He hasn't performed all that well this year but he's got size, decent/good skating.... I think he can be an effective player in the right setting.
- Scabeh

He makes 5.25 until 2023-24, this isnt some coup for Carolina. He just isnt that good.

What I dont get is then they used that cap space for Ceci
- Archaic

No they didn’t.

What I dont get is then they used that cap space for Ceci
- Archaic

Ugh, ya it sucks.
But its only for 1 year....then we have 4.5 in cap space. As oppose to having to still pay Z for 4 more years.

Not sure why Toronto doesn't just trade Marner for a quality RD. Or even two for what he's worth. The One-Two punch of Mathews and Tavares plus the quality wingers they already have are all the offense they need. You give the goaltending that defense support they need and this team would be fearsome.

Ugh, ya it sucks.
But its only for 1 year....then we have 4.5 in cap space. As oppose to having to still pay Z for 4 more years.
- Fakepartofme

Sure, or they could have walked from Ceci, and kept Marleau, I dunno. Lou screwed up with that 3rd year.

Ugh, ya it sucks.
But its only for 1 year....then we have 4.5 in cap space. As oppose to having to still pay Z for 4 more years.
- Fakepartofme

This

Not sure why Toronto doesn't just trade Marner for a quality RD. Or even two for what he's worth. The One-Two punch of Mathews and Tavares plus the quality wingers they already have are all the offense they need. You give the goaltending that defense support they need and this team would be fearsome.
- TDBSenatoR

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Not sure why Toronto doesn't just trade Marner for a quality RD. Or even two for what he's worth. The One-Two punch of Mathews and Tavares plus the quality wingers they already have are all the offense they need. You give the goaltending that defense support they need and this team would be fearsome.
- TDBSenatoR

That may occur.
But the leafs havent had a winger of Marner's skill and hockey IQ is so very long.
If things go off the rails, it will be either marner or willie to go IMO.
If they want to do a shake up.
Hopefully that doesnt occur

He makes 5.25 until 2023-24, this isnt some coup for Carolina. He just isnt that good.
- Archaic

I'm not saying it's a steal for Carolina. They paid a good price to get him.

But will he end up helping them on defense? I'm pretty sure he will, yeah.

That may occur.
But the leafs havent had a winger of Marner's skill and hockey IQ is so very long.
If things go off the rails, it will be either marner or willie to go IMO.
- Fakepartofme

No chance they trade Marner. Theyd trade JT before that IMO. Local kid, young, and a play driver.

Not sure why Toronto doesn't just trade Marner for a quality RD. Or even two for what he's worth. The One-Two punch of Mathews and Tavares plus the quality wingers they already have are all the offense they need. You give the goaltending that defense support they need and this team would be fearsome.
- TDBSenatoR

I love how no one ever mentions who these mysterious DMen are we can trade Nylander or Marner for.

What team, other than ones who's GM is Peter Chiarelli trades a 22 year-old who had 94 points last year and on a pace for 96 this season?

Name the DMen.

No chance they trade Marner. Theyd trade JT before that IMO. Local kid, young, and a play driver.
- Archaic

JT has a NTC


It’s either Marner or Nylander.

I'm not saying it's a steal for Carolina. They paid a good price to get him.

But will he end up helping them on defense? I'm pretty sure he will, yeah.
- Scabeh

Sure, but so would a similar player for a lesser cost, or even a rental until they get back Hamilton/Pesce. Seems like an overpay to me, but I guess its better then adding Pageau(1st/2nd) then paying him 5M/6 years.

Sure, or they could have walked from Ceci, and kept Marleau, I dunno. Lou screwed up with that 3rd year.
- Archaic

If we kept Lou our 4th line would be making 12+ per. Dude is horrible at managing the cap.

No chance they trade Marner. Theyd trade JT before that IMO. Local kid, young, and a play driver.
- Archaic

I think JT has a full no move though, he would have to agree to being traded.

JT has a NTC


It’s either Marner or Nylander.
- DrunkSkunk

You are correct, I forgot about that. I think my point was they arnet trading Marner. Thats pretty obvious.

I think my point was they arnet trading Marner. Thats pretty obvious.
- Archaic

Why not?

Why not?
- DrunkSkunk

Its called common sense.

All summer we'll hear about a big trade yet the big 4 will return next year.

No chance they trade Marner. Theyd trade JT before that IMO. Local kid, young, and a play driver.
- Archaic

Dunno.
I hope its neither.
I cant see them trading JT at this point or even in the summer.
He's staying.

You are correct, I forgot about that. I think my point was they arnet trading Marner. Thats pretty obvious.
- Archaic

Matthews and JT won't be traded... Nylander is by all accounts living up to his contract now.
As bad as it may be, Marner may be the one traded.

Leafs are fine for the playoffs I believe. I have said for weeks, they ONLY have to edge out Florida....and Florida always seems to fall short in March and early April. But, looking at round 1 vs Tampa or Boston. Don't give them much of a chance. Anything CAN happen, but both Boston and Tampa are much better built than Toronto, especially for a playoff series. I think Leafs get in by 3-4 points....then out in 6.

Matthews and JT won't be traded... Nylander is by all accounts living up to his contract now.
As bad as it may be, Marner may be the one traded.
- PatC80

Nylander is playing above his cap hit. Marner can go.

I love how no one ever mentions who these mysterious DMen are we can trade Nylander or Marner for.

What team, other than ones who's GM is Peter Chiarelli trades a 22 year-old who had 94 points last year and on a pace for 96 this season?

Name the DMen.
- RogerRoeper

For nylander and Marner, you'll see some Dmen be made available.

Its called common sense.
- Archaic

I think if this season goes completely off the rails then anything can happen.

Dubas' press conference effectively put this season on the players.. They need a good response tonight.