should have bridged marner at $6M for 1 year.

$10.9M would still be ludicrous to pay him next year.
- Tumbleweed

Without Ceci, you would still have Zaitsev, so you wouldn’t have had $6 milly to bridge Marner.

....aaaaaaaand he would not have signed it anyways.

Can’t wait for Barrie to walk for nothing when we don’t even make the playoffs or at best squeak in and get bounced first round again. Having Barrie in the line does not make us any better or worse. Some might argue worse lol. There’s zero reason why he wasn’t traded. Dubas’ inexperience is really showing this year. Instead of making deals and working the phones he’s busy resigning Muzzin. We’re doomed to purgatory forever with this gm. Perennial playoff fringe team with Dubas as gm and his broken vision for a winner.
- davecervo

He's still the GM of the Marlies.

They essentially traded 3 1st round picks this trade deadline. Holy poop
- RickJames77

Didn't they get the memo?

They can't go for it, Carolina is already going for it!

The only thing dubas is concerned about is maximizing his own tenure as a leafs GM.
The longer he stays, the more chance he'll have at a few other shots as a NHL GM.
Hence the 0 risk strategy.
- MaximusAurelius

can you explain what would be a risk?

Like is stuff like trading Kadri not a risk?
what about trading Marleau with a 1st?
Signing muzzin age 30-34

what exactly qualifies as a risk?

How's that looking now?
- aminnes

Zaitsev was a longer term problem than Ceci.
You weren't trading him for Ray Bourque. It was a cap room move.

should have bridged marner at $6M for 1 year.

$10.9M would still be ludicrous to pay him next year.
- Tumbleweed

could have went that route also if not for paul marner.

Didn't they get the memo?

They can't go for it, Carolina is already going for it!
- Scabeh

Yeah but we have both Ritchie brothers now, so...

Yeah but we have both Ritchie brothers now, so...
- RickJames77

Nick and Lionel?

How's that looking now?
- aminnes

Still a great deal, IMHO.

Zaitsev still sucks.

So for a team that has Auston Matthews producing 50-60 goals per year for 5 years under contract, you get rid of one of our other best play drivers for 4 1sts that may not show up in the line-up until year 3-4 of that Matthews contract? That puts us closer to the cup?

I get the frustration; we're ALL frustrated with this team's inability to DO anything. But keeping Patrick Marleau was NEVER the solution to these problems.

For the record, neither was keeping Nazem Kadri. We can argue that the acquisition of Barrie and Kerfoot was a poor one; the other option of Jankowski and Brodie from Calgary (rumoured) would have been even worse.

Trading away Zaitsev's $4.5m for the next 5 years for 1 year of Cody Ceci was also not the problem. Even had they walked away from Ceci, the ONLY option that they might have stumbled into there (which wasn't on the table at the time) would have been to resign Jake Gardiner.

Look at the options. The options have to present themselves as they present themselves. Sometimes you just can't force the situation.
- Monkeypunk

Then why sign Matthews to only 5 years? He's adjusting due to his own mistakes. Bandaid the bandaid over the bandaid. I'm not saying it was an easy situation, but maybe that's why your don't have a rookie GM who's 35 years old trying to deal with it.

Still a great deal, IMHO.

Zaitsev still sucks.
- Atomic Wedgie

It was another panic move. He sees a problem and thinks he has to dal with it that day. Wait it out. See what happens. Ceci was not an upgrade so why panic?

Leafs SUCK.....Nice trade for kardri. going nowhere and you don t get assets for barrie. I m trying to bring myself to burn my jersey. i need closure. so so down and angry.

Peloton - haven't heard of zwift, but looks interesting
- RickJames77

Ah, so you’re on the platform with all the milfs and young hotties working on their bootys?

That might seem like I’m insulting you, but it’s actually tipping you my cap with respect.

Muzz - $16.8M signing bonus.

Leafs SUCK.....Nice trade for kardri. going nowhere and you don t get assets for barrie. I m trying to bring myself to burn my jersey. i need closure. so so down and angry.
- ziffles

Burn it. And take an uber to the nearest therapist or bar.

Ah, so you’re on the platform with all the milfs and young hotties working on their bootys?

That might seem like I’m insulting you, but it’s actually tipping you my cap with respect.
- Atomic Wedgie

That's the one.

Then why sign Matthews to only 5 years? He's adjusting due to his own mistakes. Bandaid the bandaid over the bandaid. I'm not saying it was an easy situation, but maybe that's why your don't have a rookie GM who's 35 years old trying to deal with it.
- aminnes

.... this exactly. He’s was inexperienced and had no business trying to sign those players to that kind of term and money. Lou should of stayed one more year and paid willy 6 and marner 9.5

Leafs SUCK.....Nice trade for kardri. going nowhere and you don t get assets for barrie. I m trying to bring myself to burn my jersey. i need closure. so so down and angry.
- ziffles

Always keep your expectations low. It helps with the inevitable pain that will come later.

It was another panic move. He sees a problem and thinks he has to dal with it that day. Wait it out. See what happens. Ceci was not an upgrade so why panic?
- aminnes

also this

can you explain what would be a risk?

Like is stuff like trading Kadri not a risk?
what about trading Marleau with a 1st?
Signing muzzin age 30-34

what exactly qualifies as a risk?
- senstroll

Trading for Max’s stupid ideas

Burn it. And take an uber to the nearest therapist or bar.
- floater_willy

Bar might be the answer lol

.... this exactly. He’s was inexperienced and had no business trying to sign those players to that kind of term and money. Lou should of stayed one more year and paid willy 6 and marner 9.5
- davecervo

Willy set the precedent. They were in first place yet panicked and caved. Why? Sometimes clubs have to be bumholes to players and that's the way it is. Yes, he produces at a good enough pace for the money, but when you don't need him to win you have all the leverage and can get him signed for less than he MIGHT be worth later. After that happened the rest of them were licking their chops.

Trading for Max’s stupid ideas
- Santo_44

I dont get that stance at all.

From my seat, Dubas has done a lot of risky things...that are not working out great...so far.

Also Firing Babs when he did was a pretty big one, he could have waited it out and have an extra year to skate on Babs dime

I dont get that stance at all.

From my seat, Dubas has done a lot of risky things...that are not working out great...so far.

Also Firing Babs when he did was a pretty big one, he could have waited it out and have an extra year to skate on Babs dime
- senstroll

He believes in the roster he built.

Muzz - $16.8M signing bonus.
- Woderwick

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