I'll bite. 2 roster players and 2 prospects.

Obviously, Buffalo is not giving Eichel or Dahlin.

What is Buffalo giving that makes Florida not only say "I like this return better", but also, "what are you going to pay me for keeping him in the division?"
- buffalofan19

Marcus Johansson Jimmy Vesey and two prospects gets it done

No way he would give up 2 players and 2 prospects for him.
- SABRES 89

That’s the value of a #2 Center. Only Botts is too dumb to give one away ourselves and get a crap return.

Johnson wasn't BPA that is for sure. He was ranked as a middle 2nd rounder.

Kaliyev was.
- toddkac

Come now.

I have no idea why Florida did this.

But im circling back to what I had said that at-least he went and made the team his own. He went for it... it didnt work out but at least he went for it
- hubie

I understand what you're saying. And I also think that Botts looked at how weak not only the NHL roster was, but the AHL and the pipeline of prospects. Thought a methodical approach would be better. Which is fine if you hit on your picks. Which is why he's linked to Mitts and Cozens where Murray is linked to EK9 and ROR.

Come now.
- TheSabresTaco

Both Lavoie and Kayilev were expected to go in the first round.

Johnson was not.

Its really not that hard.


Kayilev was as high as 15th overall on some boards.

I have no idea why Florida did this.
- BINGO!

Trochek must have wanted out. It makes no sense otherwise.

IM 99% sure eveyone had Johnson as a reach
- hubie

A 10 spot reach I think it came out to be. So if you want your guy, and you're not picking until the 3rd round.. it's not that bad. If we had a 2nd, you might see a different player drafted at 31.

That’s the value of a #2 Center. Only Botts is too dumb to give one away ourselves and get a crap return.
- Fattony1187

Not dumb just probably didn't want to give that up for him and that's even if he tried.

Its not really subjective, its consensus and lets not be arrogant or stupid.

Johnson was not BPA and you clearly didn't watch the draft.
- toddkac

Ha (frank) off. You're kidding right? Look at 10 different scouting rankings and you'll see 10 wildly different variations of picks 20-44. Talk about not being arrogant or stupid

Both Lavoie and Kayilev were expected to go in the first round.

Johnson was not.

Its really not that hard.


Kayilev was as high as 15th overall on some boards.
- toddkac

TWSS

Both Lavoie and Kayilev were expected to go in the first round.

Johnson was not.

Its really not that hard.
- toddkac

According to, what, TSN? You're debating a subjective list of 31 different people. You'll get no where, and you can hang onto your opinion.

A 10 spot reach I think it came out to be. So if you want your guy, and you're not picking until the 3rd round.. it's not that bad. If we had a 2nd, you might see a different player drafted at 31.
- TheSabresTaco

Im sure its a lot more than 10 spots
but youre right one list can be drastically different than another. Happens in every sport like that.

Not dumb just probably didn't want to give that up for him and that's even if he tried.
- SABRES 89

No one, and i mean no one, tries harder than Jason Botterill

A 10 spot reach I think it came out to be. So if you want your guy, and you're not picking until the 3rd round.. it's not that bad. If we had a 2nd, you might see a different player drafted at 31.
- TheSabresTaco

Besides Cozens they have zero top forward prospects though. I'd rather see them draft a forward prospect because they have such a hole in the system. Johnson might be good in a few years but he's not seen as a great defensive prospect.

No way he would give up 2 players and 2 prospects for him.
- SABRES 89

It would have taken more. Buffalo is in Florida's division, and that ups the price.

TWSS
- SabresFaninIndiana

Have you ever heard of droppers and risers?

Not me.

11. Eetu Luostarinen, C, 21 (Charlotte Checkers)

Luostarinen recently eclipsed the 200 pro games plateau, which speaks to the experience he has playing against men already, and the success he has had in Liiga and the AHL. He’s not a game-breaker but he has proven he can be a contributing forward at the pro level who has size and skill. He also has more room to grow and fill out which could add some more power and scoring ability to a solid two-way game as playmaking big man. He’s the kind of player who could play lower in the lineup and take advantage of soft minutes or play higher in the lineup as the third-best player on a good line.

Priskie's a decent D prospect.

Wallmark is Evan Rodrigues. Haula is the a middle 6, fragile C/LW

This package could so easily be matched to acquire a 2C.
- TheSabresTaco

They have better C prospects in there system, wonder if a C prospect was a must in the deal for Florida.

Ha (frank) off. You're kidding right? Look at 10 different scouting rankings and you'll see 10 wildly different variations of picks 20-44. Talk about not being arrogant or stupid
- SDSabre

Kaliyev was as high as 15th overall, Lavoie top 20. Wow, you really didn't watch the draft did you.

You should have watched.

Besides Cozens they have zero top forward prospects though. I'd rather see them draft a forward prospect because they have such a hole in the system. Johnson might be good in a few years but he's not seen as a great defensive prospect.
- bluengold12

2018 6 picks 5 are D men .... yep we needed another

Pierre LeBrun
✔
@PierreVLeBrun
Hurricanes still chasing a D and would prefer not to go the rental route

Ristolainen for Trochek.

Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
Panthers trying to add a D before the deadline today

It's clear the Panthers wanted to add defenders and it's a joke that Botterill wasn't more aggressive on trading away our only assets to acquire a dire need.

2018 6 picks 5 are D men .... yep we needed another
- hubie

he likes the D

According to, what, TSN? You're debating a subjective list of 31 different people. You'll get no where, and you can hang onto your opinion.
- TheSabresTaco

Not according to TSN

According to
HOCKEYPROSPECT.COM
FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS
ISS HOCKEY
MCKEEN'S HOCKEY
ELITEPROSPECTS.COM

Want the links on the players?

Kaliyev was as high as 15th overall, Lavoie top 20. Wow, you really didn't watch the draft did you.

You should have watched.
- toddkac

I see we have a wannabe scout on the board now