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bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:24 PM ET
I'll take it. We have a 1C.
- MJL


You're not talking about 3Coots right?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
His profile picture was literally a clown for a long time
- bulet13


Hey look. It's a clown again.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:26 PM ET
My future (2021-2022 or later) line up prior to this season.
Lindblom - Patrick - TK
Farabee - Frost - Ratcliff
G - Coots - Jake
Raffl - Laughton - Pitlick

Provy - Nisky
Sanheim - Myers
Ghost - Morin

Hart
Sandstrom

- cdearth23


These are my doubts. Lindblom you shouldn’t put any expectations on.
I don’t think Niskanen will be here long either.

What is interesting is Patrick as your first line center and Frost as your second. Even with Patrick missing this entire season, Patrick is way better than Frost. Both have a few years to write their own stories.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:27 PM ET
Hey look. It's a clown again.
- PLindbergh31


Still say the Pronger and Coburn trades were some of the best trades we've made in my lifetime.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:28 PM ET
Every GM: getting great returns for their rentals

Dorian: yeah I'll take a 3rd for my second best defenseman
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 18 @ 2:29 PM ET
Every GM: getting great returns for their rentals

Dorian: yeah I'll take a 3rd for my second best defenseman

- bulet13

Fletcher: do nothing
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
If we decide to not resign Braun I would very much like to sign DeMelo
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
That doesnt mean it didnt happen lol

That was his avatar. It became his nickname. Nicknames dont change easily

- bulet13


Like Scooter, for Scooter pie I miss Scrubs
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
Fletcher: do nothing
- 2Real


Well currently we would be buyers but we have no cap space so what do you suggest he does?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 18 @ 2:31 PM ET
Its not even a discussion. The franchise would have been looked at crosseyed by EVERY SINGLE hockey related authority had they not chosen Hischier or Patrick.
- MBFlyerfan


Hischier and Patrick were the consensus No. 1 and No. 2, yes. But there were a few scouts who put Heiskanen and Makar in the mix as worthy of consideration that high, too.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
Still say the Pronger and Coburn trades were some of the best trades we've made in my lifetime.
- jmatchett383


Landing Pronger, landing Coburn, land Hartnell and Timonen were the best I’ve seen. You’d have to really breakdown that Forsberg deal.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
Hischier and Patrick were the consensus No. 1 and No. 2, yes. But there were a few scouts who put Heiskanen and Makar in the mix as worthy of consideration that high, too.
- bmeltzer


I'll give you that, but I didnt see the Flyers taking a dman at #2 regardless.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
Landing Pronger, landing Coburn, land Hartnell and Timonen were the best I’ve seen. You’d have to really breakdown that Forsberg deal.
- SuperSchennBros


Forsberg deal was great too. Remember how excited I was when I saw that. Too bad his foot couldnt hold up. Even though it didnt work out those few months of excitement were great lol
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Bill,

Since the 2004/2005 lockout ended, the CBA stated that any returns in trades must be fulfilled and that cash isn't tradeable. So I'm curious: what did the Flyers receive in return when they traded Roenick to LA? I can't find anything to point out what those "future considerations" actually were.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
I'll give you that, but I didnt see the Flyers taking a dman at #2 regardless.
- MBFlyerfan


No one did. The team need was a centerman with all the defensive prospects we drafted. Now there were some people on this board who wanted to trade back with the pick, but I can't remember anyone saying we should go D-man.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Forsberg deal was great too. Remember how excited I was when I saw that. Too bad his foot couldnt hold up. Even though it didnt work out those few months of excitement were great lol
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


That was BGMBC, not BGMPH.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Fletcher: do nothing
- 2Real



the Flyers won't be able to just add without moving players. they simply don't have the cap space. they are going to have to make a "hockey trade" like moving Ghost for a forward, etc. Fletcher moved a 2nd and third for one year of Braun so I don't believe for one moment he wouldn't move picks for help if they had the space to do so
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Fletcher: do nothing
- 2Real


Honestly, I'd rather do nothing that do what Ottawa just did.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:55 PM ET
Honestly, I'd rather do nothing that do what Ottawa just did.
- jmatchett383


Maybe we can get Ennis for a 4th from them
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
So let me get this right. Some of you take this site and the people on it so serious, you come up with offensive nicknames like “the clown”?
- SuperSchennBros


To add

More importantly, he's earned it
dfseed
Joined: 06.09.2008

Feb 18 @ 3:10 PM ET
These are my doubts. Lindblom you shouldn’t put any expectations on.
I don’t think Niskanen will be here long either.

What is interesting is Patrick as your first line center and Frost as your second. Even with Patrick missing this entire season, Patrick is way better than Frost. Both have a few years to write their own stories.

- SuperSchennBros



He said PRIOR to this season.
dfseed
Joined: 06.09.2008

Feb 18 @ 3:14 PM ET
My honest question is why do people knock Patrick, and don’t want him back this year when he has produced two 30 point seasons? Not necessarily on this board either. Yeah I get the injury concerns, but if you told me we get that guy with 10 regular seasons games left and and playoffs in a limited (4th line) role, I would take that every time.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 18 @ 3:18 PM ET
Right now, including Ghost, the Flyers have a 21-man roster and a little over $2M cap space available. If Patrick comes back, his cap hit is under $1M. They could carry 8D and have him be #8.

And yes, he is available, but at his full $5M+ cap hit.

- jmatchett383



only way I see it is if the Flyers make a bigger move, like packaging Ghost and trying to upgrade the O. I do think the Flyers could move multiple parts in an effort to get better but better would be a young top 6-9 forward, then they might need a Bogosian.

I cant imagine that is out there, so they shouldn't make a move. Kapanen seems to be a popular want for Philly, is he a big upgrade? I know the Leafs dont have a 1st, 3rd or a 5th this coming draft, if they don't feel like they will be a contender they might get antsy and make a move
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Feb 18 @ 3:19 PM ET
My honest question is why do people knock Patrick, and don’t want him back this year when he has produced two 30 point seasons? Not necessarily on this board either. Yeah I get the injury concerns, but if you told me we get that guy with 10 regular seasons games left and and playoffs in a limited (4th line) role, I would take that every time.
- dfseed

I'm with you. If Patrick is ready, then that's a good thing for the team. He will have to get a cup of coffee in LHV first to get him used to the game conditions first, but when ready, he would definitely help the team.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
My honest question is why do people knock Patrick, and don’t want him back this year when he has produced two 30 point seasons? Not necessarily on this board either. Yeah I get the injury concerns, but if you told me we get that guy with 10 regular seasons games left and and playoffs in a limited (4th line) role, I would take that every time.
- dfseed


Adding Patrick this late in the season would do wonders for this team down the middle. We saw how ineffective Giroux was at center before getting moved back to LW. But man, having Couts-Hayes-Patrick- Laughton as your centers... I think we'd be one of the strongest teams in the East at center which is great for the playoffs
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