Did we get Brad Richards yet?

I guess I'm wrong then. Are his analytics bad this year?
- mhp

Yeah, i mean i get the point you are making about him playing for bad teams. But his stats are bad relative to his own teammates.

The last 15 games or so they've changed Risto's usage (more favourable) and his numbers are still worse than Jokiharju, McCabe and even Montour. That's without factoring in he's got the largest cap hit right now

Krueger cant make a 2c out of thin air.
Moving Johansson to center was the best he could do with what talent he was given.


- Boss34

when was casey given a shot with them

casey had the most talent


e-rod, sobotka, larsson, asplund


all of those are better options then a winger


the coach went the veino/coho route to start the season, team played well for a dozen games and then he did not want to deviate from it

the last 38 games, the team has the third worst record in the nhl, fact


so because he caught lightning in a bottle, with good special teams to start the season, he should get a pass for being the third worst coach for the last 4 months?

I mean on one hand, everyone says he had nothing to work with

well he did, and he leaned on vets


and if you believe he had nothing to work with, then really the case is made to fire botts and then let the new gm figure out what to do with ralph



three years in, time to stop blaming murray
team is no better now then it was in 16-17

They both seem to have better numbers than him right now. Jokiharju has definitely lapped him, they see similar usage and Jokiharju sees less time with the top line than Ristolainen does.
- Michael Ghofrani

Maybe if he wasn't playing with McCabe they might be better?

Botterill is in a good spot, we have pieces that teams need and cap space in the offaseason, Jesus Christ that sounds really bad.

They both seem to have better numbers than him right now. Jokiharju has definitely lapped him, they see similar usage and Jokiharju sees less time with the top line than Ristolainen does.
- Michael Ghofrani

.. And no PP time. Risto is simply below average in his own end and no one has been able to show otherwise. Four coaches, same performance.

Yeah, i mean i get the point you are making about him playing for bad teams. But his stats are bad relative to his own teammates.

The last 15 games or so they've changed Risto's usage (more favourable) and his numbers are still worse than Jokiharju, McCabe and even Montour. That's without factoring in he's got the largest cap hit right now
- Michael Ghofrani

Gotcha thanks Mike.

They both seem to have better numbers than him right now. Jokiharju has definitely lapped him, they see similar usage and Jokiharju sees less time with the top line than Ristolainen does.
- Michael Ghofrani

yet when the game is on the line
risto is on the ice

esp when having to hold a lead

ill have part 3 with actual names/targets out soon, if only cause im worried half will be traded if i sit on it too long
- Michael Ghofrani

Good write up Mike, thank you 👍

Did we get Brad Richards yet?
- keptupl8

he is at the airport with jokinen

Maybe if he wasn't playing with McCabe they might be better?
- mhp

His numbers are actually at their best with McCabe. His usage is the core issue. His numbers were lights out with dahlin in sheltered minutes, but you can't be paying someone 5.4 million for that.

Or, it was not offered to Botts.

There are other possibilities than Botts being an idiot, sucking, sitting on his hands.

He traded ROR for something he thought was right but was not. Perhaps he has learned from his mistake?

There just could be other reasons that NONE of know of.
- TC4145

Good post

Yeah, i mean i get the point you are making about him playing for bad teams. But his stats are bad relative to his own teammates.

The last 15 games or so they've changed Risto's usage (more favourable) and his numbers are still worse than Jokiharju, McCabe and even Montour. That's without factoring in he's got the largest cap hit right now
- Michael Ghofrani

Calgary stopped pursuing him because of this. Per Friedman.

Botterill is in a good spot, we have pieces that teams need and cap space in the offaseason, Jesus Christ that sounds really bad.
- SABRES 89

plan the parade

His numbers are actually at their best with McCabe. His usage is the core issue. His numbers were lights out with dahlin in sheltered minutes, but you can't be paying someone 5.4 million for that.
- Michael Ghofrani

but you can play a 9 million dollar 40 goal scorer with crap as his center

Trade for Trocheck, thanks.

Botterill is in a good spot, we have pieces that teams need and cap space in the offaseason, Jesus Christ that sounds really bad.
- SABRES 89

No one wants our garbage

but you can play a 9 million dollar 40 goal scorer with crap as his center



- homiedclown

Lol, i really wish they'd give Skinner and Larsson a longer look. They compliment each other so well

Calgary stopped pursuing him because of this. Per Friedman.
- TheSabresTaco

translation

we will give you sam bennett for risto

And he clarified on the Instigators and said his value isn't as much down as it is Buffalo is asking too much for him.
- mhp

Serious offer only. No tire kickers. I know what I have

Two Froliks or b/o

Good write up Mike, thank you 👍
- Boss34

Appreciate it !

Lol, i really wish they'd give Skinner and Larsson a longer look. They compliment each other so well
- Michael Ghofrani

he had chemistry with sobotka

so flip sobotka and johansson

at least then you had a true center



another wasted season

No one wants our garbage
- toddkac

usually if you take it to the curb, it's gone within 7 days

Gotcha thanks Mike.
- mhp

Good to see you on this forum too!

Lots of reports floating around multiple teams backed away from Risto because he is terrible....