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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
so what. the Leafs are the only team with cap problems
- senstroll


Yes, of course.. No other team has cap issues
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Feb 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
Montreal retained half of his salary.. Washington is paying Kovalchuk $75,000 for the rest of the season.
- PatC80


For a 3rd!
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
I have been thinking more about that game... up until MArazek got injured teh team was playing all right. It’s almost like after that they were in shock. Like when you witness a car accident. Your knees go weak and you are in a daze. They couldn’t seem to get anything back. I dont want to excuse them, but that’s what it seemed like. it would be silimair to seeing a player collapse on teh ice (Jbo) and then trying to play. I think it was shock...
- Hockey_Reverend


They were poop all night. Could not execute a pass at all. Toe picks and losing edges all night too. Looked like Timbits hockey out there.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
Leaf fans think the key to winning is to not give 22 year-old superstars a lot. Instead overpay for 4th liners to "Balance" the lineup...
- RogerRoeper


Please find an example of a Leafs fan advocating overpaying 4th liners.







winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Feb 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
Matthews has always been the better player
- PatC80


Great move by Bergevin, got good production out of the player for league minimum, got a free 3rd rounder and did Kovalchuk a solid and increased the chances of him signing with the Habs next year as a UFA.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:19 AM ET
Please find an example of a Leafs fan advocating overpaying 4th liners.
- Aetherial


Bring Lou Back!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 9:20 AM ET

- senstroll


A little tight, but sexy .
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:21 AM ET
Great move by Bergevin, got good production out of the player for league minimum, got a free 3rd rounder and did Kovalchuk a solid and increased the chances of him signing with the Habs next year as a UFA.
- winsix


If Kovalchuk doesn't work out in Washington, I really expect him to come back where he did kinda work. Which is Montreal.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 24 @ 9:22 AM ET
Trade Tyson Barrie, please.
willdjr75
Location: “Two things are certain in life: Taxes. And UG arguing about taxes. “ - RafiDRW, ON
Joined: 07.06.2016

Feb 24 @ 9:23 AM ET
Trade Tyson Barrie, please.
- Steven_Seagull


Agree, they are supposedly trying
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:23 AM ET
If Kovalchuk doesn't work out in Washington, I really expect him to come back where he did kinda work. Which is Montreal.
- Scabeh

I would expect him to be captaining SKA.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 24 @ 9:23 AM ET
We have a lot tied up in superstars. That's ok. Pay your stars, don't overpay for supporting players.
- RogerRoeper


I agree with this. The point is that the superstars aren't executing like superstars. Matthews has been elite.

At 5v5, Tavares is -6 in goal differential; Marner is -5. If we want to throw his name into the mix, Nylander is +4. Again, in much the same situations, Hyman is +3.

Matthews, as noted, is +17.

We need more out of Tavares and Marner in particular, and to be honest, Nylander, too.

Any +/- metric has it's limitations, but again when compared to the team as a whole, particularly when you have an idea of the level of competition faced, it gives you a decent picture: Marner and Tavares are not executing at the level they are expected to execute at.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 24 @ 9:23 AM ET
Bring Lou Back!
- RogerRoeper


Keefe played the 4th line in the last 2 minutes!

#firekeefe
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
Bring Lou Back!
- RogerRoeper


179 NYI with 2 games in hand
172 TML

Points over the last 2 seasons

I like Dubas, not sure why you find the need to repeat yourself about Lou. Did he touch you?

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
They were poop all night. Could not execute a pass at all. Toe picks and losing edges all night too. Looked like Timbits hockey out there.
- gravyface


Yeah but, 4-1.. Why does that never work in our favour?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
Heard that too.. Sounds like it is gonna happen
- PatC80


Whatever they get they aren’t gunna keep...as long as it’s good assets they can either flip today or at the draft I am fine with it.

Has to be a really good return though and other GMs know that. They aren’t getting a discount they are probably hoping to get for Krieder or Pageau who are guaranteed to go.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
179 NYI with 2 games in hand
172 TML

Points over the last 2 seasons

I like Dubas, not sure why you find the need to repeat yourself about Lou. Did he touch you?

- Garnie

Touched his soul so hard that he's created a temporal rift where roger can hear the thoughts of islanders fans hating Lou.
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Feb 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
A little tight, but sexy .
- Garnie

I can't look

looks

runs

denies everything later
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Feb 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
If Kovalchuk doesn't work out in Washington, I really expect him to come back where he did kinda work. Which is Montreal.
- Scabeh


Montreal has much more cap flexibiiity than the Capitals. If they sign Holtby to big money, it could use up most of their space. Doubt very much they can re-sign Kovy. Montreal will have both space and motivation to re-sign him.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 24 @ 9:25 AM ET
I have been thinking more about that game... up until MArazek got injured teh team was playing all right. It’s almost like after that they were in shock. Like when you witness a car accident. Your knees go weak and you are in a daze. They couldn’t seem to get anything back. I dont want to excuse them, but that’s what it seemed like. it would be silimair to seeing a player collapse on teh ice (Jbo) and then trying to play. I think it was shock...
- Hockey_Reverend


I think you may have some PTSD. Or retroactive effects from the alcohol consumption that followed as a result of the game.

They weren't good at all that game. They were worse after Mrazek went down, but they were horribly outplayed all game long.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
Keefe played the 4th line in the last 2 minutes!

#firekeefe

- Tumbleweed



I like that.. Matthews/Marner/Tavares/Nylander needed to be benched in the last 5 minutes of the game.. They were not doing anything.. Just missed passes, toe picks and turnovers.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
Keefe played the 4th line in the last 2 minutes!

#firekeefe

- Tumbleweed


canes game?
if so, yes..down by 3 goals...play anyone

down by 1 goal...id prefer Matthews
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
I can't look

looks

runs

denies everything later

- jimi james


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:27 AM ET
I think you may have some PTSD. Or retroactive effects from the alcohol consumption that followed as a result of the game.

They weren't good at all that game. They were worse after Mrazek went down, but they were horribly outplayed all game long.

- Monkeypunk



Keefe acknowledged it after the game. Paraphrasing here, but he said "we lost before the goalie switch to Ayres"
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
canes game?
if so, yes..down by 3 goals...play anyone

down by 1 goal...id prefer Matthews

- senstroll

They were just hoping Clifford would kill another player.
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