yeah I'm not really all that impressed by the Canucks. I don't see the makings of an elite team there. And Benning has been a pretty bad GM. They've had a fair bit of anchor contracts there.
- prock

Petersson, Hughes, Boeser and Horvat are very nice piece to build around if you ask me.

They signed Tyler Myers to 47 years X $62 gajillion.

Don’t blame us for laughing at them.
- Atomic Wedgie

Meh, I like to save my laughs for when the troll us after they miss and we make it.

Looks at sv%

*shakes fist and blames goalie*



Pens dance the leafs and get 4 taps and we still come in here and blame the goaler
- Garnie

That 5th goal, when Andersen gave the puck away, should we pin that one on Nylander?

Looks at sv%

*shakes fist and blames goalie*



Pens dance the leafs and get 4 taps and we still come in here and blame the goaler
- Garnie

to be fair, we are not just talking about 1 game here....more like 15 ...this year

I liked Kerfoot at C I have no idea why he isn't there right now.

The Goat kills Engvall's production.
- Santo_44

The Goat did not kill Engvall's production - Engvall's production dropped when move to center ice to replace Kerfoot between Johnsson and Kapanen.

He appears to infinitely better suited to playing wing than center.

You can chose to blame the Goat... but he's been scratched what 3 of the last 5 games ...
so I'm not sure the Goat is the one making those decisions

to be fair, we are not just talking about 1 game here....more like 15 ...this year
- senstroll

Nope, his .880 save % since Jan 1 2020, is only because of one game..

ODOG IS LOSING IT RIGHT NOW ON OVERDRIVE LMAO
- CarlitoBrigante

He's right. Terrible game & situational management by coach and players. You can't play with the lead the same way you play with a deficit. These guys are too reckless with puck and can't protect a lead and can't seem to kill a penalty when they need it the most. They avoid the simple play to make a high risk fancy play that creates more turnovers than goals.

Apart from a few players like Hyman this team is filled with passengers that will wait for others to do the dirty work. Winning puck battles, blocking shots, moving guys out of the crease, taking hits to make plays, making hits to take away time/space from opposition i.e. What it takes besides skill to win games.

The Goat did not kill Engvall's production - Engvall's production dropped when move to center ice to replace Kerfoot between Johnsson and Kapanen.

He appears to infinitely better suited to playing wing than center.

You can chose to blame the Goat... but he's been scratched what 3 of the last 5 games ...
so I'm not sure the Goat is the one making those decisions
- BorjeFan4Ever

this I agree with..

Put Engvall back with JT and Nylander.
Move Kerfoot to 3C with Kap

Epic O'Dog meltdown on 'Overdrive'...
😂
- fifty__missions

do tell?

That 5th goal, when Andersen gave the puck away, should we pin that one on Nylander?
- PatC80

Bad giveaway, but what the hell were the other players doing when the Pens got the puck?

Nope, his .880 save % since Jan 1 2020, is only because of one game..
- PatC80

Nope, it's because of 1 very bad coach, 6 bad defensemen and 12 lazy forwards.

How could you possibly care?

It’s a guy you have never heard of, traded for a guy who will never get a regular shift in the NHL.
- Atomic Wedgie

EVERY trade is bad.

Nope, it's because of 1 very bad coach, 6 bad defensemen and 12 lazy forwards.
- JohnFergusonJr

That 5th goal, when Andersen gave the puck away, should we pin that one on Nylander?
- PatC80

I said 4 and the game was over 🤷🏻‍♂️

He’ll gladly take the 5th one...probably figured he had to play defense too

Nope, his .880 save % since Jan 1 2020, is only because of one game..
- PatC80

im not even talking about the game last night at all, 3 of the 4 goals they scored were PP goals...Sid is a beast. wasnt even mad...had no expectations of a win last night, pens are legit

come on... why would the GM listen to the coach?

all this nonsense about GM being risk averse and not...

