agreed

only hanging chads are vesey, larsson and girgens

and I think it's probably a lock larsson and girgens comes back
- homiedclown

Was it you or 89 that was saying that Botterill is very intent on having Vesey here past this season? I think not trading him is a strong indicator of that, for better or worse.

I quite literally have no idea what Botterill is doing.

the moves yesterday made very little sense.
- BINGO!

team won 5 out of 6

it's all about giving them a chance to catch the leafs
6 points out and a game in hand

Was it you or 89 that was saying that Botterill is very intent on having Vesey here past this season? I think not trading him is a strong indicator of that, for better or worse.
- buffalofan19

89

That's all well and good. What's not all well and good is that the guy can't skate anymore.
- buffalofan19

Well, he's here for 20 games.

If he gives the skill guys more confidence and belief out there, and provides much needed leadership and guidance in the room, then it's well worth it.

Was it you or 89 that was saying that Botterill is very intent on having Vesey here past this season? I think not trading him is a strong indicator of that, for better or worse.
- buffalofan19

He is staying. Botts or Krug must like him. Bet he gets a 2 year 2m per deal

89
- homiedclown

You think they revisit the Josh Anderson idea in the summer?

I’m with you. No one decent that got moved was worth what was paid. There is plenty of opportunities to make deals in the off season with the other teams restructuring
- lulags

You guys couldn't match what was paid for Trochek?

honestly they got very little that was good.... a 3C, a 4C, a guy with 4C potential and a 23 year old AHL defenseman...

Was it you or 89 that was saying that Botterill is very intent on having Vesey here past this season? I think not trading him is a strong indicator of that, for better or worse.
- buffalofan19

Yes talk was they want to resign him and they both like his game.

They lack grit.

They lack leadership.

They lack size.

Definitely not a head scratcher to me.
- Powerslave

If any of this mattered at all why is NJ terrible when they probably should have been good

Simmonds brings nothing that translates to winning on a team that isn't already really good

team won 5 out of 6

it's all about giving them a chance to catch the leafs
6 points out and a game in hand
- homiedclown

sure thing bud

What's the minimum amount of points they can get on this 4-game road trip to realistically stay in it?

team won 5 out of 6

it's all about giving them a chance to catch the leafs
6 points out and a game in hand
- homiedclown

Simmonds was a good move, calms guys down and helps bring them together if and when they collapse. Doesn't hurt that he's here.

You think they revisit the Josh Anderson idea in the summer?
- Powerslave

I am not certain they were in on him yesterday, if they do pursue him this summer it will depend on 4 things

1. how he responds from injury
2. how tage responds from injury
3, price to get him
4, if they can get one of the guys they like from tampa at the draft

Simmonds was a good move, calms guys down and helps bring them together if and when they collapse. Doesn't hurt that he's here.
- SABRES 89

and a locker room guy

If any of this mattered at all why is NJ terrible when they probably should have been good

Simmonds brings nothing that translates to winning on a team that isn't already really good
- robz228

He hasn't been good for a while. Big guy that gets to the net and can't really skate anymore.

sure thing bud
- BINGO!

you have been sour lately


who pissed in your corn flakes?

You guys couldn't match what was paid for Trochek?

honestly they got very little that was good.... a 3C, a 4C, a guy with 4C potential and a 23 year old AHL defenseman...
- BINGO!

Wasn't it reported that he made an offer that he thought was better than Carolina's?

The Simmonds trade was a bit of a head-scratcher cap and roster wise.

They essentially traded Sheary and Rodrigues for a future that's further along in his development.
- buffalofan19

i believe NJ retained half of Simmonds, but i could be wrong

He hasn't been good for a while. Big guy that gets to the net and can't really skate anymore.
- BINGO!

yet he has 3 more points then skinner this season

i believe NJ retained half of Simmonds, but i could be wrong
- SabresFaninIndiana

they did

He hasn't been good for a while. Big guy that gets to the net and can't really skate anymore.
- BINGO!

Thats kind of my point. People got a boner when NJ added him because of his size, toughness, and grit etc etc but clearly it was meaningless because the team didn't have skill

So then what the hell is the point of his size, toughness, and grit?

Wasn't it reported that he made an offer that he thought was better than Carolina's?
- Powerslave

That's what gets lost in this whole thing. If Tallon has a man-crush on Priskie, there isn't much you can do about it.

What's the minimum amount of points they can get on this 4-game road trip to realistically stay in it?
- buffalofan19

i would say 5-6 but should be 6

Wasn't it reported that he made an offer that he thought was better than Carolina's?
- Powerslave

missed that. It's certainly possible. Maybe Tallon didn't want to trade in his own division. He's pretty dumb.

What's the minimum amount of points they can get on this 4-game road trip to realistically stay in it?
- buffalofan19

Part of me feels like we dont control it. It comes down to Tor/FLA if we win all 4 but they win 4 straight it doesnt matter.


whats the first tie breaker regulation wins or head to head?