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Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
same thing happened to Simmonds (of course Couturier's worth is more).
- nastyflyergirl


true. at least he got 5M this season, i think it was 5 anyway.
dfseed
Joined: 06.09.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
Tonight is a very exciting game. First Nation arena hasn’t been friendly to us. I’ve seen us lose live there twice. It sucks!!
- SuperSchennBros


Nationwide not First Nation.

I have seen them lose there too, but have seen them lose there other places that are much worse like Newark, NJ.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
same thing happened to Simmonds (of course Couturier's worth is more).
- nastyflyergirl



very true but Coots skillset is very much different and lends to longer success.

I do feel bad for Simmer, has 5 or so goals this year and NJ turned into a Shxt show
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
Couturier is already on a riduculously one-sided deal in Philly's favor. His agent, Gilles Lupien, has a rep as one of the most compromise-friendly guys in the business but he's going to demand that Couturier get a huge bump in pay when it comes up again. No hometown discount next time. Can't blame them. Couturier has been extremely underpaid during the prime of his career.
- bmeltzer


As long as they don’t try to LeClair the guy.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 11:03 AM ET
true. at least he got 5M this season, i think it was 5 anyway.
- Ftown19125



750K per goal
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 20 @ 11:13 AM ET
Per frank_seravalli

"Noted prankster Marc Bergevin is either pulling a swerve and visiting Denver to throw us off the scent - or he and Joe Sakic are talking about something significant..."
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Feb 20 @ 11:15 AM ET
From previous blog

Coots is only 27. I think he has more than 5 years left. Even if his offense doesnt remain at this peak he will always be a great defensive center

I think G's career will last longer than 2 more years especially if he plays at wing.



I believe we will be Cup contenders when we ice a line-up that allows Coots and G to be "3rd line" players. I'm thinking 2-3 years down the road if/when TK, Farabee, Frost, etc. take on the scoring responsibility and G and Coots are more complimentary. That is a strong line-up. Hart and the D are rounding out nicely.

Patty and Lindblom situations put pressure on other prospects to hit but that how I was seeing our team 2-3 years down the road. TK and Lindblom were/are already starting to play larger roles.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 20 @ 11:18 AM ET
I believe we will be Cup contenders when we ice a line-up that allows Coots and G to be "3rd line" players. I'm thinking 2-3 years down the road if/when TK, Farabee, Frost, etc. take on the scoring responsibility and G and Coots are more complimentary. That is a strong line-up. Hart and the D are rounding out nicely.

Patty and Lindblom situations put pressure on other prospects to hit but that how I was seeing our team 2-3 years down the road. TK and Lindblom were/are already starting to play larger roles.

- cdearth23



Couturier is what 26? He is in his prime. No reason why he cant stay at a 1st line center level for another 5 years or so. I dont see any of those young players being better overall than Couturier. Giroux is a different story. He's 32.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Feb 20 @ 11:27 AM ET
Couturier is what 26? He is in his prime. No reason why he cant stay at a 1st line center level for another 5 years or so. I dont see any of those young players being better overall than Couturier. Giroux is a different story. He's 32.
- MJL


I could see Coots staying in top 6. My point was if we have the luxury of having Coots and G as complimentary pieces as opposed to carrying the load, we have a strong line-up. Patty's uncertain future really affects my plan.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 20 @ 11:30 AM ET
I could see Coots staying in top 6. My point was if we have the luxury of having Coots and G as complimentary pieces as opposed to carrying the load, we have a strong line-up. Patty's uncertain future really affects my plan.
- cdearth23


It's more about building a stronger lineup below Couturier rather than above him. He is the teams best forward and should be for quite a while moving forward.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 20 @ 11:33 AM ET
today could be killer for us in the standings
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 20 @ 11:34 AM ET
leafs want d trade ghost there
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 20 @ 11:37 AM ET
leafs want d trade ghost there
- 2Real


If you dont want Ghost what makes you think others would?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 11:46 AM ET
I believe we will be Cup contenders when we ice a line-up that allows Coots and G to be "3rd line" players. I'm thinking 2-3 years down the road if/when TK, Farabee, Frost, etc. take on the scoring responsibility and G and Coots are more complimentary. That is a strong line-up. Hart and the D are rounding out nicely.

Patty and Lindblom situations put pressure on other prospects to hit but that how I was seeing our team 2-3 years down the road. TK and Lindblom were/are already starting to play larger roles.

