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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
The one issue we haven't discussed is how Ghost is viewed among his teammates. Sometimes trading a popular guy isn't the best course of action.
- cdearth23

We had no problem trading Simmonds. This isn’t even a factor.
SuperSchennBros
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Feb 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
Sure. Montreal won't be making the playoffs again this year. Things are tough when you have over 18 mil locked up between your goalie and top d man. Who knows what their strategy is?

But to the point above, I agree. If you're going to give up quality pieces (Ghost, prospects, top picks) you better be getting back even more of a quality player.

- Bryz's Buyout Fund

Ghost being referred to as quality is a complete different debate.
SuperSchennBros
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Feb 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
All this provy for domi trade speculation is pure blasphemy. Provy is our future C, he is also looking more ala Forsberg every day with that facial hair. My man crush is strong right now.

Also, DuClair hasn't done squat in the past month or so. He goes so cold...so cold.

- bmoreflyer

Nobody is talking about trading Provorov for Domi. We also have no idea if Provorov is our future Captain.
SuperSchennBros
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Feb 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
DuClair being on team #5 at the age of 24 makes me pause about him, granted he could have grown up. Pageau is a UFA. Honestly I don't want to see them move their first rounder.
- nastyflyergirl


DuClair on a bad team and slumping the past month was still scoring at a hire rate than anyone on our team.

If you asked me if I would trade Ghost for DuClair or Kapanen right now if the other side would agree to it, I would. If you asked me if I would trade Ghost for Carter or Staal I wouldn’t. With the loss of Lindblom, I would consider Kapanen or DuClair at the right price.
Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Ghost being referee to as quality is a complete different debate.
- SuperSchennBros


Yeah. I don't know what the problem is. He's showed so much promise at times, it's hard to believe that that skill and upside simply went away. He seems hesitant, second guessing his own ability/positioning, not playing instinctively, not letting pucks rips from the blue line.
HeeroYuy
Location: Ligma, IL
Joined: 04.15.2017

Feb 21 @ 4:15 PM ET
DuClair on a bad team and slumping the past month was still scoring at a hire rate than anyone on our team.

If you asked me if I would trade Ghost for DuClair or Kapanen right now if the other side would agree to it, I would. If you asked me if I would trade Ghost for Carter or Staal I wouldn’t. With the loss of Lindblom, I would consider Kapanen or DuClair at the right price.

- SuperSchennBros


Yikes
SuperSchennBros
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Feb 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
Yeah that gives me pause with Duclair. He passed through waivers in the past too.
- arichardson22

He passed through waivers when he wasn’t having good seasons. He is now. Plus he’s only 24. In my opinion, you roll the dice on players like DuClair, as the Flyers have in the past both bad and good. Voracek wasn’t living up to the hype in Columbus and some thought he never would. Lupul with the Oilers. Alexander daigle. Scottie Upshall, which by the way was a fan favorite but was never anything special. Ray Emery.
Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
Yikes
- HeeroYuy


Yeah, no way. For what it will cost to get him (inflated price) and then potentially resign, you might as well throw a few more pieces in the package and get someone worth while.

I think the Zucker deal will go down as a great one for Pit. He checks all the boxes, with his age (28), term 5.5 through '23, top 6 ability, can finish and give you 25 plus goals.

Fletch should have had the inside push for that having been there. He drafted him! smh
SuperSchennBros
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Feb 21 @ 4:29 PM ET
Yeah, no way. For what it will cost to get him (inflated price) and then potentially resign, you might as well throw a few more pieces in the package and get someone worth while.

I think the Zucker deal will go down as a great one for Pit. He checks all the boxes, with his age (28), term 5.5 through '23, top 6 ability, can finish and give you 25 plus goals.

