It's funny that Leafs have the same record as Washington and the Blues the past 10 games. Things will even out. The Leafs' goaltending is unsusatinably bad.
- RogerRoeper

Again 28th in GA. Must’ve been a horrible 10. Could it be team D maybe?

Yeah but it does tell you the Leafs cap situation isn't as bad as most think.
- RogerRoeper

On the contrary.

Their cap situation is a serious problem. I don't believe you can win with nearly half your cap going to 4 guys.

We had to give up Matt Martin to get Eamon McAdam.. That will go down as the worst trade since the Kordic/Courtnall trade.. Matt Martin hits.. McAdam sounds like a drunked Irish kid
- PatC80

The Leafs would be 1st place with Martin.

Again 28th in GA. Must’ve been a horrible 10. Could it be team D maybe?
- Nighthawk

It's the whole team not giving a damn about defense.

We are all well aware of that.

Why do you feel the need to continuously bring it up?

On the contrary.

Their cap situation is a serious problem. I don't believe you can win with nearly half your cap going to 4 guys.
- Aetherial

Serve returned...

Roper Doper yer up

On the contrary.

Their cap situation is a serious problem. I don't believe you can win with nearly half your cap going to 4 guys.
- Aetherial

It probably causes quite a few issues in the dressing room too which doesn't go over well.

It's the whole team not giving a damn about defense.

We are all well aware of that.

Why do you feel the need to continuously bring it up?
- LeafGuy89

Fanboy Roper Doper blames it on goalies

Fanboy Roper Doper blames it on goalies
- Nighthawk

it can be more than one factor

On the contrary.

Their cap situation is a serious problem. I don't believe you can win with nearly half your cap going to 4 guys.
- Aetherial

Depends. Are the 4 stars? Who would the money be spent on if we didnt have one of them? Cap space helps if you spend it on good players instead of saving it to sign, say Gardiner and Simmons. Cap space can easily be wasted on Lupul, Clarkson, Komi, Phaneuf... cant just assume that by not having 4 big contracts the money would lead to team changing star players for great bargains.

Imo spending a lot on star players doesnt hurt teams as much as overpaying for average players.

Depends. Are the 4 stars? Who would the money be spent on if we didnt have one of them? Cap space helps if you spend it on good players instead of saving it to sign, say Gardiner and Simmons.
- systemtool

you can have Mitch Marner or loui erickson and Brandon sutter

You're seriously claiming Leafs don't have depth? All stats show they have some of the best depth in the NHL.
- RogerRoeper

w/o tavares: 3-2-2

w/o mitch - 4-7-0

w/o muzz - 5-3-3

w/o rielly - 7-6-2

one or more key injuries and we lose more than we win.

seems like we have great depth.

w/o tavares: 3-2-2

w/o mitch - 4-7-0

w/o muzz - 5-3-3

w/o rielly - 7-6-2

one or more key injuries and we lose more than we win.

seems like we have great depth.
- Tumbleweed

Youre expecting depth guys to replace stars? It doesn't work often, penguins seem to be an exception.

LOL what kind of an abortion is this post?!?!?!?!?!

I basically read this to say that any player that doesn't become a star or contribute at the NHL level, it's a bad trade? Without even considering what went the other way? i.e. any AHL for AHL player is a bad trade because the player doesn't become a star?????

Malgin is getting way too much press. They traded a guy who doesn't look like he'll be an NHL player, and if he does, tops out as a depth player, for a forward that is depth NHL caliber, because they needed a forward because of injury. And that's a failure? Jeez. It's a rather inconsequential trade in the grand scheme of things, but there is nothing wrong with it, other than fools want to continue to discuss it, especially those that want to trash Dubas over it.
- prock

not all those moves were strictly ahl depth. he was looking for depth nhl players and diamonds in the rough.

but he keeps panning for gold on other nhl teams rosters and comes up empty.

every. single. (frank)ing. time.

his one hit has been mik .... from the khl.

Youre expecting depth guys to replace stars? It doesn't work often, penguins seem to be an exception.
- systemtool

exactly.

we don't have depth.

