For the love of god and sanity can we please give the dippoop his own thread so he can just debate and argue ad nauseum stupid crap with himself and that way none of us have to scroll 5 pages worth of utter repetitive garbage??

Shove him in the same damn hole with Skoal and the rest

The mental gymnastics taken to deny that Andersen is having a subpar this season is beyond ridiculous.

Campbell should get the nod tomorrow night.

Trade
Gauthier, Dermott, Johanssan, Howwel
Maybe one other prospect mid level
To The Ducks for
Manson, Ritchie, Terry

Gives us a RHD #1
A bigger winger with some grinding and a big body to be in front of the net to play with JT and Willie and a good defensive winger that can play 3rd or 4th line. Strong on defensive take always

Then

Trade Kerfoot, Bracco
To NJ
For Serverson

Then trade Barrie for a pick a good prospect and hopefully a LD at least better then Marchinin
Yes Barrie can run the PP but is not that great in the D zone. He is young and a cheap cap hit so we can get something for him.. Sandin, Severson can replace Barrie on PP till Rielly comes back

Send Liligren back to Marlies to play top min

Hyman, AM, Marner
Ritchie, JT, Willie
England, Spezza, Kap
Clifford, Malgin, Terry

D when Rielly is back would be

Rielly - Manson
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Severson.

Freddy - Jack
Bench - Timo, Marcicrap, Another depth D or F

Money should all work
Adds to the D... Makes the D look really good for this year and next..

Add some size and grit and defensive ability to the forwards without sacrificing to much skill.

Just my thought. But as you can see I can’t even spell some of the names. Lol

The mental gymnastics taken to deny that Andersen is having a subpar this season is beyond ridiculous.

Campbell should get the nod tomorrow night.
- mjones242

Facts are not mental gymnastics.

The difference in SV% is 0.11. That's 1 extra goal on every 100 shots. Or 1 extra goal every 3 games on 33 shots a game average.

The real reason for the dip in SV% is how they play in front of him.

Leafs are giving up the 5th most high danger chances in the NHL this season.

Last year, they gave up 12th most high danger chances.

Fun fact: St. Louis 30th in HDCA, Boston 29th in HDCA. Wonder why they went to the Cup Final? Amazing how that works, you have a good goalie AND you make his life easier and you win!

Facts are facts; the Leafs play like poop in front of him and then people wrongfully blame Andersen because he can't stand on his head every single game.

I figured it out, it’s coaching. Keefe needs to be more specific...he said “make sure you watch the guys in front of the net”

So they did.
- Garnie

lmfaooooooooo 🤣

Mike Augello: Pitiful in Pittsburgh, Johnsson done for the year, Leafs deal for Malgin
- mikeinbuffalo

trade dubas

fire perimeter willi

bench queef

what a (frank)ing joke🤦‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍🏿

This team is a mess. Marner and Matthews are both great players but their main concern is scoring not winning. They cheat on defense, looking to justify their big contracts. Who cares if Matthews scores 60 or Marner scores 100 points if they play on a non playoff team. Just like the Oilers, the Leafs lack balance and are going nowhere until they stop playing shinny and start playing big boy hockey

Like Kerfoot, Malgin sucks at being a center. He can't win FOs and he's tiny. Malgin is a winger and he occasionally scores points. But that's all he does.

This trade was a hail Mary by Dubas to try and replace Johnsson in the short term on the cheap. But ultimately, they traded another big body for a small skill player. This team has enough skill. What they lack is size, toughness, heart and soul.
- JohnFergusonJr

A+, Amen and Thank You Jesus.

This goes right to the heart of the entire discussion.

You cannot win if your best players are not your best players in the games that matter.

The Leafs best players could not stop Crosby. Crosby dominated the Leafs best players. Figure skaters and dancers will not neutralize Crosby or Ovechkin. Bergeron plays with the heart of a champion. Soft teams do not make their opponents pay a price. Do the Leafs best players have a competitive heart?

Are Leaf fans content to see Matthews score a goal a game? Fluffy expectations based on offensive production outcomes of a few players has made Leaf fans soft. They refuse to demand more. They make excuses and rationalize failure.

They try to explain away the obvious. Leafs are incapable of playing winning defensive hockey.

Newfies usually only struggle when you use numbers with more than one digit.
- BINGO!

heyyyyyyyyyyy. oh. MORE than one digit.....ok......carry on.

A+, Amen and Thank You Jesus.

This goes right to the heart of the entire discussion.

You cannot win if your best players are not your best players in the games that matter.

The Leafs best players could not stop Crosby. Crosby dominated the Leafs best players. Figure skaters and dancers will not neutralize Crosby or Ovechkin. Bergeron plays with the heart of a champion. Soft teams do not make their opponents pay a price. Do the Leafs best players have a competitive heart?

Are Leaf fans content to see Matthews score a goal a game? Fluffy expectations based on offensive production outcomes of a few players has made Leaf fans soft. They refuse to demand more. They make excuses and rationalize failure.

They try to explain away the obvious. Leafs are incapable of playing winning defensive hockey.
- spatso

Uggie: Spatshole is agreeing with you; bad look bud. Real bad.

Playoff teams: PIT, CAR, TBL, FLA, VAN, TBL, BOS, NYI, CBJ, FLA, TBL, CAR, WSH

*FLA isn't a playoff team technically (yet) but those are going to be like playoff games so...

Non-playoff teams: SJS, LA, ANA, NSH, NJD, OTT, DET, MTL

Those 8 games against non-playoff teams are must wins. Absolutely can not afford to lose any points there. To go 14-7, that's going to be tough.

