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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
The Pittsburgh Penguins have acquired Phil Varone from Montreal.
Varone has four goals and 14 points in 27 AHL games this season. The 29-year-old forward has 97 career NHL games under his belt.


OH MY

- SABRES 89


PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
Last thing I would do is throw Cozens in next year, let him progress more.
- SABRES 89

I hope Botterill shares this notion. Although he may be more physically ready than Mitzy to play that position, let’s not find out.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
Just.... claim him.
- TheSabresTaco

Why not, we couldn't score on him either.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
Call the Preds give them Risto for Ryan Johansen
- SABRES 89


That'd be.. something else.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 20 @ 2:31 PM ET
Why not, we couldn't score on him either.
- SABRES 89


We lit his universe up last time we played him.

He Trashy McStyrofoam.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
We lit his universe up last time we played him.

He Trashy McStyrofoam.

- TheSabresTaco

He’ll fit right in!
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
We lit his universe up last time we played him.

He Trashy McStyrofoam.

- TheSabresTaco

Perfect, we will take him.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
We lit his universe up last time we played him.

He Trashy McStyrofoam.

- TheSabresTaco


Lemon meringue > louis domingue
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 2:37 PM ET
after 12 games, the sabres have the third worst record in the nhl for the last 38 games
- homiedclown


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
Lemon meringue > louis domingue
- jcragcrumple


You can probably say that about 75% of the Sabres roster.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 20 @ 2:50 PM ET

- jdfitz77

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 20 @ 3:01 PM ET
Paxton get's hurt a lot and i've never been a fan of Tanaka.
- SABRES 89

Yeah Paxton's back has been a problem for awhile, Tanaka is good at playoff time
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 20 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yeah Paxton's back has been a problem for awhile, Tanaka is good at playoff time
- Buff36

hiroshi kamikaze tanaka?
33eagle
Joined: 02.23.2015

Feb 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
Why in the world would we want Louis Domingue? Crazy talk.

As for Cirelli, Tampa not letting him go. Will make room in offseason to sign him. Guys like Gourde, Maroon, and even Johnson or Palat will go out the door to make room for his signing new deal He, Point and Sergachev the young nucleus to follow Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. Doesn't that make you sick to read? Such a well constructed team compared to poope show in Buffalo. Every guy listed above, even the ones they will move out would be dramatic upgrade to Sabres roster.

Don't believe in "the process", but do believe in stability. GM JB should get more time. Every GM whiffs on some hits on some. My major concern is that there doesn't seem be a willingness to be bold to remake the organization. Constant turn over at GM and coach is not going to make it better if you just bring in more of the same.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 20 @ 3:13 PM ET
Why in the world would we want Louis Domingue? Crazy talk.

As for Cirelli, Tampa not letting him go. Will make room in offseason to sign him. Guys like Gourde, Maroon, and even Johnson or Palat will go out the door to make room for his signing new deal He, Point and Sergachev the young nucleus to follow Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman. Doesn't that make you sick to read? Such a well constructed team compared to poope show in Buffalo. Every guy listed above, even the ones they will move out would be dramatic upgrade to Sabres roster.

Don't believe in "the process", but do believe in stability. GM JB should get more time. Every GM whiffs on some hits on some. My major concern is that there doesn't seem be a willingness to be bold to remake the organization. Constant turn over at GM and coach is not going to make it better if you just bring in more of the same.

- 33eagle


We don't, and I don't

I was simply expressing, if a team wants him, they can grab him for free without having to make a trade because he's on waivers.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
Guys like Gourde, Maroon, and even Johnson or Palat will go out the door to make room for his signing new deal

- 33eagle

And why would Gourde, Johnson and/ or Palat agree to a trade? Leave a team as good as Tampa and likely taking a pay cut because of the state tax differential. 6, 5 and 3 years remaining on their respective contracts.

