It would make me feel better on my sofa if our coach gave officials the business when we are being jobbed by them. Imagine a GM at press conferences not speaking in monotone when our team is playing like crap.
- 67hawks

Ditka!

Those are very good questions that I do not know.

Oates...if he is still in a teaching capacity and has taken several head coaching jobs in the past, I would think maybe. However, I have zero idea if he has any connection with Laviolette, who would/should be able to have who he likes next to him on the bench.

I was just giving a 'dream team' scenario of available coaches who I think can help this team
- PatShart

Gotcha. It's the same thing with people talking about the Hunters coming to the Hawks. Do they even want to, and if so, would they want to come to the Hawks (who they have no affiliation with).

Ugh. Well at least Carlsson is back in:

Crawford starts tonight for Blackhawks at Lightning (6pm CT).

Carlsson in, Seeler out. Rest of lineup the same.

Also Stamkos is out.

Gotcha. It's the same thing with people talking about the Hunters coming to the Hawks. Do they even want to, and if so, would they want to come to the Hawks (who they have no affiliation with).
- Chunk

If stan were to "leave" - I would think it would be to a president role, but not fired

They would be more likely to do that, and name Norm McIver the GM than go outside (guess, but seems to be the MO of the front office)

I can see that.

I really like Highmore as a bottom 6 guys. Ever since I watched him in Rockford, I always thought, "that's a guy I would want on my line" because the guy is relentless and hunts pucks down like a mofo.

To be honest, I think he replaces Caggiula next year as that ball of energy (although I wouldn't be opposed with both of them on the roster).
- Tyler Cameron

Can see that happening as you and 67 alluded to. Some of that could also depend on what's up with Shaw and whether they see him playing again next season.

I'm not saying it works in all cases but I think it does for the Hawks as their roster stands that there are 3 pairs of offensive stars that should play together - Kane/Dach, Cat/Strome, and Toews/Kubalik. The third guy on those lines could be interchanged from Saad, Caggiula, Nylander, and ??? I agree with TC - let Kane and Dach find some chemistry and work together over the summer so a bigger better Dach centers Kane and maybe a new winger acquired in the draft.
- EbonyRaptor

I see 1.5 stars in those top 6, no wonder we missed the playoffs.

I see 1.5 stars in those top 6, no wonder we missed the playoffs.
- rpeters01

Your definition of "star"?

FWIW, I have not been able to find anything beyond this from Friedman:

In his “31 Thoughts” column, Friedman writes that there’s a rumor about Bowman receiving a contract extension but when asked about it this past weekend at the NHL draft the Chicago GM “wouldn’t confirm or deny” it.

While he may vey well have been extended, this is a far cry of it being a done deal. As another poster just said, there is no reason to not announce it if it was done.
- Chunk

IF true, doesn’t the fact that the team has not announced this and Stan can’t or won’t discuss it tell us that they are aware about how the fan base generally views Stan? After this TDL, if they are monitoring social media (they should), it will be crystal clear. why would they hang onto him just because of a new contract. They fired Q in the middle of his. bet the cost of unrenewed season ticket packages will be more costly.

I see 1.5 stars in those top 6, no wonder we missed the playoffs.
- rpeters01

Yes, theres is nothing to be impressed about in a top 6 when you have Toews and Kane, a 22yr old Debrincat with 85g in 227gms, a 24yr old Kubilak with 26g in his first 61gms in the NHL, 18yr old Dach, and Saad at 27 who was on pace for 30g (.372 gpg) if not injured this year.

Add Strome, 22yrs old, playing out of position all year and had a bad injury for a hockey player (especially slow one like him)...still averaging .62ppg.

I think that's a little better than only 1.5 top players, but just my opinion