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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:58 AM ET
With the Flyers on pace for about 100 points and more importantly actually looking like a 100-point team on the ice, I am as excited about this team as I have been in almost 10 years

What a long, horrible slog the last six years were, at various points. But that appears to be over now

I'm just happy for Chuck Fletcher, after all of the insane criticism he took for doing his job in trying to make the team better

Maybe they don't win the Cup this year. A few teams look more ready to do that

But the Flyers are gonna be a tough out, if they finish this season the way they are playing now and make the playoffs

- AllInForFlyers


with their cap situation its going to be really important that the young players, including prospects, get better and better for them to become true contenders. Giroux, Hayes, JVR and Voracek alone take up 30,668,000 in cap space
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:59 AM ET
i wouldn't be opposed to this if both players weren't on expiring deals.
- Ftown19125


They should be able to sign one of them.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:00 AM ET
Ghost and a #1 for Duclair and Pageau. That would replenish the depth the Flyers lost up front. And it fits cap wise.
- PLindbergh31


Trashes Holmgren constantly.

Makes trade proposals that exactly sound like something Holmgren would do.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 11:00 AM ET
LOL yes and we got 2 future potential stars in the process. Sometimes that's the cost of doing business.
- Bryz's Buyout Fund


Yes, hopefully Frost can catch up to Farabee soon. It could be one of those trades that benefit both teams.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:01 AM ET
They should be able to sign one of them.
- PLindbergh31


i wonder what kind of raise pagaeu would get. duclair is rfa so he'd be more affordable. i don't think i'd give up the first in that scenario though.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 11:01 AM ET
Trashes Holmgren constantly.

Makes trade proposals that exactly sound like something Holmgren would do.

- Feanor


Yes, the Kubina and JVR trades are mirror images of the trade I suggested.
Try again.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
They could get something done with him at this deadline. Bottom line is he’s a 7 for us making 4.5 mil
- Just5


Hagg is the #7.

Ghost has been injured.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
Yes, the Kubina and JVR trades are mirror images of the trade I suggested.
Try again.

- PLindbergh31


Holmgren traded away his 1st rounder multiple times.

You somehow forget about Eminger and Versteeg?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
Carter does not want to leave LA. He's 35, settled down, won his cups. Don't think he is the right piece at this point in time.

I would try to leverage JVR (maybe eat some of his cap hit too), picks, prospect, and see what that gets you.

- Bryz's Buyout Fund



I read it somewhere that Carter wanted to stay in LA but was open to coming to Philly.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
with their cap situation its going to be really important that the young players, including prospects, get better and better for them to become true contenders. Giroux, Hayes, JVR and Voracek alone take up 30,668,000 in cap space
- nastyflyergirl


I still think that if you really want to, because JVR is doing his 25/25-50 thing like clockwork again, that if you really want to get off that salary this offseason, then you can do that. Might eat a million, maybe 1.5, but they could get out of that if they truly wanted
Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
Yes, hopefully Frost can catch up to Farabee soon. It could be one of those trades that benefit both teams.
- PLindbergh31


Yea, I feel like with both guys, the sky is the limit. They will be impact players on this team for many years to come.

Even more of a reason to be able to give up future draft considerations, given that those two are right on the cusp of break out as early as next year.

A bottom 6 guy isn't going to get you where you need to be. You got guys right now, who fill those spots just fine: raffl, pitlick, laughton, NAK.

Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
But the Flyers don't need another defenesman. I like Borowiecki tho. Very underrated.
- PLindbergh31

The trade proposal was ghost for two forwards. If we are trade our 6 to 7 th d man I would rather a forward and d man returned. Better scenario imo.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:08 AM ET
Yea, I feel like with both guys, the sky is the limit. They will be impact players on this team for many years to come.

Even more of a reason to be able to give up future draft considerations, given that those two are right on the cusp of break out as early as next year.

A bottom 6 guy isn't going to get you where you need to be. You got guys right now, who fill those spots just fine: raffl, pitlick, laughton, NAK.

- Bryz's Buyout Fund


NAK the career AHLer?
mattstake
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
Flyers looking good..this coming from a Ranger's fan...looking forward to the home and home.
Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
I still think that if you really want to, because JVR is doing his 25/25-50 thing like clockwork again, that if you really want to get off that salary this offseason, then you can do that. Might eat a million, maybe 1.5, but they could get out of that if they truly wanted
- AllInForFlyers


I totally agree that a team would consider taking JVR at 30 years old essentially on a 3 year / maybe 5.5 per deal.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 21 @ 11:09 AM ET
I still think that if you really want to, because JVR is doing his 25/25-50 thing like clockwork again, that if you really want to get off that salary this offseason, then you can do that. Might eat a million, maybe 1.5, but they could get out of that if they truly wanted
- AllInForFlyers

Just curious. For who. The teams that would be interested in jvr to me are the buyers. And I said before. His signing is still a little head scratching.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
Holmgren traded away his 1st rounder multiple times.

You somehow forget about Eminger and Versteeg?

- Feanor


The first round picks he traded off the top of my head were for Versteeg, and Eminger. Both awful. And for Timonen and Hartnell good.

Any others?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
Yes, the Kubina and JVR trades are mirror images of the trade I suggested.
Try again.

- PLindbergh31


I can cherry pick trades, too:

1st for Steve Eminger

1st and 3rd for Versteeg
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
Just curious. For who. The teams that would be interested in jvr to me are the buyers. And I said before. His signing is still a little head scratching.
- Peter Richards


How is signing a 50 point LW puzzling when the team needed a 50 point LW.

Is the Hayes signing puzzling, too?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Musings & Quick Hits: Thu Wrap, Myers, Konecny, LV, Alumni vs. Warriors
- bmeltzer


Bill,

Did Flahr get promoted?
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
I feel bad for anyone that has to go the other way in a trade with the Kings. Can't imagine they be in a position to contend for a few years. I assume they want prospects. I don;t midn standing pat but I am on record as being intrigued by adding Jeff Carter or Staal.


Ilya Kovalchuk LW 6,250,000/6,250,000
Dion Phaneuf D 2,187,500 /4,062,500/ 1,062,500/1,062,500
Mike Richards C 1,570,000 /700,000/900,000/ 900,000 /700,000 /700,000 600,000 600,000
Kyle Clifford LW 800,000
Buried Salary - Los Angeles G 254,893
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
The first round picks he traded off the top of my head were for Versteeg, and Eminger. Both awful. And for Timonen and Hartnell good.

Any others?

- PLindbergh31


You want to give up the Flyers 1st for an undersized rental 3C and a RFA wing on his 5th team who will be overpaid based on his 2nd good season out of five.

Dumb & dumber.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:14 AM ET
How is signing a 50 point LW puzzling when the team needed a 50 point LW.

Is the Hayes signing puzzling, too?

- Feanor


For the people that were crying for months about it, yeah, probably.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 21 @ 11:14 AM ET
Hagg is the #7.

Ghost has been injured.

- Feanor


At this point hagg is playing better and brings more stability than ghost has at anytime this year, and is better suited for the 3rd D pairing alongside Braun. I’m looking down the road also...I don’t see a role for ghost on the team that justifies his cap hit
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:14 AM ET
Per Dreger, Bogo will be placed on unconditional waivers with intent to terminate contract. Also said Buffalo tried very hard to trade him, even at 50% retained
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