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 20 @ 3:20 PM ET
We don't, and I don't

I was simply expressing, if a team wants him, they can grab him for free without having to make a trade because he's on waivers.

- TheSabresTaco

But then they have to keep him up with the big club for a while before they can send him down. A team like Colorado looking for an insurance goalie wants a guy they can call up in an emergency, not a guy for their roster today.

Edit: he was last traded for a conditional 7th round pick, not a huge cost to trade for.
33eagle
Joined: 02.23.2015

Feb 20 @ 3:23 PM ET
And why would Gourde, Johnson and/ or Palat agree to a trade? Leave a team as good as Tampa and likely taking a pay cut because of the state tax differential. 6, 5 and 3 years remaining on their respective contracts.
- adambuffalo


They don't have to "agree to trades". Not every player in league has NT clause in contract. Where did you get idea that players have say as to where and when they get traded? For the most part only top end guys with leverage (See Unrestricted) in negotiations get that protection. Out of those, would guess only Johnson may have. Sure as the sun comes up, guys are getting moved to make room for Cirelli, Bringing in Coleman with another year at $1.8 already makes Gourde a sure goner in offseason.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
when was casey given a shot with them

casey had the most talent


e-rod, sobotka, larsson, asplund


all of those are better options then a winger



the coach went the veino/coho route to start the season, team played well for a dozen games and then he did not want to deviate from it

the last 38 games, the team has the third worst record in the nhl, fact


so because he caught lightning in a bottle, with good special teams to start the season, he should get a pass for being the third worst coach for the last 4 months?

I mean on one hand, everyone says he had nothing to work with

well he did, and he leaned on vets


and if you believe he had nothing to work with, then really the case is made to fire botts and then let the new gm figure out what to do with ralph



three years in, time to stop blaming murray
team is no better now then it was in 16-17

- homiedclown


RED HOT LAVA TAKE
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
They don't have to "agree to trades". Not every player in league has NT clause in contract. Where did you get idea that players have say as to where and when they get traded? For the most part only top end guys with leverage (See Unrestricted) in negotiations get that protection. Out of those, would guess only Johnson may have. Sure as the sun comes up, guys are getting moved to make room for Cirelli, Bringing in Coleman with another year at $1.8 already makes Gourde a sure goner in offseason.
- 33eagle

Those 3 do have NTC
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 3:25 PM ET

- homiedclown


Thought you’d approve sir! 😂😂😂
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
They don't have to "agree to trades". Not every player in league has NT clause in contract. Where did you get idea that players have say as to where and when they get traded? For the most part only top end guys with leverage (See Unrestricted) in negotiations get that protection. Out of those, would guess only Johnson may have. Sure as the sun comes up, guys are getting moved to make room for Cirelli, Bringing in Coleman with another year at $1.8 already makes Gourde a sure goner in offseason.
- 33eagle



umm the 3 he mentioned have NTC.. ssooooo
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
We don't, and I don't

I was simply expressing, if a team wants him, they can grab him for free without having to make a trade because he's on waivers.

- TheSabresTaco


So we're not in on the Domingue sweepstakes?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
They don't have to "agree to trades". Not every player in league has NT clause in contract. Where did you get idea that players have say as to where and when they get traded? For the most part only top end guys with leverage (See Unrestricted) in negotiations get that protection. Out of those, would guess only Johnson may have. Sure as the sun comes up, guys are getting moved to make room for Cirelli, Bringing in Coleman with another year at $1.8 already makes Gourde a sure goner in offseason.
- 33eagle


https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning

Palat, Gourde, T.Johnson & Kilorn all have NTC
So does Stamkos
Crazily enough.... Kucherov & Point do NOT

But i believe you’re right
Somehow they’ll get a couple of those guys to agree to be traded
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:32 PM ET
So we're not in on the Domingue sweepstakes?
- jcragcrumple

Hmmm. Well...Kaiser’s guy Jason “Kransdorf” is still available.
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