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SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
Seth Jones could get a heck of a lot more than Ryan Johansen at this point.
- Pegullaville

opinions vary
homiedclown
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Feb 20 @ 8:10 PM ET
Warren for Commander?
- IonSabres

she done
jdfitz77
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Feb 20 @ 8:11 PM ET
That combined with Fiala for Granlund and Girard for Turris is main examples on why trades to “win now” more often than not blow up in your face.

When Poille is unemployed in a few months he’ll have a lot of time to mull those over.
- Pegullaville


At least he pulled off Forsberg for Erat
But yeah... the Preds are fading fast
SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:11 PM ET
she done
- homiedclown

I'm having a hard time seeing Ryan Johansen with all the cup banners we have hanging in the rafters.
Pegullaville
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Feb 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
I'm having a hard time seeing Ryan Johansen with all the cup banners we have hanging in the rafters.
- SABRES 89


Preds are having a hard time seeing the playoffs with his as their 1C.
jdfitz77
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Feb 20 @ 8:14 PM ET
opinions vary
- SABRES 89


Jones (a defenseman) has 3 less points than Johansen who’s playing 1C

It’s not even arguable
jdfitz77
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Feb 20 @ 8:15 PM ET
I'm having a hard time seeing Ryan Johansen with all the cup banners we have hanging in the rafters.
- SABRES 89


Same from his time in Nashville and Columbus,
Right??
SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:15 PM ET
Preds are having a hard time seeing the playoffs with his as their 1C.
- Pegullaville

Try again, he's not the number 1, Preds are hands down a better team then the Sabres. you are arguing just to argue you clown.
SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:16 PM ET
Same from his time in Nashville and Columbus,
Right??

- jdfitz77

Bonino is a scrub, we have enough of them
homiedclown
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Feb 20 @ 8:16 PM ET
Jones (a defenseman) has 3 less points than Johansen who’s playing 1C

It’s not even arguable

- jdfitz77

he's not their number 1 center though
Boss34
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Feb 20 @ 8:16 PM ET
gotta have something for a goalie, best pitcher

jerry rice's record


and something for bobby orr

- homiedclown



That's why passing tds is lower . Not sure if I can really point at one nfl record. Rice, Marino, emmitt

Goals
Points in nba
Homeruns

All individual achievements

Most wins by a pitcher?
Brochilldude
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Feb 20 @ 8:17 PM ET
IF he bounces back
If he just lacks heart, effort & consistency and that’s led to his underperforming

If you could really “buy low” on him,
then maybe it’s worth the gamble

But it makes more sense to me to get a cheaper placeholder who’s still decent, or even good
And devote that $$$ to a RW like Hoffman or Dadonov (just for example) that consistently plays well

- jdfitz77


Yeah that's reasonable. Ultimately I guess it just depends on how confident botterill is that cozens or casey will become that 2c within 2-3 years.

The problem is that hope is not a strategy, id argue that he needs to be sure. If not then I'd look hard at taking a calculated risk to sacrifice potential for a proven playmaker.
Pegullaville
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Feb 20 @ 8:18 PM ET
Try again, he's not the number 1, Preds are hands down a better team then the Sabres. you are arguing just to argue you clown.
- SABRES 89


Mojo is on pace for 39 points over 82 games.

Johansen is on pace for 45 points over 82 games.

But yea he’s gonna save us with his $8M salary.
jdfitz77
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Feb 20 @ 8:18 PM ET
Try again, he's not the number 1, Preds are hands down a better team then the Sabres. you are arguing just to argue you clown.
- SABRES 89


This has him as their 1C
https://www.dailyfaceoff....dators/line-combinations/

He gets slightly more icetime than Duchene
So fine,
let’s just call them 1a & 1b

However u wanna phrase it,
he’s got 33pts
And that’s 1 point less than Bonino (the 3C)
homiedclown
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Feb 20 @ 8:18 PM ET
That's why passing tds is lower . Not sure if I can really point at one nfl record. Rice, Marino, emmitt

Goals
Points in nba
Homeruns

All individual achievements

Most wins by a pitcher?

- Boss34

pitcher is tough

wins
strikeouts
saves
cy youngs


I hate the yankees


but Mariano Rivera is one of the best athletes I have ever seen
jdfitz77
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Feb 20 @ 8:19 PM ET
he's not their number 1 center though
- homiedclown


How are u determining that?
homiedclown
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Feb 20 @ 8:19 PM ET
This has him as their 1C
https://www.dailyfaceoff....dators/line-combinations/

He gets slightly more icetime than Duchene
So fine,
let’s just call them 1a & 1b

However u wanna phrase it,
he’s got 33pts
And that’s 1 point less than Bonino (the 3C)

- jdfitz77

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...timeOnIcePerGame/dir/desc


it's more like a 2 A, B and C for their top 3 centers


SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:20 PM ET
Mojo is on pace for 39 points over 82 games.

Johansen is on pace for 45 points over 82 games.

But yea he’s gonna save us with his $8M salary.

- Pegullaville

Yea and Nick Bonino will take us to another golf course the Sabres haven't been to yet after we miss the playoffs for another year.
jdfitz77
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Feb 20 @ 8:20 PM ET
Bonino is a scrub, we have enough of them
- SABRES 89


Do we have enough 1 dimensional guys who are overpriced & underperforming?
Bc that’s what Johansen is doing

I’m not trying to fight with you
I really just don’t get why ppl like him so much?
SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:20 PM ET
How are u determining that?
- jdfitz77

He's not, Duchene is.
homiedclown
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Feb 20 @ 8:21 PM ET
How are u determining that?
- jdfitz77

Forsberg plays with Duchene

SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:22 PM ET
Do we have enough 1 dimensional guys who are overpriced & underperforming?
Bc that’s what Johansen is doing

I’m not trying to fight with you
I really just don’t get why ppl like him so much?

- jdfitz77

Why do you people continually want 3rd and 4th line players on this team and think we will make the playoffs. Sam Bennett another scrub. We have enough scrub players.
jdfitz77
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Feb 20 @ 8:22 PM ET
Yeah that's reasonable. Ultimately I guess it just depends on how confident botterill is that cozens or casey will become that 2c within 2-3 years.

The problem is that hope is not a strategy, id argue that he needs to be sure. If not then I'd look hard at taking a calculated risk to sacrifice potential for a proven playmaker.

- Brochilldude


If we were buying low on Johansen,
AND
he didn’t have 6yrs left at that 8mil cap hit,
then i could get with it
But that’s too risky imo
Way too risky
homiedclown
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Feb 20 @ 8:22 PM ET
Yea and Nick Bonino will take us to another golf course the Sabres haven't been to yet after we miss the playoffs for another year.
- SABRES 89

willowbrook or tan tara?


SABRES 89
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Feb 20 @ 8:23 PM ET
willowbrook or tan tara?
- homiedclown

Which ever one Eichel picks.
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