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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 24 @ 6:08 PM ET
If, Either way it's puzzling.
- MJL


I saw several say it was about clearing cap space for next season but I haven’t looked into it.

arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 24 @ 6:11 PM ET
lol built to win a series we just got clowned by tampa
- 2Real


What about the 1-0 loss off a bullpoop lucky goal before? Oh yeah there’s other teams in the east we can play in the playoffs!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:11 PM ET
Can anyone explain what TB is thinking there? Is this an Eminger kind of deal?
- MJL

Nice to see them on the wrong side of a deal for once. I swear that franchise collectively has a horseshoe up its ass.
arichardson22
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Feb 24 @ 6:12 PM ET
I saw several say it was about clearing cap space for next season but I haven’t looked into it.
- NC Flyers Fan


I think it was saving space rather than clearing. Think I read Goodrow makes under 1 M for this and next year. And Coleman is under 2M for next year.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 24 @ 6:16 PM ET
I think it was saving space rather than clearing. Think I read Goodrow makes under 1 M for this and next year. And Coleman is under 2M for next year.
- arichardson22


Yes, I think that’s it.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:17 PM ET
I like how he did it, too -- honesty about accountability, moving him down in the lineup and allowing him to move back up

You were right earlier in that other coaches/all coaches basically do the same things, but it is nice to know that the Flyers hired someone who, if the players were open to being coached, has shown that he'll help you win games

- AllInForFlyers


The sad part about it is that eventually, Vigneault will get fired just like he did in Montreal, Vancouver and NY. He didn't all of a sudden forget how to coach. Players have to buy in and feel comfortable. He has weight behind him and he used it. The team seems happy and is having fun. That's a big part of it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:18 PM ET
I saw several say it was about clearing cap space for next season but I haven’t looked into it.
- NC Flyers Fan


How is trading a first round pick clear cap space?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 24 @ 6:20 PM ET
you really think the flyers stand a chance in a 7 game series against Tampa, Wash, or Boston?
- 2Real



Yes I think they have a good chance in a 7 game series against Wash given the fact that they have points in every game against them this year including recently beating them 7-2.

I think they have as good a chance as anyone does against the Bolts or Boston.
flyerfan48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IL
Joined: 12.26.2008

Feb 24 @ 6:23 PM ET
The sad part about it is that eventually, Vigneault will get fired just like he did in Montreal, Vancouver and NY. He didn't all of a sudden forget how to coach. Players have to buy in and feel comfortable. He has weight behind him and he used it. The team seems happy and is having fun. That's a big part of it.
- MJL


And hopefully before that happens, we get to celebrate a cup or three.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:27 PM ET
Yes I think they have a good chance in a 7 game series against Wash given the fact that they have points in every game against them this year including recently beating them 7-2.

I think they have as good a chance as anyone does against the Bolts or Boston.

- opeth_pa



I think the moves the Flyers made today including other player moves is a tell to what the brass is thinking. I think that factor is what the biggest obstacle is in any 7 game series against a more seasoned opponent.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:28 PM ET
And hopefully before that happens, we get to celebrate a cup or three.
- flyerfan48


There is something special building here. I can feel it. Just don't want them to mess it up.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 24 @ 6:29 PM ET
The sad part about it is that eventually, Vigneault will get fired just like he did in Montreal, Vancouver and NY. He didn't all of a sudden forget how to coach. Players have to buy in and feel comfortable. He has weight behind him and he used it. The team seems happy and is having fun. That's a big part of it.
- MJL


Totally agree
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 24 @ 6:36 PM ET
How is trading a first round pick clear cap space?
- MJL


Like I said, I haven’t had time to look into it, but I think this quote shows what’s being discussed:

I think it was saving space rather than clearing. Think I read Goodrow makes under 1 M for this and next year. And Coleman is under 2M for next year.
- arichardson22



Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 24 @ 6:47 PM ET
you really think the flyers stand a chance in a 7 game series against Tampa, Wash, or Boston?
- 2Real

absolutely
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Feb 24 @ 7:00 PM ET
you really think the flyers stand a chance in a 7 game series against Tampa, Wash, or Boston?
- 2Real

