You know what's beyond ironic? We're talking Bealtes and Stones and then you indirectly call me out in another post because you're always beholden to your BS Kool aid narrative.

So who attacked who originally? Wasn't me.
- HawkintheD

Post the attack please.

The only thing I can think of is I called out you, Paul and Mohel because it seems like literally every stinking post you guys roll out is some sort of sarcastic comment about how people are on Bowman's ass. It got old and overdone. So I "called you out", was not offensive, didn't call you a name, but you couldn't take it.

He was very solid. I'm with you. Play him a handful of games and see what you have in him.
- Tyler Cameron

Not timid for his first NHL game, did not look out of place. I agree, would like to see more of him. We have a stockpile of some young Dmen, not all will stay, might as well see what we have before any are moved.

I 100% disagree
- NamedSources

Dach perhaps some day, the others all 4-9 on a cup winner.

You got me. Mohel and HawkND decided to attack. Whatever. It appears any potential (even benign) questions of Bowman (I think my most recent post about Bowman and the TDL is more than fair) has really unhinged them.
- kwolf68

You indirectly name me in two posts essentially calling me a Kool Aid drinker but in a douchier way than you normally would and then throw your hands up and have no idea why me or Mo might take exception.

Get a (frank)ing clue.

You indirectly name me in two posts essentially calling me a Kool Aid drinker but in a douchier way than you normally would and then throw your hands up and have no idea why me or Mo might take exception.

Get a (frank)ing clue.
- HawkintheD

"Essentially calling you a kool aid drinker". I go by what you post and I am sorry dude, but you've been reciting the same poop for a week now. Offering nothing of substance other than snarky comments about poor Bowman getting attacked. We get it, people will complain about Bowman NO MATTER WHAT he does, because people hate him. We get it.

So laughable you got offended at that. LOL.

Carlsson did okay for his 1st game. I rather see him the rest of the season than Seeler/Special K
- Elbows15

Yeah, I thought Carlsson played a good game for his debut. For a rookie he had solid reads and managed gaps decently. Showed he can carry the mail with poise. Not afraid to play the body while not pulling a Gilbert to get out of position to crush someone.

Yeah, I thought Carlsson played a good game for his debut. For a rookie he had solid reads and managed gaps decently. Showed he can carry the mail with poise. Not afraid to play the body while not pulling a Gilbert to get out of position to crush someone.
- AEL_Fox

I just hope he doesn't fade. I thought Gilbert showed progress after a rough start then he seemed to go backward. But yea, Carlsson's play today was pretty encouraging.

Not timid for his first NHL game, did not look out of place. I agree, would like to see more of him. We have a stockpile of some young Dmen, not all will stay, might as well see what we have before any are moved.
- Angotti

Exactly. Give Carlsson another game or so, then see what they have in other D prospects like McCoshen. Guess it depends, too, on what happens with Gustafsson.

Even if he has shows well in a string of games, don't necessarily need to see Carlsson up the rest of what's turning to be a lost season. It will be good competition in September between Carlsson, Gilbert, and others to make the Hawks blueline next season.

I just hope he doesn't fade. I thought Gilbert showed progress after a rough start then he seemed to go backward. But yea, Carlsson's play today was pretty encouraging.
- kwolf68

I agree, Gilbert had his moments but on the balance showed promise. He's a rookie. Carlsson will make his fair share of mistakes just like Boqvist, too. Nonetheless, I love seeing a glimpse of the future blueline.

It is hoped Boqvist is a future cornerstone of the franchise but the team also needs solid players like Gilbert and Carlsson who can deliver at least a few seasons of reliable play then go from there to see if they're mainstays or just placeholders until the next wave of D arrive.

"Essentially calling you a kool aid drinker". I go by what you post and I am sorry dude, but you've been reciting the same poop for a week now. Offering nothing of substance other than snarky comments about poor Bowman getting attacked. We get it, people will complain about Bowman NO MATTER WHAT he does, because people hate him. We get it.

So laughable you got offended at that. LOL.
- kwolf68

Not offended. Just a bit surprised.

Like I said, had a few posts about music where we were in agreement and then was just a bit taken aback to be blindsided about comments about the BS you posted.

You can claim it wasn't an attack but you're not stupid and know the difference. It certainly wasn't a compliment.

You got me. Mohel and HawkND decided to attack. Whatever. It appears any potential (even benign) questions of Bowman (I think my most recent post about Bowman and the TDL is more than fair) has really unhinged them.
- kwolf68

I couldn't let your economics lesson last night slip by without comment, especially after you dragged me into your discussion with Paul. I'm referring to the one where you suggested it would be Stan's fault if no team offered what you believe should be the market for a particular player.

Dach perhaps some day, the others all 4-9 on a cup winner.
- rpeters01

I think Dach will. Kubalik and Dcat can be top six or move up and down through 9. Strome is one I'm not so sure about.

I couldn't let your economics lesson last night slip by without comment, especially after you dragged me into your discussion with Paul. I'm referring to the one where you suggested it would be Stan's fault if no team offered what you believe should be the market for a particular player.
- mohel

Post the comment. I absolutely believe you are embellishing this. But I could be wrong. Post the actual comment instead of saying what I said.

I assume that post has me stating "what he should get" for a player. I'd love to see this.

