catrisc
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Location: Elmhurst, IL Joined: 12.12.2019
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Another thing worth mentioning is that even if a legit trade opportunity does not present itself, this is still stan's responsibility.
Each years trade deadline scenario is the culmination of past years. In other words, not making a trade, contract extensions, etc. are all part of the equation.
i.e. Not selling Gus last year changed the dynamic for this year. Keith/Seabs NMC clause was sewn years ago. Locking up 11mil in goalies and potentially getting nothing for them.
My main point is that this falls on Stan. If this sounds cut throat that's because this is a business and everyone is accountable (to use Stan's words). |
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Location: VA Joined: 10.05.2015
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Come on Darth. You are a little slow. We need the Stan sleeping image. We count on you for times like this. |
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Come on Darth. You are a little slow. We need the Stan sleeping image. We count on you for times like this. - -Doh-
And the dominoes gif. |
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Maybe Boston likes that Kase only costs $2.6mil. as opposed to Saad's $6mil.? - LAHawk
And Kase is a RFA so he can be extended for a few years at maybe 3 or 4M. Really like the way Boston manages their cap. All their top players signed for years at 6 to 7M. Pastrnak at 6.67M is unreal. |
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MadHatter
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Location: Woodridge, IL Joined: 07.07.2015
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Woah. That's a first I think in Chicago for RL.
Something is really bothering him. Maybe the Hawks have let him know that they will be looking to trade him by Monday.
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@ByScottPowers
Robin Lehner declined to be interviewed after the Blackhawks morning skate. - Tyler Cameron
ya know, one thing that told me something. Before the break, Lehner plays final Hawks game, Jan. 21st...we come out of a LONG break, and who starts ? Crawford. Who starts next ? Crawford. It was at THAT point that I felt Lehner was not gonna be signed, and Hawks wanted to take less chance of him getting hurt or have some bad games. Still a couple of days to go, and Bowman does nothing so far. It is surprising, mostly because we have so much LTIR room. Which team is gonna start panicking and overpay for Gus or one of our goalies ? It might be none. |
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PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Vegas, NV Joined: 06.25.2015
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And Kase is a RFA so he can be extended for a few years at maybe 3 or 4M. Really like the way Boston manages their cap. All their top players signed for years at 6 to 7M. Pastrnak at 6.67M is unreal. - boilermaker100
Keith and Hossa were both @5mil in their prime
Toews and Kane had the 6mil dollar contrats as well
But the Hawks went on to win 3 cups
Maybe if they win multiple cups, their agents can demand more |
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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Another thing worth mentioning is that even if a legit trade opportunity does not present itself, this is still stan's responsibility.
Each years trade deadline scenario is the culmination of past years. In other words, not making a trade, contract extensions, etc. are all part of the equation.
i.e. Not selling Gus last year changed the dynamic for this year. Keith/Seabs NMC clause was sewn years ago. Locking up 11mil in goalies and potentially getting nothing for them.
My main point is that this falls on Stan. If this sounds cut throat that's because this is a business and everyone is accountable (to use Stan's words). - catrisc
LOL! What’s Stan’s responsibility? To make a trade when you dictate he does? Stan’s job is based on him building the team into a contender with the criteria and timeline that ownership and Stan have agreed to. Maybe he’s close to losing his job or maybe ownership is satisfied with Bowman’s work? |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Sounds like for David Backes and a 1st rounder. - Tyler Cameron
Axel Andersson. A meh d prospect playing in the Q this season. |
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rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016
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Keith and Hossa were both @5mil in their prime
Toews and Kane had the 6mil dollar contrats as well
But the Hawks went on to win 3 cups
Maybe if they win multiple cups, their agents can demand more - PatShart
Keith and Hossa had contracts you can't do anymore and always left out of the narrative on Stan, if he doesn't make those $6M bridge deals with Toews and Kane, probably no cups in '13 & '15. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Why not wait until after the TDL to roast Bowman. If a couple of players are still on the team, I will lead the charge. |
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LAHawk
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Why not wait until after the TDL to roast Bowman. If a couple of players are still on the team, I will lead the charge. - Elbows15
Because then we can't spend all weekend complaining about the trades he did make!!
