You may have too. Colorado has shown to be willing to pay for assets and now has a gigantic hole in their lineup. You may have to outbid them.
- 2sticks1puck

Don't have too.
You're better off sending him to Col.
Sakics prospects are marginally better than Sweeney's.

Don't have too.
You're better off sending him to Col.
Sakics prospects are marginally better than Sweeney's.
- shoreorrpark

If you get Kreider, Studnika is gonna be a Ranger🤷🏻‍♂️Just my prediction

anyone notice how close the Isles are getting to falling out of a playoff spot?
- jimbro83

Isles have low key not been that good since New Years. At first they were kinda trading water as a .500 team, but the wheels are starting to come off. I don't think it's a given that we wouldn't catch them, but Tortz is a good enough coach to turn them around.

Don't have too.
You're better off sending him to Col.
Sakics prospects are marginally better than Sweeney's.
- shoreorrpark

Of course I want us to get the best package possible. I just think Boston has to upgrade somewhere. Tampa is a buzzsaw right now and you face the prospect of a second round series on the road. Pitt looks like they have gotten their act together as well. I could see Boston passing on Kreider, but who else would they get? Montreal isn't trading Kovy to you.

If you get Kreider, Studnika is gonna be a Ranger🤷🏻‍♂️Just my prediction
- Slimtj100

This is why I'm opposed to buying Kreider.

Of course I want us to get the best package possible. I just think Boston has to upgrade somewhere. Tampa is a buzzsaw right now and you face the prospect of a second round series on the road. Pitt looks like they have gotten their act together as well. I could see Boston passing on Kreider, but who else would they get? Montreal isn't trading Kovy to you.
- 2sticks1puck

Thank God, Montrèal won't trade us Kovalchuk.
I see a Kase, Gudbranson mix.
Palmari, perhaps.
I desire players with term.

This is why I'm opposed to buying Kreider.
- shoreorrpark

Is he the next Bergeron?

it's over...100% Kreider is getting traded

Its good you are preparing for the inevitable.

This is why I'm opposed to buying Kreider.
- shoreorrpark

I think he puts Boston over the top tho. With Krejci and Debrusk, that’s two great lines.

Do they even have room for Studnika? I mean he’s tearing up the AHL, and he’s still not up yet🤷🏻‍♂️

I don’t think they have any untouchables, they’re to close to winning it all for that

Hurricanes could be a dark horse for Kreider, and Georgy even. Those two would get them a heckuva haul from them

Isles have low key not been that good since New Years. At first they were kinda trading water as a .500 team, but the wheels are starting to come off. I don't think it's a given that we wouldn't catch them, but Tortz is a good enough coach to turn them around.
- 2sticks1puck

The Piles need more scoring, Trotz's system preaches defense but limits offense. He got away with it in Washington because of the fire power they have but the Piles dont have that firepower. Piles in need of a power forward.

Thank God, Montrèal won't trade us Kovalchuk.
I see a Kase, Gudbranson mix.
Palmari, perhaps.
I desire players with term.
- shoreorrpark

Those guys will cost a pretty penny too since they aren't rentals. Maybe not as much as Kreider, but considering Greene just got a 2nd, you have to expect a higher price. I also think with the Bruins potential cap crunch for next year, someone with term might not make sense unless you are shipping out some roster players.

Hurricanes could be a dark horse for Kreider, and Georgy even. Those two would get them a heckuva haul from them
- Slimtj100

Id rather keep AG and Shesty as a pair. They would be an incredible tandem for the next 3 yrs.

The Piles need more scoring, Trotz's system preaches defense but limits offense. He got away with it in Washington because of the fire power they have but the Piles dont have that firepower. Piles in need of a power forward.
- Brukie

Lehner masked alot of issues for them last year too.

Lehner masked alot of issues for them last year too.
- 2sticks1puck

So very true. Good goal tending hides a lot of deficiencies. We see it on a nightly basis here.

yeah they have salary problems after the season to tackle

but if the theory is that the trades that Tampa and Pittsburgh have created an arms race that Boston is desperate to respond to, they aren't concerned with the off season now

the price has gone up on Kreider now though, I think a 4 asset package with Frederic is the price

1st rounder, John Beecher, Frederic, another 1st rounder if Kreider re-signs there, a 2nd if he doesn't

that kind of trade
- jimbro83

Don’t see this happening. Even though Kreider is better than Toffoli, by a lot, GM’s have burned a lot by trading 1st round picks, and too young talent for rentals. If Kreider had a year or more in a manageable contract, the haul would be commensurate with the cost certainty. This week will validate one of us.

As for Hank, the only real trade partner is CO. I don’t see anyone disrupting their team building strategy to bring in an aging vet, unless there is some sweeteners, and I don’t think he will waive his clause to be moved unless he thinks there is a real possibility to win a cup. (Ray Bourque) I think the Rags owe the man his place as a Ranger forever. To send him off on a buyout sends an ugly message to loyal players, but he may want that, as he retires a Ranger.

If I were the rangers, I’d take what I could get, and move on. They aren’t winning it all this year, and have done a good job in a short period of time, retooling for the future.

Just an unbiased thought coming from a non ranger hockey fan.

Is he the next Bergeron?
- JRR1285

I don't believe so, but the boy can flat out play and he's getting better every game.
I see him as a suitable replacement, but he's no Bergeron.

I think he puts Boston over the top tho. With Krejci and Debrusk, that’s two great lines.

Do they even have room for Studnika? I mean he’s tearing up the AHL, and he’s still not up yet🤷🏻‍♂️

I don’t think they have any untouchables, they’re to close to winning it all for that
- Slimtj100

Yeah, it's purely asset management at this point. There's 5 kid's in Providence who would be more adequate in filling out the roster in both top and bottom 6 positions, but why burn up ELC's if they don't have too?
Not to mention the young defensemen who are chomping at the bit.

