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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:40 AM ET
How bad was the injury
- sbroads24


Lower leg, you can hear him scream.



He only ended up missing 17 games, but did not have a good year.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Feb 21 @ 2:41 AM ET
Dreger’s motivation to support Botterill and get Botts’ message out to the fans is so that Botts will continue to give him scoops like “Sabres expected to place Bogosian on waivers today.”

Botterill’s motivation to say he is trying to make trades but can’t find a partner is to defend his inaction. He’s scared to make a move because almost every move he makes is bad. He is obviously not able to negotiate a decent trade and the other GMs smell the blood in the water. Also, based on his reaction to the Ottowa loss he is still hoping to win this year, and doesn’t want to sell because he feels his job is on the line. So he has to appease the angry fan base by acting like he is trying to do what he should be doing when he can’t get it done while at the same time he secretly is hoping some stroke of luck will get this team in the playoffs so he can keep his job.

CTE symptoms include:

Difficulty thinking (cognitive impairment)

Difficulty planning and carrying out tasks (executive function)

It seems to me the guy isn’t thinking straight and can’t carry out the tasks of a GM. Am I wrong?

How you can say that Botts saying things to try to appease the fans and owners so that he can keep his job makes no sense?

- Beethoven

youre (frank)ed.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 2:41 AM ET
Lower leg, you can hear him scream.



He only ended up missing 17 games, but did not have a good year.

- Wetbandit1

He’s been hurt a decent amount too.

Still would love to add him
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 2:42 AM ET
McCabe 2020 1st and Asplund for Meier
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:42 AM ET
You do realize that Dreger’s source is Botterill himself right? It’s like listening to what the White House press secretary is saying about the president and acting like it’s objective reporting.
- Beethoven


U don’t have a clue if that’s true
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:44 AM ET
Give it a rest already. Botts, the Pegula's and Krueger could dive head first into the Falls and would have more knowledge than you do about hockey and running a business.


- adambuffalo


Amazing
Post of the year
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:45 AM ET
McCabe 2020 1st and Asplund for Meier
- sbroads24


Ppl need to stop trading our top10 pick
It’s basically untouchable
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:48 AM ET
Ppl need to stop trading our top10 pick
It’s basically untouchable

- jdfitz77


If it's after 5 I'm 100% trading that package for Meier. A guy who is actually good, right now, for a guy who may or may not be good likely 3 years from now.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 7:07 AM ET
Have them play against Matthews, McDavid, Crosby, etc every night, most shifts and they will be undressed and exposed right now. I hope the Sabres do trade Risto and this happens. I will sit back and laugh
- GilPerreault11


Just to give you an idea, even when he has the puck in his own zone, he's bad at transition. Competition is mostly irrelevant in this scenario.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:25 AM ET
It’s whether he pulls the trigger.

If we believe what we hear from LeBrun and Dreger etc. he’s not getting legit offers for the D men.

So can we get mad that he’s not making a bad trade?

- sbroads24


At what point should a GM realize that the value HE has placed on his own players is too high?
We have heard this same issue relative to Kane, to ROR, and to Risto in the past 2 seasons.
The narrative that he is in a bad spot and other GM's know it and are low-balling him is old and tired...not to mention of his own doing if true.

I said it back in July that people will have a heart attack at the return when the young, 6'4", tough, mobile, offensively capable RhD is traded.

Maybe, just maybe the value from 30 other GMs is more accurate.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:42 AM ET
Ppl need to stop trading our top10 pick
It’s basically untouchable

- jdfitz77


Why?
If it gets you a true 2C, go for it...I'd hate losing it, but for the right guy I'd be ok with it.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:47 AM ET
Why?
If it gets you a true 2C, go for it...I'd hate losing it, but for the right guy I'd be ok with it.

- IonSabres


Correct. Which is not bjustead.

But bjustead will be a Sabre using the great and powerful sheary to acquire his services.

#bjusteadwatch2020.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 21 @ 7:54 AM ET
Ppl need to stop trading our top10 pick
It’s basically untouchable

- jdfitz77

casey and nylander proves this wrong


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:55 AM ET
https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

40 years ago tomorrow.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 21 @ 7:59 AM ET
https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

40 years ago tomorrow.

- kingcong39

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:59 AM ET
As far as a multiple player trade with the Flames involving Gradeau...I'd much prefer to use those assets to acquire a 2C...but if I had to make the deal, then I'd want to unload Skinner, get a very solid prospect rather than a "meh" player, and need to get a 1st back this year...else, no deal.
So
Skinner, Risto, 2020-1st
for
Gradeau, Pellitier, 2020-1st

$9m for Skinner is about $1.5m too much, we all knew it was an overpayment.
Now, if they acquire Gradeau and retain Mojo and Olo, they should look to off-load their costly player at the position and NOT create yet another hole to fill.

Pellitier will be a nice 2LW, maybe even grow into 1LW...Flames will push-back, but F'em....Sabres don't need to acquire a LW and the value difference between say Skinner and Gradeau is far, far less than the value gained by using those assets to acquire a true 2C over the likes of Mojo, Lazar, Larsson, Erod...right? Right.

Let's stop playing the patsy for every other GM.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Feb 21 @ 8:03 AM ET
casey and nylander proves this wrong



- homiedclown


I would trade it in a package in a HEARTBEAT to get a real, Bona fide, 2c! Not a wing converting to c. Not an unproven 3c, Who might be able to make the jump. Not bjustead. An actual 2c and that pick is gone.


I would not do it for a 2RW.

Bjustead will be traded for sheary and he will be our 2c. It’s the botts way.

#bjusteadwatch2020
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 21 @ 8:10 AM ET
I would trade it in a package in a HEARTBEAT to get a real, Bona fide, 2c! Not a wing converting to c. Not an unproven 3c, Who might be able to make the jump. Not bjustead. An actual 2c and that pick is gone.


I would not do it for a 2RW.

Bjustead will be traded for sheary and he will be our 2c. It’s the botts way.

#bjusteadwatch2020

- Gr8daygo

risto, and casey for an extended Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

throw in borgen or davidsson if needed
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 8:10 AM ET
Didn’t back read-
Risto for Trocheck. Why is this a hard decision?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 21 @ 8:12 AM ET
casey and nylander proves this wrong



- homiedclown


correction any pick outside the top 2 proves this wrong
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 21 @ 8:14 AM ET
correction any pick outside the top 2 proves this wrong
- hubie


Murray couldn’t even get one of those right.
Up2nuthun
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 04.01.2013

Feb 21 @ 8:17 AM ET
Am i the only one that thinks Casey will be a very good top 6 player in the NHL? Why is everyone packaging him in a trade to ship him out of buffalo? He's young and still learning how to play without the puck in Krueger's system
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 21 @ 8:18 AM ET
Murray couldn’t even get one of those right.
- Pegullaville

atleast they are nhl players
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 21 @ 8:19 AM ET
Am i the only one that thinks Casey will be a very good top 6 player in the NHL? Why is everyone packaging him in a trade to ship him out of buffalo? He's young and still learning how to play without the puck in Krueger's system
- Up2nuthun

fat
lazy
unmotivated
coke
video games
brings his toys on the road
stinks


pick one
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 21 @ 8:19 AM ET
Am i the only one that thinks Casey will be a very good top 6 player in the NHL? Why is everyone packaging him in a trade to ship him out of buffalo? He's young and still learning how to play without the puck in Krueger's system
- Up2nuthun


His 100 plus games played you tell you otherwise.
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