Fletch should have had the inside push for that having been there. He drafted him! smh

- Bryz's Buyout Fund

When you say “him”, who are you talking about?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 21 @ 4:52 PM ET
Good Lord.. the Bruins, who already have a somewhat thin prospect pool, have dealt a first round pick and David Backes (and some other guy) to Anaheim for Ondrej Kase.
flyeredup85
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 04.05.2012

Feb 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
I keep reading here how this Flyer team isnt ready to contend.No need to try and go for it this year.So i ask.When your 8th in the entire league are you not a contender?When your best player is 32 and your other top player is 30.You also have a good mix of vets and younger players.Shouldnt you do your best and try to go for it now out of respect to the vets?My opinion is if a deal can be made now to help this team and give them the best chance to go for it you have to do it.Even if it puts a small dent in your prospect pool.The Flyers have done a good job in stock piling prospects, picks.I hope Fletcher does something to strengthen this team.Btw Elliott held the fort last night. I know a lot of you were upset Hart didn't start.I felt it was the right call to start Elliott.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:07 PM ET
Yeah, no way. For what it will cost to get him (inflated price) and then potentially resign, you might as well throw a few more pieces in the package and get someone worth while.

I think the Zucker deal will go down as a great one for Pit. He checks all the boxes, with his age (28), term 5.5 through '23, top 6 ability, can finish and give you 25 plus goals.

Fletch should have had the inside push for that having been there. He drafted him! smh

- Bryz's Buyout Fund


Who drafted him is irrelevant. That's not the kind of deal Fletcher should be making.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Feb 21 @ 5:09 PM ET
We had no problem trading Simmonds. This isn’t even a factor.
- SuperSchennBros


Strange that didn't come to mind when I was writing it. I swear I'm a Flyers fan. Simmer was/is way more popular than Ghost could ever hope to be. I can't get the images of Ghost and his damn dogs out of my mind. I realize he has that top PP QB potential but I wouldn't miss him. If Ghost can get us a decent return, we do it.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 21 @ 5:27 PM ET
Yikes Trade Dyke
- HeeroYuy

I’m on the fence
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 21 @ 5:28 PM ET
Who drafted him is irrelevant. That's not the kind of deal Fletcher should be making.
- MJL

Stewart?🚽
Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
Who drafted him is irrelevant. That's not the kind of deal Fletcher should be making.
- MJL


Zucker, 2nd round. 2010
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
Zucker, 2nd round. 2010
- Bryz's Buyout Fund



BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Feb 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
I think the flyers are balanced enough to not really be exposed at the 3C or 4C. Unlike boston, who is a one line wrecking crew, and needs some depth and balance there. I feel the flyers need some fire power to match up with kucherov, stamkos, crosby, geno, ovi, backstrom, pastrnak, marchand...you get the point..

A duclair doesn't do it for me, neither does a pending ufa JGP.

a thought...throw ghost on the fourth line, why not?

- Bryz's Buyout Fund


No you didn't...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:38 PM ET
No you didn't...
- BenderRodriguez


I missed that one. Now I'm convinced.
sILKAsSINASALO
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2018

Feb 21 @ 5:39 PM ET
Do we all agree that hayes is worth the money yet?

He is playing with a poop ton of confidence for a while now
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 21 @ 5:42 PM ET
Do we all agree that hayes is worth the money yet?

He is playing with a poop ton of confidence for a while now

- sILKAsSINASALO

Yea, he does a ton of great things that’s is not registered on the scoresheet.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 21 @ 5:44 PM ET
You read it correctly. I am not responding to two insanely long post that asks a simple question.
- SuperSchennBros

My bad for responding I guess
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
a thought...throw ghost on the fourth line, why not?
- Bryz's Buyout Fund


Lulz, wut?

Why would you break up a fourth line that is performing well by moving a dman onto it?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 21 @ 6:08 PM ET
Nobody is talking about trading Provorov for Domi. We also have no idea if Provorov is our future Captain.
- SuperSchennBros


It's probably gonna either be Provy or TK if we're being honest



Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 21 @ 6:20 PM ET
Lulz, wut?

Why would you break up a fourth line that is performing well by moving a dman onto it?

- opeth_pa


It was a reach for sure. Performing well, ehh they're not lights out. They're a fourth line after all, not being asked to do a whole lot and expectations are low. Nonetheless, there have been some bright spots. I figured some ice time, and PP time would be better than NO time at all. Otherwise, the team should explore the possibility of moving him. Either deadline, or more likely, in the off season.
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