without CAP constraints that he himself was partially responsible for - does Dubas make the

i) Kadri trade? probably not
ii) Marleau deal was made to get rid of the CAP impact of his contract
iii) Zaitsev/Brown for Ceci - again CAP management necessity

so.. he didn't make those deals because he was "risk averse" ... he made those deals to free up cap space for Marner's deal that had to be signed...

so give him credit for making the deals he HAD TO.. to make cap space..

but don't try and create the aura of some hockey guru making deals to "improve the team"... none of those deals improved the team.

just like the Petan and now Malgin deals.

the Muzzin and Campbell deals improved the team - because they addressed obvious gaps... and those required some courage to complete... because Dubas had to give up assets.

but let's not unnecessarily "call him the greatest GM ever"... he's done some good stuff... and he's had some missteps..
- BorjeFan4Ever

It's fair to say the book is still out on him. After all, it really hasn't been all that long he's been at the helm of the team.

And while I'm okay with that, I do wonder why a rookie GM is running the team. Isn't that what the big complaint was about JFJ? "we're the Leafs, we can afford the best GM in the league, why are we hiring someone unproven". And then that turned out very badly.

And the other side of that coin is, Babcock was widely regarded as the best, and that didn't turn out so well either.

Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't.

Looks at sv%

*shakes fist and blames goalie*



Pens dance the leafs and get 4 taps and we still come in here and blame the goaler
- Garnie

It's the easy/lazy way to look at it. I urge everyone to watch the first four goals last night and the d-zone coverage leading up to them.
It's a microcosm of what ails this team.

to be fair, we are not just talking about 1 game here....more like 15 ...this year
- senstroll

Me too

FLA was almost identical...I could go on but we’ve already decided.

Better be trading him if he’s the reason or Leafs in 6 will Out the window and Roger will be ruined

It's the easy/lazy way to look at it. I urge everyone to watch the first four goals last night and the d-zone coverage leading up to them.
It's a microcosm of what ails this team.
- floater_willy

Not the teams great, it’s all the weak tap in goals.

Now that Marchment was traded, we lost our one shot at Parayko..

It sucks, Dubas can't do anything right.. Except for trading for a team need.
- PatC80

not quite true ... now that the Leafs have Malgin... they can trade Petan without the risk of being without a replacement

I know the Malgin deal was made to free $149 of CAP space... that they needed this afternoon apparently.

swapping deck chairs on the titanic

It's the easy/lazy way to look at it. I urge everyone to watch the first four goals last night and the d-zone coverage leading up to them.
It's a microcosm of what ails this team.
- floater_willy

first goal crosby thread the the (frank)ing needle with a perfect pass.

Leafs give up a tap in
basically the same for the 3-0 goal...sweet pass from Sid

tap ins...yes...from elite plays from Sid

Petersson, Hughes, Boeser and Horvat are very nice piece to build around if you ask me.
- Scabeh

Every team has "a few nice pieces". Compare it to cup winners, and see if you think these guys project into the same caliber of players. Pettersson, maybe. Hughes, I think it's a long time off before you can determine that. The others, I don't see it.

ODOG IS LOSING IT RIGHT NOW ON OVERDRIVE LMAO
- CarlitoBrigante

Saying we already had a Phil Kessel, now we have 4.

Now that Marchment was traded, we lost our one shot at Parayko..

It sucks, Dubas can't do anything right.. Except for trading for a team need.
- PatC80

LOL.

Man, Parayko woould be a dream.

The Goat did not kill Engvall's production - Engvall's production dropped when move to center ice to replace Kerfoot between Johnsson and Kapanen.

He appears to infinitely better suited to playing wing than center.

You can chose to blame the Goat... but he's been scratched what 3 of the last 5 games ...
so I'm not sure the Goat is the one making those decisions
- BorjeFan4Ever

I'd have Pierre slotted on JT's wing ...Kerfoot is not an ideal 3C but he was more productive playing there earlier in the year then he has been playing top 6 wing. Kerfoot between Kappy and Clifford ..and tell them to skate and hit.