- cdearth23



Wait what on Coots?
You do know he is 27 right. Honestly if in 2-3 years he is just a complementary piece then somehow the Flyers traded for McJeebus and Kucherov .
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 11:50 AM ET
Wait what on Coots?
You do know he is 27 right. Honestly if in 2-3 years he is just a complementary piece then somehow the Flyers traded for McJeebus and Kucherov .

- opeth_pa


in 2-3 years he's going to be an expensive ass complementary player as well.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
Wait what on Coots?
You do know he is 27 right. Honestly if in 2-3 years he is just a complementary piece then somehow the Flyers traded for McJeebus and Kucherov .

- opeth_pa


Dont you remember he's a career 3C
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 12:05 PM ET
in 2-3 years he's going to be an expensive ass complementary player as well.
- Ftown19125



Bergeron is 34, still very productive as a 1C. I don't see why Coots can be SIMILAR
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 20 @ 12:09 PM ET
Bergeron is 34, still very productive as a 1C. I don't see why Coots can be SIMILAR
- wcorvette


agree 100%.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 20 @ 12:13 PM ET
very true but Coots skillset is very much different and lends to longer success.

I do feel bad for Simmer, has 5 or so goals this year and NJ turned into a Shxt show

- wcorvette



I would be shocked if he gets 5 or close to it next season. since he left the flyers he has played in 76 games and has 8 goals and 18 assists and is a minus 12. he has gone from consistent 25-32 goal scorer to falling off a cliff. really a shame. i do hope he is dealt to a real contender and gets a shot at the cup.
Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 20 @ 12:16 PM ET
I definitely want to see the team make a move at the deadline. and not for one of these "usual suspects" rental players I.e) kreider or JGP. It's on management to send a message not only to the team, but to the fans as well that they're all in and goin for it. I'm not sure how staying put matches them up better against the likes of wsh, pitt, bos, or tampa. They have a legit shot at making a run this year. The home record is outstanding, goaltending has been more solid than in years past.

names I like: gaudreau, reinhart, forsberg, domi, tatar...
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 12:18 PM ET
I definitely want to see the team make a move at the deadline. and not for one of these "usual suspects" rental players I.e) kreider or JGP. It's on management to send a message not only to the team, but to the fans as well that they're all in and goin for it. I'm not sure how staying put matches them up better against the likes of wsh, pitt, bos, or tampa. They have a legit shot at making a run this year. The home record is outstanding, goaltending has been more solid than in years past.

names I like: gaudreau, reinhart, forsberg, domi, tatar...

- Bryz's Buyout Fund



Management did send a message like that..They fired the GM and coach, hired a proven winning coach, signed Hayes, traded for Nisk and so on.

I couldn't disagree more and I don't see them having a legit shot this year and as such Im not willing to move any of the prospects\picks it would take to land the players you listed.

Next year and the subsequent years maybe but not this year. Keep letting the young players get experience.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
since his first full NHL season, Giroux has played in 836 of a possible 846 games. Since making the NHL Voracek has played in 906 of a possible 928 games.

pretty iron man stuff
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 20 @ 12:24 PM ET
since his first full NHL season, Giroux has played in 836 of a possible 846 games. Since making the NHL Voracek has played in 906 of a possible 928 games.

pretty iron man stuff

- nastyflyergirl

Only time hes really missed is wayne kneeing him in the head...

Its a damn shame to see what Simmonds has become
Bryz's Buyout Fund
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.20.2020

Feb 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
Management did send a message like that..They fired the GM and coach, hired a proven winning coach, signed Hayes, traded for Nisk and so on.

I couldn't disagree more and I don't see them having a legit shot this year and as such Im not willing to move any of the prospects\picks it would take to land the players you listed.

Next year and the subsequent years maybe but not this year. Keep letting the young players get experience.

- opeth_pa


Don't think it would be a complete hedge of the future. The farm is filled to the gills with prospects and potential. I never saw Hakstol as a quality fit. Sure he got em to the post season, twice; but think that more had to do with quality production from your star players. Are you saying just scrap another year of Giroux and Vora in what's left of their prime. Let them lose another step, while the influx of new talent and speed blows past them?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
since his first full NHL season, Giroux has played in 836 of a possible 846 games. Since making the NHL Voracek has played in 906 of a possible 928 games.

pretty iron man stuff

- nastyflyergirl


Good jinx as literally tonight both will probably get blown up.
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