I think Dach will. Kubalik and Dcat can be top six or move up and down through 9. Strome is one I'm not so sure about.
- NamedSources

and like I said. These young players and the D prospects are nice pieces to build upon. Sign some good free agents to fill out the team and who knows.

Not offended. Just a bit surprised.

Like I said, had a few posts about music where we were in agreement and then was just a bit taken aback to be blindsided about comments about the BS you posted.

You can claim it wasn't an attack but you're not stupid and know the difference. It certainly wasn't a compliment.
- HawkintheD

Are you talking about my post on page 50 of this thread? Because I don't see the real issue with that.

Exactly. Give Carlsson another game or so, then see what they have in other D prospects like McCoshen. Guess it depends, too, on what happens with Gustafsson.

Even if he has shows well in a string of games, don't necessarily need to see Carlsson up the rest of what's turning to be a lost season. It will be good competition in September between Carlsson, Gilbert, and others to make the Hawks blueline next season.
- AEL_Fox

McCoshen is not good.

I think Dach will. Kubalik and Dcat can be top six or move up and down through 9. Strome is one I'm not so sure about.
- NamedSources

Agreed.

I think as dach gets older and more comfortable he’s going to be a beast.

Boqvist majority of the year has been unnoticeable on D which is a good thing

DeBrincat is way Down in shooting percentage. There could be a 5 minute highlight reel at seasons end of posts and goalies pulling saves out of their asses. He will be perfectly ok.

Strome....woof. He’s too slow. He’s noticeably slow where the opposing team resets in the d zone or the hawks have to pull up at the line. If it were me I’d be shopping him over saad. Now what the market would bear for strome I have no clue.

Speaking of which. For the record.

I expect gus and lehner to be gone tomorrow. Lehner bowman mah have to come down in his ask or risk losing for him nothing on 7/1 or getting very little compensation for him at the draft assuming that team Thinks he’s going to resign there. And if 40 is hell bent on testing the market why would he sign before 7/1 if he won’t sign in Chicago?

No clue on what market bears but these are rentals. Now if it’s a guy who is a rfa (strome) or has another year left (saad) I can see bowman asking for the moon. That’s why I don’t expect bowman to deal anyone but 56 and 40.

Everyone needs to take a deep breath. We have what? 20 hours until bowman has time to do something?

Carolina is desperate. They need a goalie. Ryan Miller at this point isn’t much, if any, of an upgrade over what they have.

The amount of crap on twitter is hilarious.

Legit people state things and then 1 minute people rip it off and then pawn it off as there on.

Hearing gus and lehner to Carolina not sure on return.......really?

What a joke.

The hawks have historically had Minimal, if any, leaks. Back on the DH board some guy ran into bowman sr at the barber and heard about hossa. Common sense showed us other possibilities but I have yet to see anyone anywhere nail a guy going and the team he went to and the main part of the return being built around. Ever.

Watching JC post game comments , reinforced in my opinion he should be relieved of his duties. Chicago has 20 games left let Crawford take over and see how the team responds .


JC is way in over his head , he had all summer to assemble a coaching staff ,plan out a system and get his players , physically , mentally and systems ready . He failed on every metric and it took him almost 2 months to figure out his defensive scheme was not working.

It's also clear he has lost the teams confidence , and his tone reflects defeat.

I also found it strange that he couldn't answer a question regarding , Crawford commenting on how is changed things up that seemed to be better. He deferred back to Crawford.

Are you talking about my post on page 50 of this thread? Because I don't see the real issue with that.
- kwolf68

Page 35. If you don't see any issue with that, then I don't know what to tell you. If you wanted to address me head on for said snarky comments, great, but your post is kind of the epitome of being blindsided.

I think Dach will. Kubalik and Dcat can be top six or move up and down through 9. Strome is one I'm not so sure about.
- NamedSources

We don't have 2013 Toews, Hossa and Sharp anywhere in the organization. I'm not even counting Kane. I am hopeful about Dach in 2-3 years he could be a beast appears to have the right stuff under his helmet too.

I didn't realize Johns had been out 22 months with a head ijury. Pat just said he was getting back
- Googlyeyes

Who?

Exactly. Give Carlsson another game or so, then see what they have in other D prospects like McCoshen. Guess it depends, too, on what happens with Gustafsson.

Even if he has shows well in a string of games, don't necessarily need to see Carlsson up the rest of what's turning to be a lost season. It will be good competition in September between Carlsson, Gilbert, and others to make the Hawks blueline next season.
- AEL_Fox

let him keep playing. They are going nowhere at this point, so find out what you have the rest of the season in him. The Hawks have to find a diamond in the rough somewhere; not saying that he is necessarily it, but what if he turned into that? 1-2 game try outs aren't enough at this point.

Who?
- HoldenCaufield

Steven Johns he was a Hawks defenseman prospect that was dealt in the Sharp trade to Dallas irc

Post the comment. I absolutely believe you are embellishing this. But I could be wrong. Post the actual comment instead of saying what I said.

I assume that post has me stating "what he should get" for a player. I'd love to see this.
- kwolf68

It was a whole series of posts - I'm sure you remember - with Paul, me, and perhaps Hawk. I wasn't involved until you included me on your list. The topic was what Stan should get for various players. You were asked several times how Stan would be doing anything wrong if he accepted the best offer out there for Gus. No real answer was given, but you did say if the offers weren't high enough, that would be Stan's fault.