Louis Domingue vs. St. Louis is 0-2-0 with a 3.86 GAA.

Small sample but he stinks.

John Hayden back in because this team has more tank in it than the Camden
Aquarium.

Devils sleep with the fishes.

Here is a not so much fun fact about the Devils lack of ability to scout and draft wisely.

Since the 2005 NHL draft there has been only 4 players drafted by the New Jersey Devils that have amassed 100 total NHL points.

Honestly this stat blew my mind and if we ever wonder why we are where we are as an organization this says it all.
- Shadyron

From 2000, we only have 10.

Even the Islanders as bad as they've been have more, in fact they have 22 100 points players drafted from 2000.

What's worse is Atlanta/Winnipeg has 17 since 2000.

From 2000, we only have 10.

Even the Islanders as bad as they've been have more, in fact they have 22 100 points players drafted from 2000.

What's worse is Atlanta/Winnipeg has 17 since 2000.
- Devils9503

This is a) horrifying and b) exactly why I don’t understand the excitement around this tear down. The Devils are terrible at developing talent. Does 5 picks in the first round sound exciting? Of course. But then those picks become players, those players become wait-and-see guys, and in a couple years, one or maybe two of them will actually be on the team, being asked to do too much because there’s no one over 30 for them to play with.

From 2000, we only have 10.

Even the Islanders as bad as they've been have more, in fact they have 22 100 points players drafted from 2000.

What's worse is Atlanta/Winnipeg has 17 since 2000.
- Devils9503

Lou was busy trying to keep the team competitive. We had horrible draft spots, traded picks for players. It takes a long time to fill the cupboard, Shero tried to cheat a little when he shouldnt have.

Teams like Avs, Pitts, Chic were HORRIBLE FOR A LOONG TIME.

I am happy the rebuild is continuing. We need top talent.

This is a) horrifying and b) exactly why I don’t understand the excitement around this tear down. The Devils are terrible at developing talent. Does 5 picks in the first round sound exciting? Of course. But then those picks become players, those players become wait-and-see guys, and in a couple years, one or maybe two of them will actually be on the team, being asked to do too much because there’s no one over 30 for them to play with.
- Sashamook

It's because Lou's scouting did almost nothing for the majority of his time here outside of a few great franchise players. We already have a lot of promising young players coming up through the system in the time Shero was here than in the last 10 years of Lou.

Brenden Dillon at 50% retained brought the Sharks back a 2020 2nd and a conditional 3rd round pick. We can maybe get a little more but thats probably a similar area of return we're looking at for Vats

Here is a not so much fun fact about the Devils lack of ability to scout and draft wisely.

Since the 2005 NHL draft there has been only 4 players drafted by the New Jersey Devils that have amassed 100 total NHL points.

Honestly this stat blew my mind and if we ever wonder why we are where we are as an organization this says it all.
- Shadyron

Without looking it up I'm going to guess Henrique, Severson, Hirschier andddddd idk Paul Martin?

This is a) horrifying and b) exactly why I don’t understand the excitement around this tear down. The Devils are terrible at developing talent. Does 5 picks in the first round sound exciting? Of course. But then those picks become players, those players become wait-and-see guys, and in a couple years, one or maybe two of them will actually be on the team, being asked to do too much because there’s no one over 30 for them to play with.
- Sashamook

which is why I'm keeping Palms unless the return is a near guaranteed 60pt prospect. .. or Byram. Otherwise, I see no harm in keeping everything Palmieri brings for the top line RW to go with Hischier. Him and Hischier work well together, and we're trying to build around Nico and Hughes, so why not keep a 30g winger that has some grit to his game? We have Gusev for the 2nd line.. Palmieri for the top line.. then kids literally EVERYWHERE else except for Zajac. The return for Palmieri has to be greater than what we're giving up, or at least projected to be greater. I don't want a 20th overall pick that may not be as good in his prime as even a 34 year old Palmieri that could help us win a Cup. It's playing the odds and doing the math, in my opinion.

Coleman is a more understandable move, Vats too.. but Palmieri is a guy I think we should keep.

Without looking it up I'm going to guess Henrique, Severson, Hirschier andddddd idk Paul Martin?
- devilspep

Not Paul Martin. He was drafted in 2000. So no idea on the fourth. Miles Wood needs 7 more points to hit 100 so cheers to that I guess.

Elliotte Friedman on Sportsnet 590: "Devils have sent a signal that teams should make offers on Palmieri." Went onto other things then dropped back for "Think the Bruins are big on Kreider or Palmieri and Boston would consider a 1st for either"


Also in this 31 thoughts just released he said we're eyeing a 2nd round pick+ for Vats, makes sense given what the other D just went for

Elliotte Friedman on Sportsnet 590: "Devils have sent a signal that teams should make offers on Palmieri." Went onto other things then dropped back for "Think the Bruins are big on Kreider or Palmieri and Boston would consider a 1st for either"


Also in this 31 thoughts just released he said we're eyeing a 2nd round pick+ for Vats, makes sense given what the other D just went for
- vlongo4419

If Coleman got us 1st and a prospect, I'd like Palmieri to do the same if possible. Or maybe a high end prospect and a 2nd. Something like that.

Vats not having an extra year on the contract makes the 2nd make sense. Greene getting a 2nd was really just Lou doing Lou things and overpaying.

If Coleman got us 1st and a prospect, I'd like Palmieri to do the same if possible. Or maybe a high end prospect and a 2nd. Something like that.

