cburgess
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 10.31.2011
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problem for MTL is now all their players are all over the place in age groups because the idiot bergevin refused to do a proper rebuild, what makes the "Core" of MTL?
hard hard times are ahead for MTL fans, it is not looking good. - Athrin
They can patch it together to stay mediocre. That's all they want. |
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Karine
Hains
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Lévis, QC Joined: 10.27.2018
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Meaningless games? Habs received a bunch of picks for players that weren't coming back. Tartar, and especially Petry are solid guys who are signed for next season. Not UFA's. What did Bergevin do wrong today? Keeping Kovy and others in the loop is a sign of respect for what they have provided for the team. I don't see how players looking to sign in Montreal in the future would be discouraged by hearing this. I see other GM's throwing around first rounders like they're nothing. Very pleased our GM made smart hockey moves - Hardbalz
The problem wasnt the moves he made but the ones he didn’t do and the fact that he doesn’t see that is plan is flawed...it’s not his fault it’s injuries or the fact that drafting is hard. It gets old, very old
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well i did. - kicksave856
Looked kinda pink to be honest |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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Meaningless games? Habs received a bunch of picks for players that weren't coming back. Tartar, and especially Petry are solid guys who are signed for next season. Not UFA's. What did Bergevin do wrong today? Keeping Kovy and others in the loop is a sign of respect for what they have provided for the team. I don't see how players looking to sign in Montreal in the future would be discouraged by hearing this. I see other GM's throwing around first rounders like they're nothing. Very pleased our GM made smart hockey moves - Hardbalz
MB did nothing wrong today regarding trades. he did what we all expected.
things got complicated when he faced the media afterwards, expecially in regards to draft and development issues.
he should stop comparing himself with the worst teams and start comparing himself with the best ones.
saying you need luck to succeed at the draft is ridiculous, not when you take a 15 year time frame.
Habs have 14 picks for the upcoming draft. when you need twice as much darts as others to hit the bullseye, it's because you (frank)ing suck. |
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Bergevin did what he's always done....whiffed. an embarrassment. Really terrible....if he thinks this core can win a cup hes absolutely delusional. Domi and Drouin aren't gonna make it happen. Sorry. |
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cburgess
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 10.31.2011
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I would expect Gallagher to have been extended by then and depending on how the young centres develop maybe Danault as well...
Thanks for the positive comments guys - Karine Hains
if everything goes to plan, I think in 3 years, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki will be the top 2 centres. Having Danault on a decent deal to be the 3rd line centre would be ideal. Gallagher should be extended and be named captain when Weber hangs them up. I think their bigger problem going forward is their defence. |
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cburgess
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 10.31.2011
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Bergevin did what he's always done....whiffed. an embarrassment. Really terrible....if he thinks this core can win a cup hes absolutely delusional. Domi and Drouin aren't gonna make it happen. Sorry. - Hockey Pucker
Domi and drouin would be decent 1st/2nd line wingers. they are never going to be the top dog like they think they can be |
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Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne? Joined: 03.16.2015
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problem for MTL is now all their players are all over the place in age groups because the idiot bergevin refused to do a proper rebuild, what makes the "Core" of MTL?
hard hard times are ahead for MTL fans, it is not looking good. - Athrin
Gallagher-Price-Weber |
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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option. Joined: 09.29.2005
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Looked kinda pink to be honest - Takemedrunkimhome
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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I don’t know what the flyers are going to do with all this wool |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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The problem wasnt the moves he made but the ones he didn’t do and the fact that he doesn’t see that is plan is flawed...it’s not his fault it’s injuries or the fact that drafting is hard. It gets old, very old - Karine Hains
It's easy to criticize the moves he didn't make without actually knowing what was offered |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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if everything goes to plan, I think in 3 years, Kotkaniemi and Suzuki will be the top 2 centres. Having Danault on a decent deal to be the 3rd line centre would be ideal. Gallagher should be extended and be named captain when Weber hangs them up. I think their bigger problem going forward is their defence. - cburgess
Absolutely... a F or 2 need to be sacrificed to build a D for when all the young forwards hit their prime |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Domi and drouin would be decent 1st/2nd line wingers. they are never going to be the top dog like they think they can be - cburgess
Drouin shouldn't be part of the plan moving forward regardless, Domi needs to realize he's gonna play LW if he wants to stay on this team and he's gonna have to mature a bit.... Poehling will be a LW, top 6 or bottom 6 still remains to be seen I guess |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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i don't know what's more depressing... that he wanted to re-sign Nick Cousins in February or that Nick Cousins wasn't interested |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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i don't know what's more depressing... that he wanted to re-sign Nick Cousins in February or that Nick Cousins wasn't interested - DoubleDown
Either way, be glad it didn't happen |
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Pie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: taking the low road Joined: 10.14.2006
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Either way, be glad it didn't happen - obie
(frank) Cousins into the obscurity he deserves |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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(frank) Cousins into the obscurity he deserves - Pie
Opened up spots for some kids next year is what he did.... he's gonna package a F with some picks and get a D at some point in the offseason, let's just hope that defenseman is good and under 25 |
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Pie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: taking the low road Joined: 10.14.2006
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Also worth mentioning is the fact that he wasn't ready to trade Kovalchuk to a team where he wouldn't like to go. He felt he owed him to trade him to a place that would make him happy. Saying that about a player that was with his team for just 22 games is just ridiculous. Perhaps he believes that by giving him a shot at winning the cup with the Capitals this season, he increases his chances of signing Kovy this summer but should he really think like that. I know, he did trade Plekanec and then signed him back in the summer but there's a huge difference between a career Hab and a player that has been here for less than 2 months and says that he loves it. Can we really take everything that Kovalchuk says at face value? I'm really not sure. Remember, Radulov loved it here as well.