Didn’t Tampa get swept in the 1st round last year? Stranger things have happened.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 24 @ 7:02 PM ET
i like our chances against WSH the most. TB to a lesser extent. Pens and Boston would be a tough, war of a playoff series imo. Canes actually as well. if they can get goaltending, they are an elite team. love the way they play.
wcorvette
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Feb 24 @ 7:03 PM ET
you really think the flyers stand a chance in a 7 game series against Tampa, Wash, or Boston?
- 2Real



No but the blue jackets could
Bonerfide69
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Feb 24 @ 7:07 PM ET
meh


- wolfhounds

Yea! Thompson is not a superstar even on a beer league team
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
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Feb 24 @ 7:10 PM ET
i like our chances against WSH the most. TB to a lesser extent. Pens and Boston would be a tough, war of a playoff series imo. Canes actually as well. if they can get goaltending, they are an elite team. love the way they play.
- Mordecai

If the Canes get decent goaltending I can see them making a run. That said if the goaltending isn’t there then they are dead in the water.

I wouldn’t mind getting the Pens this year. I don’t think that roster is deep enough.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 7:12 PM ET
If the Canes get decent goaltending I can see them making a run. That said if the goaltending isn’t there then they are dead in the water.

I wouldn’t mind getting the Pens this year. I don’t think that roster is deep enough.

- hereticpride


Any roster with Crosby and Malkin is deep.
SuperSchennBros
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Feb 24 @ 7:20 PM ET
I just finished two yoga classes so I apologize if this question is out of left field because I’ve been out of the loop the last 2 1/2 hours.

With Joel Farabee being sent down and the Flyers going with Derek Grant to replace Bunnaman and one would think Thompson sits. Would it be fair to ask the question of, Did we just make space for Nolan Patrick to return? I mean, I’m not so sure I’m comfortable with Laughton at center in a best of 7, as he’s flipped from wing to center this season and frankly he’s a better winger. I almost feel like we need Patrick now.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Feb 24 @ 7:29 PM ET
I just finished two yoga classes so I apologize if this question is out of left field because I’ve been out of the loop the last 2 1/2 hours.

With Joel Farabee being sent down and the Flyers going with Derek Grant to replace Bunnaman and one would think Thompson sits. Would it be fair to ask the question of, Did we just make space for Nolan Patrick to return? I mean, I’m not so sure I’m comfortable with Laughton at center in a best of 7, as he’s flipped from wing to center this season and frankly he’s a better winger. I almost feel like we need Patrick now.

- SuperSchennBros

i think the possibility of getting Patrick back is definitely part of the picture. it would provide a huge moral boost no doubt, but i question how effective he can really be at this point after missing so much game time. either way we have some serious depth now and will hopefully be prepared no matter what the outcome is with Patrick this year. best case scenario, imo, is he can get back into the line up for 5-10 games and find a bit of rhythm before we gear up for the playoffs.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 24 @ 7:39 PM ET
I thought the moves today were fine. Surprised they didn’t trade for a depth d instead of Thompson. They must feel real good about Friedman.

The only thing is I don’t like sending farabee down, but he is only 19...he’ll be ok. I think they could use him still
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 24 @ 7:41 PM ET
i think the possibility of getting Patrick back is definitely part of the picture. it would provide a huge moral boost no doubt, but i question how effective he can really be at this point after missing so much game time. either way we have some serious depth now and will hopefully be prepared no matter what the outcome is with Patrick this year. best case scenario, imo, is he can get back into the line up for 5-10 games and find a bit of rhythm before we gear up for the playoffs.
- Mordecai


I think he'll need that conditioning stint in the A, as well as 10 games to have any hope of getting into rhythm. I just worry about him coming in so late in the season not wanting him to get hurt.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 7:41 PM ET
i think the possibility of getting Patrick back is definitely part of the picture. it would provide a huge moral boost no doubt, but i question how effective he can really be at this point after missing so much game time. either way we have some serious depth now and will hopefully be prepared no matter what the outcome is with Patrick this year. best case scenario, imo, is he can get back into the line up for 5-10 games and find a bit of rhythm before we gear up for the playoffs.
- Mordecai


I think Bill kind of spelled it out with a recent blog. They no longer have the ability to send him down to the AHL other than for a few games. I don't think they're going to close the door but the odds of Patrick getting in game shape and in tune well enough to play for a team fighting for a playoff spot is not good. I don't think they trade for two centers if they feel Patrick has a realistic chance to play this season.
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