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Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:36 PM ET
Mike Commodore
@commie22
Zach Bogosian....Congrats on the new contract....#PackYourpoop and take it to Tampa. #Insiderrrrr
ghetto puck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Wah gwaan?
Joined: 10.25.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:37 PM ET
Draft position has nothing to do with a prospects status after the draft. Letang. Weber, Josi, Keith, Subban. Some of the better defencemen of the past decade or so and all drafted in the second round or later. Not elite?

It is incredibly ignorant to just look at draft position to determine a players value.

- PlatosRepucklic

he said 'elite prospect' not 'elite finished product' nor 'elite nhl player' man. the nhl and the sports networks hype up every prospect at the draft and some make it and some don't.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 23 @ 7:37 PM ET
Lukde Schenn was drafted 5th though. ELITE

Griffin Reinhart ELITE

- PlatosRepucklic

Since you brought him up.......

Schenn is playing on the best team in the league right now as bottom pairing

I got torched for suggesting we pick him up

If he is good enough for TB......
ghetto puck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Wah gwaan?
Joined: 10.25.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:39 PM ET
I agree that the Leafs are weak at LW. What I don't agree with is playing an elite C at LW just because you're weak at that position.

Just stop.

- mjones242

you have 2 elite C and one burgeoning one in nylander whose natural position is at centre, tavares can be just as good if not better on the left wing and he can play with matthews. it might be what is best for this roster.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:40 PM ET
Since you brought him up.......

Schenn is playing on the best team in the league right now as bottom pairing

I got torched for suggesting we pick him up

If he is good enough for TB......

- mr.sir

That's gonna be TBs fatal flaw lol
ghetto puck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Wah gwaan?
Joined: 10.25.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:40 PM ET
25(ish).
- mjones242

so he will be in his prime just in time to walk as a free agent, that really helps the leafs.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 23 @ 7:40 PM ET
Since you brought him up.......

Schenn is playing on the best team in the league right now as bottom pairing

I got torched for suggesting we pick him up

If he is good enough for TB......

- mr.sir


I suggested we grab him to with the caveat marincin never sees the ice again.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 23 @ 7:40 PM ET
you have 2 elite C and one burgeoning one in nylander whose natural position is at centre, tavares can be just as good if not better on the left wing and he can play with matthews. it might be what is best for this roster.
- ghetto puck

Forsberg + Watson

Nylander
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:43 PM ET
so he will be in his prime just in time to walk as a free agent, that really helps the leafs.
- ghetto puck

aw dang what a bummer
ghetto puck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Wah gwaan?
Joined: 10.25.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:43 PM ET
Since you brought him up.......

Schenn is playing on the best team in the league right now as bottom pairing

I got torched for suggesting we pick him up

If he is good enough for TB......

- mr.sir

i suggested the leafs pick him up as well. nothing wrong with him as a bottom end guy on a cheap deal.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 23 @ 7:43 PM ET
Only thing worse than the Leafs last night is a bunch of the posts in this blog.
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Feb 23 @ 7:44 PM ET
he said 'elite prospect' not 'elite finished product' nor 'elite nhl player' man. the nhl and the sports network hype up every prospect at the draft and some make it and some don't.
- ghetto puck

My point is they were "elite prospects" regardless of where they were drafted. They all played on the World Junior team. A lot of development can happen with kids that age. Especially Defensemen.

Additionally, scouts and GM's aren't infallible with their assessments. They can make mistakes and some teams may see something in certain players that other teams missed. Draft position isn't the be-all, end-all.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:44 PM ET
Yeah, really.

McDavid is in a league of his own.

Matthews > Draisaitl. Perhaps you missed the 5v5 goals comment? Pretty impressive numbers Matthews has put up while playing the majority of his career with neutered minutes under a tyrant coach.

- mjones242


That's what a generational player means so you just proved yourself wrong.

Ah yes, the 5v5 goal stat. The stat that didn't even exist among Leafs fans until certain Leafs fans needed a way to carve out something to justify Matthews contract. How about 120 points and an Art Ross?

Yeah, blame Babcock, meanwhile Draisaitl has had how many coaches? Feels like a new one every year.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
Only thing worse than the Leafs last night is a bunch of the posts in this blog.
- GreatGigInTheSky



It's painful.. The b'ys are fuk'd in the head..
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:45 PM ET
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:46 PM ET
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
10s
Zach Bogosian has reached an agreement with the Tampa Bay Lightning
.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:47 PM ET
not to mention ... how does Nylander or Marner compare to McDavid as a linemate.
- Aetherial


Marner is one of the best playmakers in the league and Draisaitl seems to score, even when McDavid is hurt.
ghetto puck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Wah gwaan?
Joined: 10.25.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:47 PM ET
Forsberg + Watson

Nylander

- mr.sir

is this your proposed trade offer? good luck selling nashville on that one.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Feb 23 @ 7:48 PM ET
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
10s
Zach Bogosian has reached an agreement with the Tampa Bay Lightning
.

- Fruitcakenipple



Good job Dubas.
You couldn't sign Barfalo's trash!

Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:49 PM ET
Marner is one of the best playmakers in the league and Draisaitl seems to score, even when McDavid is hurt.
- JohnFergusonJr


Matthews scores without Marner too. All four of the players in these examples are very good.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:49 PM ET
Good job Dubas.
You couldn't sign Barfalo's trash!


- .HOHO.


Taxes.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:50 PM ET
Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
10s
Zach Bogosian has reached an agreement with the Tampa Bay Lightning
.

- Fruitcakenipple


Worked out for Shattenkirk. Makes sense for Bogosian.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 23 @ 7:50 PM ET
Taxes.
- Zezel

ghetto puck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Wah gwaan?
Joined: 10.25.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:50 PM ET
My point is they were "elite prospects" regardless of where they were drafted. They all played on the World Junior team. A lot of development can happen with kids that age. Especially Defensemen.

Additionally, scouts and GM's aren't infallible with their assessments. They can make mistakes and some teams may see something in certain players that other teams missed. Draft position isn't the be-all, end-all.

- PlatosRepucklic

they were not considered elite prospects at the time. that is why teams didn't draft them in the top 15 picks. they were project picks that turned out to be more than was expected by many teams.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 23 @ 7:50 PM ET
Only thing worse than the Leafs last night is a bunch of the posts in this blog.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Honestly the worst part of the leafs not doing well is uggie digging out his armchair GM cape, throwing it on in his mamas basement, and proceeding to poop days of his endless obsessive oppositional defiance bullpoop all over the place.

(frank)ing guy is such a taint.
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