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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 18 @ 5:49 PM ET
The first wild card might be the best place to finish for the Central division teams.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 18 @ 5:52 PM ET
Selling when firmly entrenched in a PO race wasn't going to happen with this club.

I mentioned at years start that if this club was in a PO spot a week or two before deadline that something like this was gonna happen regardless of the Boeser injury.

Ownership wants this club in the PO's 'this year' and JB is trying to make it happen. If we don't replace Boeser's production the PO run is stalled. Is what it is.

I would bet that JB isn't even done yet lol

- LordHumungous


“I don’t foresee us trading any more picks, but if something makes sense, maybe, you know, with with one of the young players that we feel we have enough depth at that position, we’ll maybe look to do something like that,” JB said.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 18 @ 6:02 PM ET
Exactly! "Sorry Marky, I know you're having a career year... Petey and JT, you guys are rocking it, we love what you're doing... Quinn, you've reshaped this team.. but, I mean, Boeser – arguably our fourth best forward – is out for a little while, so we're gonna throw this season into the bin and try again next year."

Would be a huge slap in the face to every man on that team.

- NewYorkNuck


#feelings
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 18 @ 6:02 PM ET
Selling when firmly entrenched in a PO race wasn't going to happen with this club.

I mentioned at years start that if this club was in a PO spot a week or two before deadline that something like this was gonna happen regardless of the Boeser injury.

Ownership wants this club in the PO's 'this year' and JB is trying to make it happen. If we don't replace Boeser's production the PO run is stalled. Is what it is.

I would bet that JB isn't even done yet lol

- LordHumungous

Yup. Miller was the first sign the aquas have mandated playoffs. You can see it’s business move, they want that playoff money. The “for the players and the fans” poop today from JB was translucent af
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 18 @ 6:05 PM ET
#feelings
- bloatedmosquito

Every one needs a good slap in the face from time to time.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 18 @ 6:10 PM ET
id respectfully disagree with those fans.
- Codes1087

Agreed, I have Pod, Hogger, MDP, Lind and even OJ ahead of him myself.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 18 @ 6:12 PM ET
id respectfully disagree with those fans.
- Codes1087



I will say it's dumb
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 18 @ 6:18 PM ET
A lot depends how he gels, but, what’s a deal look like? 5M for 4 years?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 6:29 PM ET
“I don’t foresee us trading any more picks, but if something makes sense, maybe, you know, with with one of the young players that we feel we have enough depth at that position, we’ll maybe look to do something like that,” JB said.
- NewYorkNuck

For a guy who claims to love draft picks he sure doesn't hang onto very many

He's traded 17 picks away, (brought in 15, although of much lesser quality), probably the most of any GM, all while he's suppose to be rebuilding...I have no issues with the Miller or Toffoli trades though, it's time to start competing.

2014 - 2nd, 3rd & 4th traded away (brought in 1st & 3rd)
2015 - 2nd & a 3rd traded away (brought in a 3rd)
2016 - 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th & 5th traded away (brought in 3rd & 5th)
2017 - 5th & 6th traded away (brought in 4th, 5th, 6th)
2018 - 4th traded away
2019 - 3rd & 4th traded away (brought in 4th, 6th, 6th, 6th, 7th)
2020 - 1st & 2nd traded away (brought in 7th, 7th)

Five second round picks traded away now with not one ever coming back, and I though Nonuts was bad
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Feb 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
id respectfully disagree with those fans.
- Codes1087

He's a long shot at best, love his skill-set though.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 18 @ 6:34 PM ET
Here's my story from the rink, where Jim Benning's injury updates came thisclose to overshadowing the arrival of Tyler Toffoli.

https://www.thoroldnews.c...artilage-fracture-2101393
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 18 @ 6:49 PM ET
They could be as high on Madden as some of our fans are. Some fans are saying he is "easily" our 2nd best prospect...
- Retinalz

Rumour was JB liked Linus Karlsson on draft day but SJ took him before they could.

JB traded a scrub for him. LA traded NHL talent to acquire a prospect they liked.

