I think there were times that mean Gene Okerlund wanted pile drive a few of those wrestlers
- dmnted

Nah, he was a pencil neck geek.

Why stop now then? Just unload everyone. Throw in the towel.
- gravyface

Nah, just the ones who aren't part of the solution.

Look into CBD.

Are they going to make you play a violin while they tinker with your thinker?
- JohnFergusonJr

I think you meant thc

i've started to look a commission as a % of equity.

makes you think staying where you are is a good option.
- Tumbleweed

it really does

Nah. Just the ones who aren't part of the solution.
- JohnFergusonJr

Not a single GM in our position would've traded Barrie at the deadline without getting another NHL RHD back immediately.

I think there were times that mean Gene Okerlund wanted pile drive a few of those wrestlers
- dmnted

I once heard randy savage once tested positive for blood in his cocaine system

I once heard randy savage once tested positive for blood in his cocaine system
- Dozzer

they're going to fight dirty to protect their market
- Tumbleweed

Already started. Began crying about the stress test keeping people out of the market so it was lowered recently.

Stupid housing market incoming....

Why stop now then? Just unload everyone. Throw in the towel.
- gravyface

Ya. Move out anyone not needed long term. Move the UFAs and create a flexible situation for the offseason. Maybe even slip into 21st place and keep the first. Instead they are limping to the finish with a cap strapped offseason with few picks. Not a recipe for improving the team.

Not a single GM in our position would've traded Barrie at the deadline without getting another NHL RHD back immediately.
- gravyface

And again, when the Leafs are eliminated from the playoffs (if they make it), they'll lose another asset for nothing.

Gardiner last year, Barrie this year, plus something else and maybe they'd have enough to get a long term solution to their 2nd pair RHD problem.

I don't give a (frank) what other GMs would have done. I want to see THIS GM do something that other GMs aren't doing and gain an advantage because of it.

Ya. Move out anyone not needed long term. Move the UFAs and create a flexible situation for the offseason. Maybe even slip into 21st place and keep the first. Instead they are limping to the finish with a cap strapped offseason with few picks. Not a recipe for improving the team.
- aminnes

If UFAs are walking, doesnt that give them cap space?

Other than a first and a 3rd, how do they have "few picks"?

And again, when the Leafs are eliminated from the playoffs (if they make it), they'll lose another asset for nothing.

Gardiner last year, Barrie this year, plus something else and maybe they'd have enough to get a long term solution to their 2nd pair RHD problem.

I don't give a (frank) what other GMs would have done. I want to see THIS GM do something that other GMs aren't doing and gain an advantage because of it.
- JohnFergusonJr

He retained salary to gain a 5th round pick. Sounds like he did something no one else did and took a pick away from another team. Sounds like he got an advantage to me.

I once heard randy savage once tested positive for blood in his cocaine system
- Dozzer

He retained salary to gain a 5th round pick. Sounds like he did something no one else did and took a pick away from another team. Sounds like he got an advantage to me.
- Aaron_85

Yes and that 5th round pick is going to win the Leafs the Cup in 2030.

- JohnFergusonJr

I (frank)ing love the macho man

And again, when the Leafs are eliminated from the playoffs (if they make it), they'll lose another asset for nothing.

Gardiner last year, Barrie this year, plus something else and maybe they'd have enough to get a long term solution to their 2nd pair RHD problem.

I don't give a (frank) what other GMs would have done. I want to see THIS GM do something that other GMs aren't doing and gain an advantage because of it.
- JohnFergusonJr

they'll be in cap hell if they don't acquire ltir players as horton and clarkson are gone.
their goes marner salary.

Ya. Move out anyone not needed long term. Move the UFAs and create a flexible situation for the offseason. Maybe even slip into 21st place and keep the first. Instead they are limping to the finish with a cap strapped offseason with few picks. Not a recipe for improving the team.
- aminnes

Totally. Surrender to the finish line.

And again, when the Leafs are eliminated from the playoffs (if they make it), they'll lose another asset for nothing.

Gardiner last year, Barrie this year, plus something else and maybe they'd have enough to get a long term solution to their 2nd pair RHD problem.

I don't give a (frank) what other GMs would have done. I want to see THIS GM do something that other GMs aren't doing and gain an advantage because of it.
- JohnFergusonJr

Yup, and that's the cost of doing business. You're an NHL GM and you're throwing in the towel on the season when still in a playoff spot. Cool. I'd love to hear how that went down in your player-only meeting on Tuesday.

Totally. Surrender to the finish line.
- gravyface

Yeah, going head first into a war you can't win worked out great for the Japanese.

Know when you're beat and live to fight another day? Nah. Kamikaze!

Yeah, going head first into a war you can't win worked out great for the Japanese.

Know when you're beat and live to fight another day? Nah. Kamikaze!
- JohnFergusonJr

Because this is exactly the same thing.

Yup, and that's the cost of doing business. You're an NHL GM and you're throwing in the towel on the season when still in a playoff spot. Cool. I'd love to hear how that went down in your player-only meeting on Tuesday.
- gravyface

The players threw the towel in with their repeated poop performances.

Player meeting? Easy. You guys stunk, next year, don't stink so much.

The players threw the towel in with their repeated poop performances.

Player meeting? Easy. You guys stunk, next year, don't stink so much.
- JohnFergusonJr

That's not how it works.

If UFAs are walking, doesnt that give them cap space?

Other than a first and a 3rd, how do they have "few picks"?
- Aaron_85

They’ve traded away several picks and don’t have many now. UFAs waking in their case brings them back to compliance cap wise it doesn’t give them any flexibility to make the team better. Since they are walking anyway would have been better to use them to re stock the cupboards to be able to make moves in the offseason.

Because this is exactly the same thing.
- gravyface

You're the one constantly harping on the "surrender" tag-line.

Blowing the team apart and literally trading away young guys for draft picks would be surrender. Moving Barrie is acknowledging that he made a bad trade and he's recovering his assets to better position himself for the future. There's a subtle difference if you put in the effort to see it.

Totally. Surrender to the finish line.
- gravyface

This group surrendered a long time ago. Winning last night doesn’t change that. I’ve been on the cut bait train for months.