Boss34
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Can one of Skinner, VO, or JG play on the right? You and I have gone at it about Sam, but if it's him and not a ton more fore JG, I wouldn't think twice about it. - SDSabre
I'm really not sure? I did find your post humorous with building on one side though 🙂
Wonder if it would include a couple more players too?
Calgary needs a rw1 and a rw in general.
Buddy Robinson is listed as there top scoring rw on nhl?
Maybe I read it wrong?
Sam would play with tkachuk I would imagine. Give him some working room
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If we ever got Johnny hockey it would be one of the biggest trades in Sabres history imo
But it will never happen - gerbe75pts
Hasek May have something to say about that... or LaFontaine... or some of the older guys might have one or two.
But it’d be solid.... but never happen... |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Clearly he's insert player here. - SDSabre
Johansson swede? |
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John Wawrow
@john_wawrow
Curious as to what the cost might be for a team to land Vincent Trocheck from the #FloridaPanthers.
Wawrow usually doesn't post things like this unless he knows something - Stripes77
He’d be a great add!!!
Jack
Torcheck
Bjustead
Lazar or Larry
Down the middle would solve a lot of problems... |
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Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Hasek May have something to say about that... or LaFontaine... or some of the older guys might have one or two.
But it’d be solid.... but never happen... - Gr8daygo
I was going to hammer jr here but he did say one of the...
At the time the Hasek to Buffalo trade wasn't viewed as a big thing
But LaFontaine certainly was
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SDSabre
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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I'm really not sure? I did find your post humorous with building on one side though 🙂
Wonder if it would include a couple more players too?
Calgary needs a rw1 and a rw in general.
Buddy Robinson is listed as there top scoring rw on nhl?
Maybe I read it wrong?
Sam would play with tkachuk I would imagine. Give him some working room - Boss34
Sam, Risto, 2nd for JG and B prospect. Don't know what their cap is. Prolly not near enough, but whatever. I don't usually come up with these as I have no clue. |
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Johansson swede? - Boss34
So is Dahlin and Pilut... 😏 |
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SDSabre
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Johansson swede? - Boss34
I forgot VO in my lineup. But left RW1 open. So there he goes. |
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I was going to hammer jr here but he did say one of the...
At the time the Hasek to Buffalo trade wasn't viewed as a big thing
But LaFontaine certainly was - Stripes77
True but I couldn’t resist.... lol. |
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I was going to hammer jr here but he did say one of the...
At the time the Hasek to Buffalo trade wasn't viewed as a big thing
But LaFontaine certainly was - Stripes77
Bob Corkum TDL pickup? |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Risto, Sheary, Prospect for RyJo
Reinhart, Girgensons, 2nd rd pick for Johnny Hockey
JG - ECHL - VO
Skinner - RyJo - Johansson
Thompson - Larsson - Asplund
UM?
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I was going to hammer jr here but he did say one of the...
At the time the Hasek to Buffalo trade wasn't viewed as a big thing
But LaFontaine certainly was - Stripes77
Good post
La la was a bonafide nhl star.
Sneaky pete 1st overall
That was franchise changing |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Sam, Risto, 2nd for JG and B prospect. Don't know what their cap is. Prolly not near enough, but whatever. I don't usually come up with these as I have no clue. - SDSabre
Guy on the Calgary site said
Rhino, Risto 20201st for
Johnny G, Janikowski and 2021 2nd |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Risto, Sheary, Prospect for RyJo
Reinhart, Girgensons, 2nd rd pick for Johnny Hockey
JG - ECHL - VO
Skinner - RyJo - Johansson
Thompson - Larsson - Asplund
UM? - ImThatGuy
No thanks on RyJo
Not at that cap hit |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Good post
La la was a bonafide nhl star.