I disagree with this, maybe Bergevin didn't realize the callous nature he dealt with Markov and Radulov would injure an important talent pipeline. Bergevin strikes me as arrogant, verging on ignorant. Habs have a history going back to Trechiak that was ruined by Bergevin, maybe he's trying to make it right. He's just not competent at this level. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Also worth mentioning is the fact that he wasn't ready to trade Kovalchuk to a team where he wouldn't like to go. He felt he owed him to trade him to a place that would make him happy. Saying that about a player that was with his team for just 22 games is just ridiculous. Perhaps he believes that by giving him a shot at winning the cup with the Capitals this season, he increases his chances of signing Kovy this summer but should he really think like that. I know, he did trade Plekanec and then signed him back in the summer but there's a huge difference between a career Hab and a player that has been here for less than 2 months and says that he loves it. Can we really take everything that Kovalchuk says at face value? I'm really not sure. Remember, Radulov loved it here as well.
I disagree with this, maybe Bergevin didn't realize the callous nature he dealt with Markov and Radulov would injure an important talent pipeline. Bergevin strikes me as arrogant, verging on ignorant. Habs have a history going back to Trechiak that was ruined by Bergevin, maybe he's trying to make it right. He's just not competent at this level. - Pie
I think it was about Bergy holding up his end of the deal, Kovalchuck made good on his... a 2nd would have been better but it would have been nothing had Kovalchuck not performed the way he did, I have no problem with Bergy keeping his word
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stinger67
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: QC Joined: 07.03.2008
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MB did nothing wrong today regarding trades. he did what we all expected.
things got complicated when he faced the media afterwards, expecially in regards to draft and development issues.
he should stop comparing himself with the worst teams and start comparing himself with the best ones.
saying you need luck to succeed at the draft is ridiculous, not when you take a 15 year time frame.
Habs have 14 picks for the upcoming draft. when you need twice as much darts as others to hit the bullseye, it's because you (frank)ing suck. - fidopro
Yeah, not his brightest moment. He wasn't going to throw his staff under the bus during a presser, but that was a weak defense.
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stinger67
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: QC Joined: 07.03.2008
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Also worth mentioning is the fact that he wasn't ready to trade Kovalchuk to a team where he wouldn't like to go. He felt he owed him to trade him to a place that would make him happy. Saying that about a player that was with his team for just 22 games is just ridiculous. Perhaps he believes that by giving him a shot at winning the cup with the Capitals this season, he increases his chances of signing Kovy this summer but should he really think like that. I know, he did trade Plekanec and then signed him back in the summer but there's a huge difference between a career Hab and a player that has been here for less than 2 months and says that he loves it. Can we really take everything that Kovalchuk says at face value? I'm really not sure. Remember, Radulov loved it here as well.
I disagree with this, maybe Bergevin didn't realize the callous nature he dealt with Markov and Radulov would injure an important talent pipeline. Bergevin strikes me as arrogant, verging on ignorant. Habs have a history going back to Trechiak that was ruined by Bergevin, maybe he's trying to make it right. He's just not competent at this level. - Pie
Main thing I got from that quote during the presser was that he preferred to go for the offer he got yesterday from Washington, instead of waiting for a "maybe" he could have been offered today according to talks he had with other GMs
I don't really have a problem with that. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Some were really expecting MB to make a big trade ? The guy loves his team, he is not the GM, he a super fefan who buys his own BS. |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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Main thing I got from that quote during the presser was that he preferred to go for the offer he got yesterday from Washington, instead of waiting for a "maybe" he could have been offered today according to talks he had with other GMs
I don't really have a problem with that. - stinger67
yep, really no problem there. not the issue, and not the reason why they will miss for the 4th time in 5 years |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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yep, really no problem there. not the issue, and not the reason why they will miss for the 4th time in 5 years - fidopro
I still don’t get why they would bring Kovy back and why he would not try to maximize the return for him. MB is the ultimate fefan |
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fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC Joined: 08.10.2008
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I still don’t get why they would bring Kovy back and why he would not try to maximize the return for him. MB is the ultimate fefan - Symba007
the way I see it, MB had the choice between a 3rd from WASH, where Kovy wants to go, and a conditionnal 2nd from another team where Kovy doesn't want to go.
he decided to please his player, no big deal imo.
people talk about that a lot, meanwhile Timmins sleeps like a baby. |
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