JB isn't stupid unless you ask stupid people. He's not giving up Vans 2nd best prospect for a rental or a top 6 forward.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 18 @ 7:05 PM ET
Every one needs a good slap in the face from time to time.
- Marwood


lets start here

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 18 @ 7:07 PM ET
lets start here


- bloatedmosquito

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 18 @ 7:09 PM ET
Does it ever...
- WhiteLie


I know it's crystal ball stuff but if you're trying to build through the draft then it's a good time right now to try and take advantage.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 18 @ 7:15 PM ET
I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that locker room conversation....
JB walks in:
'Well gang we're a point outta first and Boeser, Leivo and Ferland are gone so I'm selling, it's all about the draft now and you idiots better stop trying to win. Good luck out there."

- Brooks_Light


Never took you for the soft, country club type. Again, if I was GM and pulled a move like that and some players came to me and said...

"I'm hurt by your lack of confidence in us"

my reply...

"Shut the (frank) up and collect the millions I'm paying you"
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 18 @ 7:36 PM ET
Jeff Paterson
@patersonjeff
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4m
not only is the Wayne Simmonds chatter not dying down. It seems to be getting louder. Will be interesting to see how physical these final two games before deadline are for #Canucks vs MIN & BOS
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 18 @ 7:38 PM ET
Never took you for the soft, country club type. Again, if I was GM and pulled a move like that and some players came to me and said...

"I'm hurt by your lack of confidence in us"

my reply...

"Shut the (frank) up and collect the millions I'm paying you"

- bloatedmosquito


Yeah, do that and forget any decent UFA ever signing here again, that’s how you get situations in Edmonton and Ottawa where they suck for years, get generational talent but still can’t get it together.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Feb 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
I like the trade.

Canucks got a good player and more importantly, the kind of player that they will need in the playoffs (hopefully this year!). They need to make the playoffs and/or extend him for it to payoff, but at least one of those should happen.

Madden, for all his NCAA success to-date, never made it to my top 4-5 prospects, either as a center or winger. His rights + the 25% success rates for a 2nd round pick making it to the NHL seem a fair price for Toffoli as a UFA. Schaller as an offsetting salary makes it work with the cap.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 18 @ 7:44 PM ET
Yeah, do that and forget any decent UFA ever signing here again, that’s how you get situations in Edmonton and Ottawa where they suck for years, get generational talent but still can’t get it together.
- DariusKnight


Glad to see you're back Darius. How are things?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 18 @ 7:52 PM ET
Yeah, do that and forget any decent UFA ever signing here again, that’s how you get situations in Edmonton and Ottawa where they suck for years, get generational talent but still can’t get it together.
- DariusKnight



Welcome back Mofo . Glad to see you still alive an kickin
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 18 @ 8:14 PM ET
Jeff Paterson
@patersonjeff
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4m
not only is the Wayne Simmonds chatter not dying down. It seems to be getting louder. Will be interesting to see how physical these final two games before deadline are for #Canucks vs MIN & BOS

- VANTEL


Bye-bye 3rd Round pick.

Only 4 more to go and then JB can easily justify why losing Judd Bracket isn't an issue.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 18 @ 8:14 PM ET
Never took you for the soft, country club type. Again, if I was GM and pulled a move like that and some players came to me and said...

"I'm hurt by your lack of confidence in us"

my reply...

"Shut the (frank) up and collect the millions I'm paying you"

- bloatedmosquito


Again this is why you’re not a GM & I Don’t know what that completely logical mock conversation has anything to do with me being soft or involved in a country club but you’re on fawking fentanyl if u think any guy in that locker room would accept a tank commandment at this point in the season.
“Hey Petey shut your damn mouth, Collect your paycheck, stop trying to win bcus draft picks are more important than the playoff push”
😆😆😆😆
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 18 @ 8:15 PM ET
Bye-bye 3rd Round pick.

Only 4 more to go and then JB can easily justify why losing Judd Bracket isn't an issue.

- YeOldTimer



I think some people here hope to recoup it when we trade Marky and Brock
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Feb 18 @ 8:16 PM ET
Jeff Paterson
@patersonjeff
·
4m
not only is the Wayne Simmonds chatter not dying down. It seems to be getting louder. Will be interesting to see how physical these final two games before deadline are for #Canucks vs MIN & BOS

- VANTEL


I just can’t see it happening - I think this is pure BS
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