AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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With the Flyers on pace for about 100 points and more importantly actually looking like a 100-point team on the ice, I am as excited about this team as I have been in almost 10 years
What a long, horrible slog the last six years were, at various points. But that appears to be over now
I'm just happy for Chuck Fletcher, after all of the insane criticism he took for doing his job in trying to make the team better
Maybe they don't win the Cup this year. A few teams look more ready to do that
But the Flyers are gonna be a tough out, if they finish this season the way they are playing now and make the playoffs |
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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tough spot with the deadline, you want to help the group, they deserve it but they are playing so well do you really want to mess with the chemistry. Think about the Yotes and their record prior to getting Hall and after, under 500 since.
Then you still have Patrick and Lindblom next year and the farm system is still solid.
Any trade would have to take it into consideration, they would have to part with a piece to make room for the acquisition. So the 4C, what would you give up and what really would be the upside and the cost. The 4th line is playing well, why pay the price to mess with it? That leaves you with, can you upgrade the wing or center?
I could see them moving raffle, I could see other teams asking for Laughton. I believe NAK has played himself into a possible trade chip.
I won't be disappointed if they stand pat, if they do trade it needs to be a clear upgrade. |
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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.24.2019
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Ghost for DuClair! Boom! - SuperSchennBros
No thanks. Would rather ghost plus a second for domi. |
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I look at the return we got for Schenn (2 firsts and a roster player), and feel as if it's our time to dish out those types of assets in return for a mid twenties, impact, top 6 player still on term (Schenn playing 3 years for the blues on the deal he signed with philly). I get those types of deals on usually done in the off season, but if you have the pieces why not get creative with it?
The farm is still loaded with teen spirit, and giving up 2 firsts now to solidify your place among the leagues elite seems fine to me. - Bryz's Buyout Fund
The roster player was an absolute bum with an absurd cap hit. The only reason they got two # 1's was because they took that albatross back. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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tough spot with the deadline, you want to help the group, they deserve it but they are playing so well do you really want to mess with the chemistry. Think about the Yotes and their record prior to getting Hall and after, under 500 since.
Then you still have Patrick and Lindblom next year and the farm system is still solid.
Any trade would have to take it into consideration, they would have to part with a piece to make room for the acquisition. So the 4C, what would you give up and what really would be the upside and the cost. The 4th line is playing well, why pay the price to mess with it? That leaves you with, can you upgrade the wing or center?
I could see them moving raffle, I could see other teams asking for Laughton. I believe NAK has played himself into a possible trade chip.
I won't be disappointed if they stand pat, if they do trade it needs to be a clear upgrade. - wcorvette
I wouldn't pencil in Lindblom to ever return to the team at this point. His main focus should be beating cancer, and hockey thoughts should be the last thing in his mind. If he gets healthy and returns, that's great, but that should be treated as a bonus, not a certainty. |
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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tough spot with the deadline, you want to help the group, they deserve it but they are playing so well do you really want to mess with the chemistry. Think about the Yotes and their record prior to getting Hall and after, under 500 since.
Then you still have Patrick and Lindblom next year and the farm system is still solid.
Any trade would have to take it into consideration, they would have to part with a piece to make room for the acquisition. So the 4C, what would you give up and what really would be the upside and the cost. The 4th line is playing well, why pay the price to mess with it? That leaves you with, can you upgrade the wing or center?
I could see them moving raffle, I could see other teams asking for Laughton. I believe NAK has played himself into a possible trade chip.
I won't be disappointed if they stand pat, if they do trade it needs to be a clear upgrade. - wcorvette
Looking at the roster I don’t know how they fit anything on the roster without sending ghost the other way. There’s just no cap room and everyone seems to be contributing
I’m no cap expert but to some it looks damn near impossible unless they acquire a young player on a cheap deal |
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Starting off the daily trade proposals
Ghost + Vorobyov to Ottawa for Tieney + Borowiecki (maybe I can like him on the Flyers) + 3rd |
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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I wouldn't pencil in Lindblom to ever return to the team at this point. His main focus should be beating cancer, and hockey thoughts should be the last thing in his mind. If he gets healthy and returns, that's great, but that should be treated as a bonus, not a certainty. - jmatchett383
don't disagree for sure but they do have to factor him in when they are making trades. |
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Ghost for DuClair! Boom! - SuperSchennBros
Ghost and a #1 for Duclair and Pageau. That would replenish the depth the Flyers lost up front. And it fits cap wise. |
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Looking at the roster I don’t know how they fit anything on the roster without sending ghost the other way. There’s just no cap room and everyone seems to be contributing
I’m no cap expert but to some it looks damn near impossible unless they acquire a young player on a cheap deal - Just5
I have held out on Ghost and still think there's more there, but your post ain't wrong -- at some point, it's gonna be hard to do a deal without sending money out and he's just not untouchable
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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Carter for Raffle and a 2nd pick with LA retaining 1/2
spitballing, who has one?