Vats not having an extra year on the contract makes the 2nd make sense. Greene getting a 2nd was really just Lou doing Lou things and overpaying.
- Pomegrant

I think Lou cares for Andy a lot and wanted him to get a shot at the cup, hence the overpaying.

D market drying up real quick. Knights and Kings working on finalizing a deal for Martinez... Mckenzie saying if the deal gets done he expects the return to be around two 2nd round picks(Martinez still has 1 year left)

I think Lou cares for Andy a lot and wanted him to get a shot at the cup.
- Leniwm1

Lou cares about players to a fault though. He has given a lot of money/picks to acquire aging vets that he trusts. Love Greene and all, but a 2nd rounder for a bottom pairing defenseman when that asset could be used to help secure offense that the Islanders desperately need doesn't seem like a great move. Hoping Isles do well come playoffs though.

Lou cares about players to a fault though. He has given a lot of money/picks to acquire aging vets that he trusts. Love Greene and all, but a 2nd rounder for a bottom pairing defenseman when that asset could be used to help secure offense that the Islanders desperately need doesn't seem like a great move. Hoping Isles do well come playoffs though.
- Pomegrant

But in his defense, this allowed players like #4, #30 sign for less because they knew. Its bad business, but as a player in a world where money talks id imagine it means so much to them.

But in his defense, this allowed players like #4, #30 sign for less because they knew. Its bad business, but as a player in a world where money talks id imagine it means so much to them.
- Leniwm1

Much agreed, but you're seeing in the current NHL the trend is that players are getting paid for their primes and less for their past accomplishments. So it's more of gamble contracts rather than paying off vets for what they've done and riding out their retirement contracts.

Over the years we've had to deal with a lot of aging vets not living up to their contracts, which wasn't great from a fan experience at all.

Elliotte Friedman on Sportsnet 590: "Devils have sent a signal that teams should make offers on Palmieri." Went onto other things then dropped back for "Think the Bruins are big on Kreider or Palmieri and Boston would consider a 1st for either"


Also in this 31 thoughts just released he said we're eyeing a 2nd round pick+ for Vats, makes sense given what the other D just went for
- vlongo4419

just don't think a pick at the end of the 1st round is worth losing Palmieri, who has chemistry with our 21yr old 1st rd center who benefits from having an actual NHL winger to learn from, who's 29 with probably 5 productive years left, who's a leader in the room. We're trading that for a crapshoot in the late 1st round. I don't think I'm overvaluing what Palmieri is for this team, even if he did just turn 29.

just don't think a pick at the end of the 1st round is worth losing Palmieri, who has chemistry with our 21yr old 1st rd center who benefits from having an actual NHL winger to learn from, who's 29 with probably 5 productive years left, who's a leader in the room. We're trading that for a crapshoot in the late 1st round. I don't think I'm overvaluing what Palmieri is for this team, even if he did just turn 29.
- MartysBetter88

I think Palms will fetch a 3rd or 4th next year and you'll regret not doing this only one year earlier for a second rounder.

If you really care about Palms, then let him go.

just don't think a pick at the end of the 1st round is worth losing Palmieri, who has chemistry with our 21yr old 1st rd center who benefits from having an actual NHL winger to learn from, who's 29 with probably 5 productive years left, who's a leader in the room. We're trading that for a crapshoot in the late 1st round. I don't think I'm overvaluing what Palmieri is for this team, even if he did just turn 29.
- MartysBetter88

It clearly wouldnt just be a first, there would be a prospect or something else attached to it a as well. He was just stating that they are willing to part with their 1st in a trade for Palmieri.

If we get a return similar to Coleman, a 1st and A prospect, then im doing it all day long. And that seems to be the message Fitz is putting out there, pay up or we're keeping him

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
·
1m
Just landed back in Toronto from Denver and saw the Dillon and Scandella trades, with another on the way.
Alec Martinez to Vegas is being finalized, and Devils working on finalizing another move, as well.


Deal possibly coming

David Pagnotta
@TheFourthPeriod
·
1m
Just landed back in Toronto from Denver and saw the Dillon and Scandella trades, with another on the way.
Alec Martinez to Vegas is being finalized, and Devils working on finalizing another move, as well.


Deal possibly coming
- vlongo4419

I'm pretty sure this Pagnotta guy is a hack.

I'm pretty sure this Pagnotta guy is a hack.
- Pomegrant

I'm thinking he got fooled by the fake Devils account tweeting that Palmieri was a healthy scratch tonight, Friedman even retweeted too, then deleted after a minute or so

I'm thinking he got fooled by the fake Devils account tweeting that Palmieri was a healthy scratch tonight, Friedman even retweeted too, then deleted after a minute or so
- vlongo4419

Yeah, but I also remember him making up a bunch of poop that wasn't true in the past.

Yeah, but I also remember him making up a bunch of poop that wasn't true in the past.
- Pomegrant

Well he had the JT signing first, and was right about the Hall trade. Im sure he misses some, but he has his sources. But yeah im gonna assume he was fooled on this one. A lot of people were believing it including Frieds

Well he had the JT signing first, and was right about the Hall trade. Im sure he misses some, but he has his sources. But yeah im gonna assume he was fooled on this one. A lot of people were believing it including Frieds
- vlongo4419

he's a guy who wears a suit in his twitter picture to make him seem legit and he just steals other stuff from people on twitter then speculates as if it's fact.