Agreed, the 2nd is open to the same criticisms we gave deals like Derek Roy in the past. I do think, though, that some combination of the 2nd/Madden has to do with the Kings taking back Schaller for the remainder of the year. If VAN had the cap space to take Toffoli on their current roster, I'd wager the price would've been a later round pick or lesser-hyped prospect...

(*triggers the hockeybuzz capologists *)
- WhiteLie

They should have worked Loui into this somehow. Madden is a good prospect maybe shoulda gave Kole Lind instead and kept madden for them to take loui i donno

are you actually going to have me spell out the difference between what the two clubs have accomplished in the last decade?
- Codes1087

I will for you...

Give us a 1OA generational talent just once.
Take away theirs.

What would we have? We’ll never know.
What would they have? 0 CUPS

How’s your reading?

I know it's feasibly not possible, but what would it take to actually sign Toffoli? I like the trade it I'm being honest, but giving up that 2nd rounder is kind of ouch.

I'd imagine we would have to offload Eriksson before we can find a way to sign Toffoli? anyone else want to enlighten me a bit.

Btw Codes I answered your challenge of name a team. Don’t like the answer don’t ask.

I will for you...

Give us a 1OA generational talent just once.
Take away theirs.

What would we have? We’ll never know.
What would they have? 0 CUPS

How’s your reading?
- Nighthawk

you give me zero faith in humanity.

Though I agree that a 2nd round pick, and Madden could be important to our future success. I feel that playoff experience and battling to get in to those playoffs is more important right now. Players like EP, QH, BB, JV, AG, BH are our future, and Our 2nd and Madden could only hope to be as good as AG. Getting those players experience in the playoffs will help lay a foundation for the next 10 years of being competitive. Worry about who will be on the team in 5 years later. Adding Toffoli and getting BB back will give us a real shot at getting to the 2nd and MAYBE the 3rd round. That is way too valuable to our young star players. Also we have guys like Pod, Hogger, Lind, OJ, Rafferty that will be pushing for roster spots a lot sooner than Madden or this years 2nd.
- Retinalz

Second rounder in a deep draft is very, very valuable and could become a much better than Gaudette.

I do like the team and agree the experience is invaluable. [/img]

Btw Codes I answered your challenge of name a team. Don’t like the answer don’t ask.
- Nighthawk

we are talking about drafting players who have played over 100 games. Rash and I were talking about team drafting in the last decade, not 2 individual drafts or players. You told me that PIT tanked and got Crosby and Malkin (thank god you told me cause I would have never knew this).

I know it's feasibly not possible, but what would it take to actually sign Toffoli? I like the trade it I'm being honest, but giving up that 2nd rounder is kind of ouch.

I'd imagine we would have to offload Eriksson before we can find a way to sign Toffoli? anyone else want to enlighten me a bit.
- Krazy_Kanuck

I don’t see how LE isnt bought out this offseason.

Boeser done for season....😣 8 weeks hopefully back for playoffs.

you give me zero faith in humanity.
- Codes1087

Ok

I danced around your 2nd Q not pertinent to your 1st.

You still have not stuck to answering mine?

My faith also wains...

Ok

I danced around your 2nd Q not pertinent to your 1st.

You still have not stuck to answering mine?

My faith also wains...
- Nighthawk

you are god damn illiterate

we are talking about drafting players who have played over 100 games. Rash and I were talking about team drafting in the last decade, not 2 individual drafts or players. You told me that PIT tanked and got Crosby and Malkin (thank god you told me cause I would have never knew this).
- Codes1087

Are you a politician perchance?

Leivo the rest of the season as well.... hopefully back for the playoffs

Boeser done for season....😣 8 weeks hopefully back for playoffs.
- carsonagenic

poop. Lets go Tofolli.....?

poop. Lets go Tofolli.....?
- NewYorkNuck

God damn it Loui will still live.

you are god damn illiterate
- Codes1087

Sorry bucko I’ll text slower so you can keep up. Pls stay within context.

Name the Pens drafted from 2010 til 2019 that have played 100 games?

Though I agree that a 2nd round pick, and Madden could be important to our future success. I feel that playoff experience and battling to get in to those playoffs is more important right now. Players like EP, QH, BB, JV, AG, BH are our future, and Our 2nd and Madden could only hope to be as good as AG. Getting those players experience in the playoffs will help lay a foundation for the next 10 years of being competitive. Worry about who will be on the team in 5 years later. Adding Toffoli and getting BB back will give us a real shot at getting to the 2nd and MAYBE the 3rd round. That is way too valuable to our young star players. Also we have guys like Pod, Hogger, Lind, OJ, Rafferty that will be pushing for roster spots a lot sooner than Madden or this years 2nd.
- Retinalz

The only area of the trade I didn't like pairs with rationale I read that with Pettersson, Horvat, and Gaudette the Canucks were set down the middle. Some scouting reports see Madden as a top 6 C, which if true, is better value than AG who seems like he'll be a 3C barring more "late-blooming". The timing for this deal obviously doesn't allow a little more patience to really know but given the lack of Center prospects in your list, it stings a little bit for me.

Sorry bucko I’ll text slower so you can keep up. Pls stay within context.

Name the Pens drafted from 2010 til 2019 that have played 100 games?
- Nighthawk

they have had 14 draft players since who have played over 100 nhl games compared to the Canucks 8 you dumb f*ck. the whole point of the argument was the value of draft picks VS the competence of the scouting department. They also have 2 stanley cups, 3 if you include 2009.

The only area of the trade I didn't like pairs with rationale I read that with Pettersson, Horvat, and Gaudette the Canucks were set down the middle. Some scouting reports see Madden as a top 6 C, which if true, is better value than AG who seems like he'll be a 3C barring more "late-blooming". The timing for this deal obviously doesn't allow a little more patience to really know but given the lack of Center prospects in your list, it stings a little bit for me.
- WhiteLie

JB just said that he invisioned him as a winger.

I took a stab at the Pens had 8 or less drafted players from 2010 play 100 games. Never claimed to be right just simply threw it out there.

They should have worked Loui into this somehow. Madden is a good prospect maybe shoulda gave Kole Lind instead and kept madden for them to take loui i donno
- Jkuzzi

Lind was definitely someone I was thinking had value and was more expendable give our recent picks of winger prospects. I don't think you can ever have enough depth down the middle

Not drafted in 2010 til now lol
- Nighthawk

Yes but you can’t compare a team with those players to the Canucks lol

Yes but you can’t compare a team with those players to the Canucks lol
- Redmile247

dont even bother with him.

they have 13 draft players since who have played over 100 nhl games you dumb f*ck. the whole point of the argument was the value of draft picks VS the competence of the scouting department.
- Codes1087

You two need to have a beer, a joint and go rub one out. Together or apart it your choice.

You two need to have a beer, a joint and go rub one out. Together or apart it your choice.
- carsonagenic

it will probably just make me more aggravated and him less tolerable.