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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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You're missing the mark. Not making a trade that you could've made last year has opportunity cost. Including NMC clauses in a contract is a risk for a team down the road. We're seeing that now.
My point is that if a trade opportunity doesn't come to fruition, you can look back at previous situations that contributed to this outcome.
Stan is on the hot seat. I think you see that right? So not doing anything at the TDL doesn't look good for his job security. That's what I'm saying... - catrisc
No I don’t see that. Quite frankly I have no idea if ownership view his rebuild or retool, especially with his hands tied cap wise, as acceptable or not? A rebuild with no big contracts and with no cap issues will take a long time. A transitional rebuild that Bowman finds himself will not only take longer but will be more difficult to manage. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Because then we can't spend all weekend complaining about the trades he did make!! - LAHawk
We have 2 games we can complain about before then. |
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gifman
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Gifland Joined: 09.17.2015
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*Monday TDL passes and Hawks do nothing*
Stan:
"We really like our team and feel like that we can be Playoff team."
- Savetheembers33
If the Blackhawks don’t make a deal, that’s because they don’t trust Stan to make a deal. Which translates to them firing him soon after. |
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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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When the last time a team rebuilt in 2 seasons? Cause that is the real time frame. |
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Because then we can't spend all weekend complaining about the trades he did make!! - LAHawk
Can't wait to hear all the offers that were on the table and Stan didn't pull the trigger |
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Why not wait until after the TDL to roast Bowman. If a couple of players are still on the team, I will lead the charge. - Elbows15
Bowman has to make a deal. Wouldn't be surprised if it's big. There's no way he comes out of this deadline without making a splash. I believe a previous poster suggested if he doesn't, it would signify he's done. The roster is aging and slow with a limited prospect pool. The goalies saved this team from finishing last with Detroit. That won't happen next year. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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If the Blackhawks don’t make a deal, that’s because they don’t trust Stan to make a deal. Which translates to them firing him soon after. - gifman
Bowman isn't being fired. What business would keep a lame duck exec to make decisions at one of the most crucial times in their business calendar? |
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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Can't wait to hear all the offers that were on the table and Stan didn't pull the trigger - BetweenTheDots
How would you know what offers were on the table? |
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gifman
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Location: Gifland Joined: 09.17.2015
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Bowman isn't being fired. What business would keep a lame duck exec to make decisions at one of the most crucial times in their business calendar? - Elbows15
Fired as in after the TDL not before. |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Bowman isn't being fired. What business would keep a lame duck exec to make decisions at one of the most crucial times in their business calendar? - Elbows15
Obviously a team with a president like McMeddler who knows nothing about hockey! |
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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 11.02.2017
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Fired as in after the TDL not before. - gifman
And replaced with?
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How would you know what offers were on the table? - paulr
Don't you know, everyone here will let me know. |
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If the Blackhawks don’t make a deal, that’s because they don’t trust Stan to make a deal. Which translates to them firing him soon after. - gifman
He'd be gone already then |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Bowman has to make a deal. Wouldn't be surprised if it's big. There's no way he comes out of this deadline without making a splash. I believe a previous poster suggested if he doesn't, it would signify he's done. The roster is aging and slow with a limited prospect pool. The goalies saved this team from finishing last with Detroit. That won't happen next year. - walter34
Bowman needs to make deals that are best for the Hawks' future. No matter the size. He doesn't need to make a splash. He needs to be smart.
4 players over 30. 2 of those are the best players on the team. 9 players under 25. It is hardly an "aging" team. Since Seabs and de Haan aren't playing, I am not counting them for now.
Their prospect pool is pretty much 10-ish according to several evaluations. Prolly be higher if Dach and Boqvist weren't in the NHL.
I wanted them to finish with Detroit this season. Another Top 5 pick is huge for a rebuilding team. |
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