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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:23 PM ET
mark steyn just said everyone that watched the debate last night had to sign a non disclosure on bloomberg


that's funny
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 20 @ 8:24 PM ET
3-0 Leafs. Maybe our GM will finally agree that the playoff chances are gone.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:24 PM ET
Which ever one Eichel picks.
- SABRES 89

arrowhead it is
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 8:24 PM ET
https://www.espn.com/nhl/team/stats/_/name/nsh/table/team/sort/timeOnIcePerGame/dir/desc


it's more like a 2 A, B and C for their top 3 centers

- homiedclown


That’s fine
I’ll stop calling him the 1C

But here’s the thing
He’s clearly in their top6 in an offensive role
And only 33pts, at an 8mil cap hit

That’s the reason he’s supposedly available
Isn’t that a huge red flag
And crazy risky with his Cap hit & 6yrs left??
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:24 PM ET
3-0 Leafs. Maybe our GM will finally agree that the playoff chances are gone.
- Lilroot9

they dead
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 20 @ 8:24 PM ET
Scandella wearing #6 for the Blues.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:26 PM ET
That’s fine
I’ll stop calling him the 1C

But here’s the thing
He’s clearly in their top6 in an offensive role
And only 33pts, at an 8mil cap hit

That’s the reason he’s supposedly available
Isn’t that a huge red flag
And crazy risky with his Cap hit & 6yrs left??

- jdfitz77

they do play a defensive first system, like the kings when they won their cups so the numbers are down a bit from a more offensive friendly system


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 8:26 PM ET
Why do you people continually want 3rd and 4th line players on this team and think we will make the playoffs. Sam Bennett another scrub. We have enough scrub players.
- SABRES 89


Why do u want an $8mil player who has 33pts?

ONE POINT LESS than the supposed “scrub”
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 20 @ 8:28 PM ET
Why do u want an $8mil player who has 33pts?

ONE POINT LESS than the supposed “scrub”

- jdfitz77

He's a 1 or 2 center that Skinner needs, that's why. Not Bonino that couldn't make it as the number 2 center on the Pens.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:30 PM ET
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 8:30 PM ET
they do play a defensive first system, like the kings when they won their cups so the numbers are down a bit from a more offensive friendly system
- homiedclown


This isn’t a new system for them

And even if it was...
Johansen has 33pts playing with better linemates and a 56% ozone start

How does the “system” explain Bonino, with worse linemates and no PP time having more points with only 36% ozone starts??

It would be 1 thing if RyJo had 33even strength points & Bonino had 23...
but it’s the other way around!!!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:31 PM ET
This isn’t a new system for them

!!

- jdfitz77

they have been defensive first well before they got him for jones
Brochilldude
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.13.2020

Feb 20 @ 8:31 PM ET
If we were buying low on Johansen,
AND
he didn’t have 6yrs left at that 8mil cap hit,
then i could get with it
But that’s too risky imo
Way too risky

- jdfitz77


Contingent on buying low, agreed. But getting a pass first playmaking center to pair with a finisher like skinner would go a long way in helping to provide that consistent secondary scoring that this team desperately needs. Waiting for one to develop while employing a stop gap is risky too albeit in a different way.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 20 @ 8:32 PM ET
The Arizona Coyotes won't dress Michael Grabner on Thursday night against the St. Louis Blues.
This will mark his 11th straight game in the press box. Vinnie Hinostroza will join him as a scratch.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 8:33 PM ET
He's a 1 or 2 center that Skinner needs, that's why. Not Bonino that couldn't make it as the number 2 center on the Pens.
- SABRES 89


Do u consider 33pts “making it” though?
Or do u think Johansen is a 70point player here?

Maybe that’s where we are getting mixed up?
Bc I’m just looking at what he’s doing NOW,
not what he MIGHT do with Skinner

Could he be good with Skinner?
It’s possible
But i don’t like the risk with his contract,
especially with him being bashed for lack of effort this year
It’s too risky for me
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:33 PM ET
This isn’t a new system for them

And even if it was...
Johansen has 33pts playing with better linemates and a 56% ozone start

How does the “system” explain Bonino, with worse linemates and no PP time having more points with only 36% ozone starts??

It would be 1 thing if RyJo had 33even strength points & Bonino had 23...
but it’s the other way around!!!

- jdfitz77

we are not getting either

Carl Soderberg will be the savior july 1st
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 8:34 PM ET
they have been defensive first well before they got him for jones
- homiedclown


Right
And he’s been better in the past

And he’s still being outproduced by the clear 3C in their system

And we play a defensive system too
SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:34 PM ET
we are not getting either

Carl Soderberg will be the savior july 1st

- homiedclown

Johan Larsson will be
SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:35 PM ET
I would have signed Vanek over trading for Frolic.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 8:35 PM ET

And we play a defensive system too

- jdfitz77

Botts lied

he said upbeat north south system


I want my money back for nhl package


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 8:36 PM ET
Contingent on buying low, agreed. But getting a pass first playmaking center to pair with a finisher like skinner would go a long way in helping to provide that consistent secondary scoring that this team desperately needs. Waiting for one to develop while employing a stop gap is risky too albeit in a different way.
- Brochilldude


And what if they don’t have chemistry?

Ppl are acting like they’re a perfect for just bc he’s a pass first guy
We don’t know if they’ll work together or not
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 20 @ 8:36 PM ET
The Arizona Coyotes won't dress Michael Grabner on Thursday night against the St. Louis Blues.
This will mark his 11th straight game in the press box. Vinnie Hinostroza will join him as a scratch.

- SABRES 89


I'd definitely inquire about him. Cheap RFA and theres upside there
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 20 @ 8:37 PM ET
Botts lied

he said upbeat north south system


I want my money back for nhl package

- homiedclown

So do I, everytime I watch the Sabres on 635-1 the picture constantly skips and jumps.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Feb 20 @ 8:37 PM ET
we are not getting either

Carl Soderberg will be the savior july 1st

- homiedclown


You mean bjustead when we send sheary for him...
SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:37 PM ET
I'd definitely inquire about him. Cheap RFA and theres upside there
- jcragcrumple

Another 3rd line player we don't need.
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