Sneaky pete 1st overall
That was franchise changing - Boss34
What could have been had LaFontaine not gotten those concussions
We steam roll in 99 for the Cup |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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Guy on the Calgary site said
Rhino, Risto 20201st for
Johnny G, Janikowski and 2021 2nd - Buff36
I know JG is amazing, but I'd be hesitant to give up Sam + the 2020 first. That's just me though. Could be talked into it. |
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No thanks on RyJo
Not at that cap hit - Stripes77
I’d say, in my uneducated opinion, Torckeck is the better target! |
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Well written blog, again. Too bad the sabres are so bad I am avoiding most of my usual hockey reading.
I'm going to throw down a bit of a run on post that you should all just ignore, mostly for therapeutic reasons...
Everything in the NHL should be thought of as an asset. A pick is a high return, high risk investment that takes 2-4 years to mature. Exception is a top ten pick, which is a relatively low risk, high return, investment that starts paying off in 0-3 years usually.
A prospect is a lower risk, lower return investment that starts paying dividends in a similar time frame to a top ten pick.
A roster player is an investment that pays dividends now, basically. Cap space is just a roster player in disguise. Having 5 million is cap space is better than having a 5 million dollar roster player if you can get a better free agent for 5 million. That simple. Most people forget that when the Bruins traded a premium asset like Thornton, the biggest asset they got back was 7 million in cap space, a portion of which became Savard.
The problem with Botteril is the same as Murray, he mismanages assets. Simple. Murray did great liquidating his assets into picks, but when it cam time to convert the picks back into prospects or roster players, he either made poor trades or bad draft picks. It wasn't the actual trading away of picks that was the problem, it was the poor returns.
With Botteril, how many times does he need to mismanage an asset before it becomes too painfully obvious he's not good at this?
1. Scandella, traded for a fourth, goes for a 2nd and a 4th the same year.
2. OReilly, nuff said.
3. Skinner - good trade, but in less than a year he managed to A) Not resign him after the trade and wait to see how the season went, B)inflate Skinner's value by playing him all season with Eichel, C) overpay him to keep him, wasting a valuable 1-2 million cap space, an ASSET, and finally D) stop playing him with Eichel, so his value plummets. In one year he managed to turn a young, affordable goal scorer into a 9 million dollar dead weight.
4. Risto - he has held this asset forever, and the value of the asset has dropped basically every year. I doubt he even brings in a top six forward now, where 2 years ago he would have brought in a major piece.
5. Evander Kane
6. Mittelstadt - an 8th round pick has to be big for you, and it's not just the draft pick being a bust, it's how he was managed that many rightly feel ruined him.
7. Hunwick and Sheary.
8. Reinhart, should have been signed long term for 5-7 million, instead will be our next overpaid player
Enough is enough.
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ImThatGuy
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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No thanks on RyJo
Not at that cap hit - Stripes77
Hes so damn good though.
Hes a 70 point center with Skinner. |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Sam, Risto, 2nd for JG and B prospect. Don't know what their cap is. Prolly not near enough, but whatever. I don't usually come up with these as I have no clue. - SDSabre
Jg is making 6,750,000 I believe.
Probably around Sam's next contract would be?
We would have the room to take on the extra $.
Johnny only has 14 goals and they are battling for the last spot.
Interesting adding montour, mccabe or risto.
Salary would probably need to be worked out if its risto |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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I know JG is amazing, but I'd be hesitant to give up Sam + the 2020 first. That's just me though. Could be talked into it. - SDSabre
Think the 1st, cause Janikowski could slot right into 3C |
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ImThatGuy
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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I’d say, in my uneducated opinion, Torckeck is the better target! - Gr8daygo
Hes also going to cost you a hell of a lot more. And we don't even know if hes truly available. |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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What could have been had LaFontaine not gotten those concussions
We steam roll in 99 for the Cup - Stripes77
La la was as likeable as any buffalo sports star.
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Think the 1st, cause Janikowski could slot right into 3C - Buff36
Would you be willing to swap 1st's? Assuming ours is higher? Maybe 2021 1st from calgary if they miss the playoffs? |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Would you be willing to swap 1st's? Assuming ours is higher? Maybe 2021 1st from calgary if they miss the playoffs? - Boss34
This proposal came from a guy on the Calgary site, I was over there seeing about Bennett. They came up with this one |
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