Depends. Are the 4 stars? Who would the money be spent on if we didnt have one of them? Cap space helps if you spend it on good players instead of saving it to sign, say Gardiner and Simmons. Cap space can easily be wasted on Lupul, Clarkson, Komi, Phaneuf... cant just assume that by not having 4 big contracts the money would lead to team changing star players for great bargains.

Imo spending a lot on star players doesnt hurt teams as much as overpaying for average players.
- systemtool

Pretty much, Nylander at 6.9M or Lucic at 6M, which player would you rather have?

I can’t believe Dubas.

He sighed an ECHL player in Marchment a few years ago, developed him into an asset and traded him for an asset.

Stupid Dubas doesn’t do anything right.

exactly.

we don't have depth.
- Tumbleweed

I see Depth as a team being able to lose a star like Marner or Tavares and not go in the tank.

you are def weaker overall, but you are not suddenly the redwings

not all those moves were strictly ahl depth. he was looking for depth nhl players and diamonds in the rough.

but he keeps panning for gold on other nhl teams rosters and comes up empty.

every. single. (frank)ing. time.

his one hit has been mik .... from the khl.
- Tumbleweed

Great, but if you make a trade for a player you think is better, in hopes you get some good depth, and it doesn't pan out, that doesn't necessarily make it a bad trade, unless something of value is given up. If you give up value, and get nothing in return, that's a problem. If you give up nothing, to take a shot at acquiring some depth, that's not really a bad trade, just a shot you took that didn't pan out. I'd rather have someone that takes a shot, instead of sticks with guys that don't really project into anything.

If you're going to call a trade bad, you better be able to cite something that he gave up that was a mistake to give up.

I see Depth as a team being able to lose a star like Marner or Tavares and not go in the tank.

you are def weaker overall, but you are not suddenly the redwings
- senstroll

without rielly, they are headed into the tank.

far and away their best dman.

its possible the Leafs have been sunk by some goalies.
even if you half the impact mentioned here...for some reason...its still terrible.

*shrug*

Stephen Burtch
@stephen_burtch
Using xG in all situations - the gap between the performance of Frederik Andersen and Tukka Rask/Andrei Vasilevskiy since Jan 1st is insane.

Andersen ranks dead last amongst NHL goalies in GSAx at -12.03

Rask and Vasilevskiy sit at +9.90 and +9.96 respectively.

Gap of 22 goals


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@stephen_burtch
That's across a span of only like 13 games...

22 goals in 13 games is a difference of 1.7 goals per game again


So basically the difference in results between the Leafs and the top 2 teams in the division in terms of goaltending amounts to like 3.66 wins or 7.33 standings points... JUST on goaltending.

Since Jan 1st

TBL has 39 pts
BOS has 27 pts
TOR has 20 pts

Great, but if you make a trade for a player you think is better, in hopes you get some good depth, and it doesn't pan out, that doesn't necessarily make it a bad trade, unless something of value is given up. If you give up value, and get nothing in return, that's a problem. If you give up nothing, to take a shot at acquiring some depth, that's not really a bad trade, just a shot you took that didn't pan out. I'd rather have someone that takes a shot, instead of sticks with guys that don't really project into anything.

If you're going to call a trade bad, you better be able to cite something that he gave up that was a mistake to give up.
- prock

fine. pointless signings/trades. or whatever you call it.

but outside of established nhl players, dubas has been useless are bringing in guys from other teams that have any kind of positive impact.

and he's swung and missed on a lot. at some point you have to question his judgement.

exactly.

we don't have depth.
- Tumbleweed

No team has stars they can replace stars with. So like every other team, when a star goes down, we replace them with lesser players. The sky is blue.

fine. pointless signings/trades. or whatever you call it.

but outside of established nhl players, dubas has been useless are bringing in guys from other teams that have any kind of positive impact.

and he's swung and missed on a lot. at some point you have to question his judgement.
- Tumbleweed

Figure out how the NHL works. Each team has 50 NHL contracts plus multiple AHL/ECHL deals. They have to fill out 75 spots each year.

Sounds like malkin is healthy and will play

Figure out how the NHL works. Each team has 50 NHL contracts plus multiple AHL/ECHL deals. They have to fill out 75 spots each year.
- Santo_44

okay.

dubas has done a tremendous job.

malgin will work out great