They won't make a wild card spot because if Florida passes them, they probably can't catch Carolina, Philadelphia or Columbus the way they are playing.

So the game is, stay ahead of Florida. Won't be easy but it's possible.

After that, 1st round ass kicking and back to planning for next year.
- JohnFergusonJr

There are wildcard teams too who aren't very far above the Leafs in the standings too, it's not just Florida the Leafs are in the playoff race with.

I can agree with that. Exhausting.

After back reading a couple pages, I can officially say this place has become nothing more than the spot to come to read absolutely ridiculous terrible ideas from complete idiots who think they know exactly what it takes to make the team successful, and devote their lives to relentlessly convincing fellow hockeybuzz members that the educated experienced professionals who do it for a living are just far to dimwitted to see what the hockeybuzz GMs effortlessly see.

With the odd great post about how stupid these people are chucked in the middle.

These boards are officially nothing more than UG and Max's arrogant text vomit.

Is there any other decent boards around that haven't been overrun by complete cretens like them?
- joel878

POTY candidate

There are wildcard teams too who aren't very far above the Leafs in the standings too, it's not just Florida the Leafs are in the playoff race with.
- LeafGuy89

even friggin buffalo is only 6 points behind..

Marner: "we lack effort"

Yup been saying that at times all season, but people got angry.

The team is horrible in their own end, have been for years.
Nothing will change until they improve that.

Freddy needs to play great tonight.
Team actually needs to play D and try hard.

Facts are not mental gymnastics.

The difference in SV% is 0.11. That's 1 extra goal on every 100 shots. Or 1 extra goal every 3 games on 33 shots a game average.

The real reason for the dip in SV% is how they play in front of him.

Leafs are giving up the 5th most high danger chances in the NHL this season.

Last year, they gave up 12th most high danger chances.

Fun fact: St. Louis 30th in HDCA, Boston 29th in HDCA. Wonder why they went to the Cup Final? Amazing how that works, you have a good goalie AND you make his life easier and you win!

Facts are facts; the Leafs play like poop in front of him and then people wrongfully blame Andersen because he can't stand on his head every single game.
- JohnFergusonJr

If we look at just with Keefe

Leafs have 354 HDCA which is 23rd in the NHL. but they have 394 (52.67%)
Florida for example is just below the Leafs with 352 but only have 283 (44%)


even stingy Dallas has given up 348, only 6 less than the Leafs

the 5v5 save % during that time

Leafs .912
Panthers .920
Dallas .935

Leafs are 26th in sv% over that time.

I think you have helped make the point that the Leafs have gotten some poor goaltending

Ok so the leafs picked up a guy from Florida who is pretty much a similar player to those we already have.
That's fine.

But what the hell is a Veronneau.
Assuming some AHL filler.

Ok so the leafs picked up a guy from Florida who is pretty much a similar player to those we already have.
That's fine.

But what the hell is a Veronneau.
Assuming some AHL filler.
- Fakepartofme

AHL move, nothing to do with the Leafs i assume

even friggin buffalo is only 6 points behind..
- plantheparade

And buffalo doesn't overpay their players!

If we look at just with Keefe

Leafs have 354 HDCA which is 23rd in the NHL. but they have 394 (52.67%)
Florida for example is just below the Leafs with 352 but only have 283 (44%)


even stingy Dallas has given up 348, only 6 less than the Leafs

the 5v5 save % during that time

Leafs .912
Panthers .920
Dallas .935

Leafs are 26th in sv% over that time.

I think you have helped make the point that the Leafs have gotten some poor goaltending
- senstroll

But Andersen isn't the problem. Uggie told me so in a giant essay I didn't read.

The mess is people blaming Andersen without refusing to look deeper to find the truth.
- JohnFergusonJr

You do understand that ridiculously detailed analysis based solely on your seriously biased opinion is utterly useless right?

Do you also understand how sad the whole thing is?

Andersen has been crap in 2020, like Hutchinson-bad. Your clouded opinion doesn't change the number in the slightest.

This team is a mess. Marner and Matthews are both great players but their main concern is scoring not winning. They cheat on defense, looking to justify their big contracts. Who cares if Matthews scores 60 or Marner scores 100 points if they play on a non playoff team. Just like the Oilers, the Leafs lack balance and are going nowhere until they stop playing shinny and start playing big boy hockey
- BernardShakey

All 30 other organizations would gladly take 2 22 year-old superstars on a 100+ point pace.
And I think everyone would care if Matthews/Marner did not score a lot. They can't win with you. Matthews on pace for 60 goals, 100 points and it's a negative. Jesus.

I keep hearing Eichel and Barkov are much better than Matthews. they've never once seen the freaking playoffs. LOL

Leafs in 6

What’s the scores tonight Sensy?

GLG

Yeesh looks like it was fun in here last night.
Not gonna back read but.....Andersen needs to be better and the leafs team needs to put in more effort and try to have some sort of team defense. They are absolute garbage in their own end and its not even debatable.

So should be a fun game.
go leafs

And if all else fails, at the end of the day, at least we have the Raptors.
Stars, heart, effort, teamwork, consistency, defense

Be happy.

All 30 other organizations would gladly take 2 22 year-old superstars on a 100+ point pace.
And I think everyone would care if Matthews/Marner did not score a lot. They can't win with you. Matthews on pace for 60 goals, 100 points and it's a negative. Jesus.

I keep hearing Eichel and Barkov are much better than Matthews. they've never once seen the freaking playoffs. LOL
- RogerRoeper

Where are you reading that?