I like Pageau and at 5m its a steal. People need to look around. 2nd and 3rd line players aren't getting 60-80 points anymore.
- toddkac

Looks at the good teams, they're definitely getting 50 to 60.

Looks at pageau as a 40 point player while playing top line minutes.

He has mitts and cozens in his pipeline ...... and he’s had 2 years to replace oreilly. Clearly he didn’t want think 2C was a dire need
- Sabretooth9

The plan was to have Sobotka and Berglund as part of the core for the next two years. Don’t forget that Berglund was a 20 goal score many years and was capable of a second line roll. It was disappointing and not really anyone’s fault that things worked out so poorly and he just left the league.

As it stands, guys who could potentially play 2C for us next year...

Cozens
Mitts
Kahun
MoJo

I guess Cozens is the guy guy most would slot in there at the moment
But i understand wanting someone we know can be decent (at least) in that spot

Big question is...
-do we go after a legit 2C (if available), and give up the major assets it would take to get him?
OR
-do we look for a good placeholder while we wait for Cozens to develop?

Cozens just as easily be a 50point 2C next year as he could struggle
- jdfitz77

sorry but the 1st overall pick will be #2 center next year when we miss the playoffs by 4 points and then win the lottery. Boom female doges

Sure
But are we building to be a Contender for the Cup,
or just the playoffs?
Bc that’s 2 different things
And requires making smart moves,
for the RIGHT players,
not just for anyone who’s better than what we’ve got
- jdfitz77

How is Trocheck (who is the topic of this conversation) just anyone? He's a legitimate quality center.

Since they need 2 centers, not one, yes, they absolutely need a 50 point center, and that's even if Cozens will be ready. I would look to trade and/or sign two centers this offseason. He needs to stop waiting on maybe's.

Bonino works because he's good and his contract is not long.

Not at center

I feel like Trocheck could’ve been had
Maybe Homie or 89 will hear if we were in on him at all?
Or maybe Botts just doesn’t think he’s the stud from 3years ago anymore?
- jdfitz77

price was too high


it's like offering florida casey, pilut, marcus johansson and tage for him

sorry but the 1st overall pick will be #2 center next year when we miss the playoffs by 4 points and then win the lottery. Boom female doges


- gordong

I wonder if we did win the lotto,
would this place finally cheer up?
Or would it still just be a nonstop b!tchfest? 😂😂

price was too high

it's like offering florida casey, pilut, marcus johansson and tage for him
- homiedclown

The Carolina prospects were that good?

Sabres have the rights for Kahun this summer


in essence it's sheary, e-rod and a 5th for simmonds and kahun


neither sheary nor e rod was getting offered a contract


we got a rental on the cheap for a playoff push and middle 6 winger that's young and has speed

price was too high


it's like offering florida casey, pilut, marcus johansson and tage for him
- homiedclown

I dont see a problem with that

Also the Panthers were told to shed salary. Replace Mojo with Larry

holy Sh**** go read the first paragraph of the Blue Jackest blog.

you wont be disappointed.
- ImThatGuy

That blog has now disappeared

The Carolina prospects were that good?
- kingcong39

if all works out well for the panthers, it's a 5/6 d man and 3 third liners

That blog has now disappeared
- Stripes77

And THAT is how you get fired in style

Who had Big Kahuna in the garf pool?

How is Trocheck (who is the topic of this conversation) just anyone? He's a legitimate quality center.

Since they need 2 centers, not one, yes, they absolutely need a 50 point center, and that's even if Cozens will be ready. I would look to trade and/or sign two centers this offseason. He needs to stop waiting on maybe's.

Bonino works because he's good and his contract is not long.
- kingcong39

Trading for a guy like Bonino is reasonably priced
Trading for a guy like Ryan Johansen would cost a lot more
And if we do trade for a guy like that,
we better be damn sure that he really is a great #2
Bc we cant take on an 8mil cap hit for the next 5 years is he’s the “wrong guy”
That would kill us

Imagine if we traded for Pk Subban &/or Kessel this past season?

Maybe Botts didn’t think Trocheck was worth trading for?
He’s only playing at a pace of 15goals,
for the 2nd straight season

It’s understandable if he didn’t think he was the right guy... obviously Florida doesn’t either!

Trading for a guy like Bonino is reasonably priced
Trading for a guy like Ryan Johansen would cost a lot more
And if we do trade for a guy like that,
we better be damn sure that he really is a great #2
Bc we cant take on an 8mil cap hit for the next 5 years is he’s the “wrong guy”
That would kill us

Imagine if we traded for Pk Subban &/or Kessel this past season?

Maybe Botts didn’t think Trocheck was worth trading for?
He’s only playing at a pace of 15goals,
for the 2nd straight season

It’s understandable if he didn’t think he was the right guy... obviously Florida doesn’t either!
- jdfitz77

Florida was told to shed $10m in salary

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1231972459777331200

That's why he was traded. Second tweet down. Sorry I dont have twitter and I cant get the copy/paste to play nicely

Sabres have the rights for Kahun this summer


in essence it's sheary, e-rod and a 5th for simmonds and kahun


neither sheary nor e rod was getting offered a contract


we got a rental on the cheap for a playoff push and middle 6 winger that's young and has speed
- homiedclown

Decent moves
I can also understand why ppl wanted more

Florida was told to shed $10m in salary

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1231972459777331200

That's why he was traded. Second tweet down. Sorry I dont have twitter and I cant get the copy/paste to play nicely
- jcragcrumple

canes gave up a lot today for 3 guys

And THAT is how you get fired in style
- jcragcrumple

What did the author say? U can paraphrase it, can’t you?

What did the author say? U can paraphrase it, can’t you?
- Da_Cashman

Yeah, he said EK wasnt getting enough clicks today so he made up a bullpoop Blackhawks rumor about Kane and Keith being available as a package

His words, not mine, almighty moderators

Decent moves
I can also understand why ppl wanted more
- jdfitz77

only guy moved today that I wanted was Nick Ritchie

canes gave up a lot today for 3 guys
- homiedclown

And are going to lose in the first round due to goaltending.

canes gave up a lot today for 3 guys
- homiedclown

I think the Trochek package was beatable with minimal pain

Mitts, Johnson and Larry

if all works out well for the panthers, it's a 5/6 d man and 3 third liners
- homiedclown

If Trocheck gets back to being a 75point player,
it’s a steal for the Canes
If he stays at 15-35-50points or so,
idk that it’s a huge upgrade over a healthy Haula

If Florida doesn’t re-sign Haula,
they got fleeced

The prospects they got would’ve been something like us giving up Asplund, Bryson & Tage
We don’t really have a Haula comparable to throw in there...
*and maybe that’s why we didn’t get him?
FLA is still trying to make the playoffs now after all, and would need a better Trocheck replacement than Larsson

Florida was told to shed $10m in salary

https://mobile.twitter.co...tatus/1231972459777331200

That's why he was traded. Second tweet down. Sorry I dont have twitter and I cant get the copy/paste to play nicely
- jcragcrumple

Well i guess that means we will have a shot at Hoffman &/or Dadonov then...
2 RWs that score 30ish goals

This won’t happen but it’s the best chance we have at running the table:

Olofsson-Eichel-Simmonds
Skinner-Larsson-Reinhart
Kahun-Mojo-Vesey
Girgs-Lazar-Okposo