Again, I prefer they stand pat |
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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.24.2019
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tough spot with the deadline, you want to help the group, they deserve it but they are playing so well do you really want to mess with the chemistry. Think about the Yotes and their record prior to getting Hall and after, under 500 since.
Then you still have Patrick and Lindblom next year and the farm system is still solid.
Any trade would have to take it into consideration, they would have to part with a piece to make room for the acquisition. So the 4C, what would you give up and what really would be the upside and the cost. The 4th line is playing well, why pay the price to mess with it? That leaves you with, can you upgrade the wing or center?
I could see them moving raffle, I could see other teams asking for Laughton. I believe NAK has played himself into a possible trade chip.
I won't be disappointed if they stand pat, if they do trade it needs to be a clear upgrade. - wcorvette
Unless they are adding to get what’s considered a better player I think it is hard to trade at forwards away. Raff maybe due to cap but he will be needed for the bottom 6. Also I feel teams pushing would want him not as much sellers unless it is cap related. Scotty has proven he is an important piece and NAK is price controlled right now. If any prospects go could see vorobyev German bun a man or O’Brien. Depending on return of course who I would be willing to give up.
Always wonder about a d man flip. Like zadorov. He is rumored at times. Would like ghost for him flip. |
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The roster player was an absolute bum with an absurd cap hit. The only reason they got two # 1's was because they took that albatross back. - PLindbergh31
LOL yes and we got 2 future potential stars in the process. Sometimes that's the cost of doing business. |
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Just5
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Starting off the daily trade proposals
Ghost + Vorobyov to Ottawa for Tieney + Borowiecki (maybe I can like him on the Flyers) + 3rd - Bayareaflyer
Yea something creative like that. Your thinking right |
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Ghost and a #1 for Duclair and Pageau. That would replenish the depth the Flyers lost up front. And it fits cap wise. - PLindbergh31
Man. I won't lie: I don't hate that
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dubc55
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Joined: 10.25.2014
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Looking at the roster I don’t know how they fit anything on the roster without sending ghost the other way. There’s just no cap room and everyone seems to be contributing
I’m no cap expert but to some it looks damn near impossible unless they acquire a young player on a cheap deal - Just5
I think Ghosts real trade value for the Flyers at this point is freeing up that cap space. |
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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.24.2019
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Ghost and a #1 for Duclair and Pageau. That would replenish the depth the Flyers lost up front. And it fits cap wise. - PLindbergh31
Instead of duck air I like boro s toughness. |
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I know you need to roll with 4 quality lines in the playoffs but last night game me a little bit more conviction on not doing anything drastic at the deadline.
That was about as impressed as I've been with a 4th in quite sometime. |
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Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 08.24.2019
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Carter for Raffle and a 2nd pick with LA retaining 1/2
spitballing, who has one?
Again, I prefer they stand pat - wcorvette
This is interesting. |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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I have held out on Ghost and still think there's more there, but your post ain't wrong -- at some point, it's gonna be hard to do a deal without sending money out and he's just not untouchable - AllInForFlyers
They could get something done with him at this deadline. Bottom line is he’s a 7 for us making 4.5 mil |
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Carter for Raffle and a 2nd pick with LA retaining 1/2
spitballing, who has one?
Again, I prefer they stand pat - wcorvette
Carter does not want to leave LA. He's 35, settled down, won his cups. Don't think he is the right piece at this point in time.
I would try to leverage JVR (maybe eat some of his cap hit too), picks, prospect, and see what that gets you. |
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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 09.17.2013
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Ghost and a #1 for Duclair and Pageau. That would replenish the depth the Flyers lost up front. And it fits cap wise. - PLindbergh31
i wouldn't be opposed to this if both players weren't on expiring deals. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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The Flyers are currently 8th overall in the standings. At what point do we consider them contenders in the playoffs? - dubc55
When they lock down a playoff spot. |
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Instead of duck air I like boro s toughness. - Peter Richards
But the Flyers don't need another defenesman. I like Borowiecki tho. Very underrated. |
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Dr. Pepper
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.06.2019
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The Flyers could certainly be contenders.... however, they have to clean up these slow first period starts that have plagued them since Lavi was coaching here and every coach since. Starting a game down 1-0 after the first minute will be much harder to overcome when playing in the playoffs. It is usually G's line that starts and gets burned... I would try starting an energy, defensively responsible line like Raffle, Bunnaman, and Aube Kubel just to get past the first shift unscathed.
I hope that they don't reinsert Ghost into a lineup that plays much better defensively without him... Braun is playing much better with Hagg as a partner than he did with Ghost and his + / - has improved playing with a much better defensive defensman.
I would still look at Moving Ghost for Trocheck as the Flyers don't need the offence that Ghost brings as they have Prov, Nisk, Sandy, and Myers who can all fill that role and play much better defensively on top. |
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