he had chemistry with sobotka

so flip sobotka and johansson

at least then you had a true center



another wasted season
- homiedclown

I think the miscalculation on Johansson kinda slides under the radar but it was quite the misfire.

I still think he'd make a good 3rd line winger with actual offensive upside, but they paid him to be a stop gap 2C and idk that you want to go into the off season planning to have the worlds most expensive bottom six.

when was casey given a shot with them

casey had the most talent


e-rod, sobotka, larsson, asplund


all of those are better options then a winger


the coach went the veino/coho route to start the season, team played well for a dozen games and then he did not want to deviate from it

the last 38 games, the team has the third worst record in the nhl, fact


so because he caught lightning in a bottle, with good special teams to start the season, he should get a pass for being the third worst coach for the last 4 months?

I mean on one hand, everyone says he had nothing to work with

well he did, and he leaned on vets


and if you believe he had nothing to work with, then really the case is made to fire botts and then let the new gm figure out what to do with ralph



three years in, time to stop blaming murray
team is no better now then it was in 16-17
- homiedclown

Good post and yes I see what your saying.

But, casey, erod, sobatka, larrson and asplund
Seriously.....

Casey did this to himself
Sobatka has missed most of the season
Erod - seriously
Larrson has played well at center
Asplund is in Rochester developing , definitely not nhl 2c material this year

usually if you take it to the curb, it's gone within 7 days
- homiedclown

I do believe that is not want and you have to pay for that service through taxes or other means.

Botterill is in a good spot, we have pieces that teams need and cap space in the offaseason
- SABRES 89

he is at the airport with jokinen
- homiedclown

Rico Fata

Trade for Trocheck, thanks.
- TheSabresTaco

Please no

Botterill is in a good spot, we have pieces that teams need and cap space in the offaseason, Jesus Christ that sounds really bad.
- SABRES 89

Turned to the Dark side I see, no I agree with you think he's in a good spot right now.

Look for a Pittsburgh/Buffalo trade.

Good post and yes I see what your saying.

But, casey, erod, sobatka, larrson and asplund
Seriously.....

Casey did this to himself
Sobatka has missed most of the season
Erod - seriously
Larrson has played well at center
Asplund is in Rochester developing , definitely not nhl 2c material this year
- Boss34

Or ever

- buffalofan19

Got the team right where he wants it

Appreciate it !
- Michael Ghofrani

given the bad results for the past decade with this team


is it the players, coaching, gm's or ownership

no matter what they try, it's one step forward and 2 steps back


team seems disinterested
in game adjustments are few and far between
goalies getting shelled and not yanked mid game
gm sits on hands

19 times out of 20 we know the outcome 10 minutes into the game


very frustrating

Look for a Pittsburgh/Buffalo trade.
- ImThatGuy

Theres not one person I like that's available

Theres not one person I like that's available
- gerbe75pts

Nick Bjugstad for Jake McCabe?(Injury kinda kills the deal)

Good to see you on this forum too!
- Michael Ghofrani

I bounce between the two sites, good stuff.

Risto cant carrry a pair and his contract shoudlnt be given to a guy who cant

Good post and yes I see what your saying.

But, casey, erod, sobatka, larrson and asplund
Seriously.....

Casey did this to himself
Sobatka has missed most of the season
Erod - seriously
Larrson has played well at center
Asplund is in Rochester developing , definitely not nhl 2c material this year
- Boss34

the fancy stats, showed decent chemistry with sobotka, and skinner
sobotka is more of a center then johansson


casey has the skills, should have been given a look when the team was slumping in mid november as second line center, if nothing else, to try to save the season


e-rod had over .5 ppg in 17-18 as a center



when the team put up the white flag in mid november, really no lineup adjustments were made, other then dressing 7 d men once sobotka went down

Look for a Pittsburgh/Buffalo trade.
- ImThatGuy

Sheary for a 4th

given the bad results for the past decade with this team


is it the players, coaching, gm's or ownership

no matter what they try, it's one step forward and 2 steps back


team seems disinterested
in game adjustments are few and far between
goalies getting shelled and not yanked mid game
gm sits on hands

19 times out of 20 we know the outcome 10 minutes into the game


very frustrating
- homiedclown

Is part of the failure the gm and what Krueger been dealt?

Lack of talent? Type of player botts acquired?

Cant make soft players har to play against.
Krueger's scratched players to get more out of them

Unlike previous coaches

I think the miscalculation on Johansson kinda slides under the radar but it was quite the misfire.

I still think he'd make a good 3rd line winger with actual offensive upside, but they paid him to be a stop gap 2C and idk that you want to go into the off season planning to have the worlds most expensive bottom six.
- Michael Ghofrani

agreed 100%

given the bad results for the past decade with this team


is it the players, coaching, gm's or ownership

no matter what they try, it's one step forward and 2 steps back


team seems disinterested
in game adjustments are few and far between
goalies getting shelled and not yanked mid game
gm sits on hands

19 times out of 20 we know the outcome 10 minutes into the game


very frustrating
- homiedclown

There isn't much forward thinking in the organization. You look at teams soaring ahead..Carolina, Colorado, Toronto before Andersen had his powers stolen, Arizona, they all flew past the Sabres because they were willing to move on from traditional ideas that weren't working and at the very least explore new ones.

Its been three GMs and what four coaches trying to solve the Ristolainen conundrum? Not to say all the moves have been bad but they've missed out on some pretty good value in the draft, trades and free agency because they seem to have no interest in looking there. I think thats where the change has to start.

the fancy stats, showed decent chemistry with sobotka, and skinner
sobotka is more of a center then johansson


casey has the skills, should have been given a look when the team was slumping in mid november as second line center, if nothing else, to try to save the season


e-rod had over .5 ppg in 17-18 as a center



when the team put up the white flag in mid november, really no lineup adjustments were made, other then dressing 7 d men once sobotka went down
- homiedclown

Botts sat on his hands this year when the team struggled and he sat on his hands last year when the team collapsed

We all watched it go down but big head was too scared to get this team help.

Or ever
- keptupl8

over the line

Sheary for a 4th
- Buff36

One of Sheary/Vesey/Girgensons

There isn't much forward thinking in the organization. You look at teams soaring ahead..Carolina, Colorado, Toronto before Andersen had his powers stolen, Arizona, they all flew past the Sabres because they were willing to move on from traditional ideas that weren't working and at the very least explore new ones.

Its been three GMs and what four coaches trying to solve the Ristolainen conundrum? Not to say all the moves have been bad but they've missed out on some pretty good value in the draft, trades and free agency because they seem to have no interest in looking there. I think thats where the change has to start.
- Michael Ghofrani

nice post

Botts sat on his hands this year when the team struggled and he sat on his hands last year when the team collapsed

We all watched it go down but big head was too scared to get this team help.
- toddkac

frolik was the savior, 2 months too late