Those guys will cost a pretty penny too since they aren't rentals. Maybe not as much as Kreider, but considering Greene just got a 2nd, you have to expect a higher price. I also think with the Bruins potential cap crunch for next year, someone with term might not make sense unless you are shipping out some roster players.
- 2sticks1puck

Which cap crunch?
We're set.

Don’t see this happening. Even though Kreider is better than Toffoli, by a lot, GM’s have burned a lot by trading 1st round picks, and too young talent for rentals. If Kreider had a year or more in a manageable contract, the haul would be commensurate with the cost certainty. This week will validate one of us.

As for Hank, the only real trade partner is CO. I don’t see anyone disrupting their team building strategy to bring in an aging vet, unless there is some sweeteners, and I don’t think he will waive his clause to be moved unless he thinks there is a real possibility to win a cup. (Ray Bourque) I think the Rags owe the man his place as a Ranger forever. To send him off on a buyout sends an ugly message to loyal players, but he may want that, as he retires a Ranger.

If I were the rangers, I’d take what I could get, and move on. They aren’t winning it all this year, and have done a good job in a short period of time, retooling for the future.

Just an unbiased thought coming from a non ranger hockey fan.
- Hokeeguy9

I just don't see a scenario where teams aren't going to keep getting crazy. This could be Boston's last shot at a cup, Colorado has oodles of cap space to burn and could resign Kreider pretty easily. Teams like Toronto might (foolishly) look at kreider as a way to make some noise in the playoffs. It might not be the pie in the sky return, but even looking what hayes and Zucc got, teams have given up some pretty big assets for rentals.

I don't think Hank waives. He just loves it too much here. Even the fact he's the de facto third string now, I'm just not seeing it. Georgi could get moved as someone who has years of team control left.

As an aside, I'm happy with the rebuild. I'm not sure many people know it, but the Rangers are top 10 in the league in winning in regulation. We have more wins in Regulation than the Flyers and the Pens and only Edmonton has more regulation wins in the entire Western Conference (they have 1 more than us). Our problem has been salvaging a point in games and the fact the Metro is just stacked this year. Despite that, a couple more loser points and we would be right there.

Don’t see this happening. Even though Kreider is better than Toffoli, by a lot, GM’s have burned a lot by trading 1st round picks, and too young talent for rentals. If Kreider had a year or more in a manageable contract, the haul would be commensurate with the cost certainty. This week will validate one of us.

As for Hank, the only real trade partner is CO. I don’t see anyone disrupting their team building strategy to bring in an aging vet, unless there is some sweeteners, and I don’t think he will waive his clause to be moved unless he thinks there is a real possibility to win a cup. (Ray Bourque) I think the Rags owe the man his place as a Ranger forever. To send him off on a buyout sends an ugly message to loyal players, but he may want that, as he retires a Ranger.

If I were the rangers, I’d take what I could get, and move on. They aren’t winning it all this year, and have done a good job in a short period of time, retooling for the future.

Just an unbiased thought coming from a non ranger hockey fan.
- Hokeeguy9

Based on the returns for last few trades that have been made, CK20s return will be a 1st and high end cant miss prospect. Which will be a good trade for a soon to be UFA.

Im really torn with the Hank situation. I agree he should retire as a Ranger but the team is starving to win. We have one Cup in over 80 yrs none in the last 25 yrs. This is a business. The team must do what is best for the organization. Keeping AG and Shesty as a tandem is what is best for the team. If Hank accepts a trade or is bought out, he will always have his legacy. It will never be tarnished by what happens in the next few months. He hasnt done anything wrong. It is the way things have progressed.I really think if he had won a Cup, he would have retired this year.

Which cap crunch?
We're set.
- shoreorrpark

Not really, gotta figure Krug is going to want 6-7 million a year at the minimum. Debrusk is an RFA who isn't going to be cheap, you'll need a new backup goalie, and a couple depth guys are going to need to be resigned. If Chara decides to retire, you'll have to replace him too.

I just don't see a scenario where teams aren't going to keep getting crazy. This could be Boston's last shot at a cup, Colorado has oodles of cap space to burn and could resign Kreider pretty easily. Teams like Toronto might (foolishly) look at kreider as a way to make some noise in the playoffs. It might not be the pie in the sky return, but even looking what hayes and Zucc got, teams have given up some pretty big assets for rentals.

I don't think Hank waives. He just loves it too much here. Even the fact he's the de facto third string now, I'm just not seeing it. Georgi could get moved as someone who has years of team control left.

As an aside, I'm happy with the rebuild. I'm not sure many people know it, but the Rangers are top 10 in the league in winning in regulation. We have more wins in Regulation than the Flyers and the Pens and only Edmonton has more regulation wins in the entire Western Conference (they have 1 more than us). Our problem has been salvaging a point in games and the fact the Metro is just stacked this year. Despite that, a couple more loser points and we would be right there.
- 2sticks1puck

Metro is super strong. It really comes down to the teams the Rangers are chasing to actually lose.

Not really, gotta figure Krug is going to want 6-7 million a year at the minimum. Debrusk is an RFA who isn't going to be cheap, you'll need a new backup goalie, and a couple depth guys are going to need to be resigned. If Chara decides to retire, you'll have to replace him too.
- 2sticks1puck

Chara will sign up for another spin at 1million.
Debrusk will sign a bridge deal, if he isn't moved by Monday.
Krug won't command more $ than 37, 63, or 88. If he does, he can get it in Detroit.

Oodles of depth players to be had for low $.
I'll concede on the backup netminder though.

May I trade for one of your Russian tenders and J. Fast?

He is a good prospect, but behind at least 4 other forwards the Canucks have in the system. As well, the center depth of Pettersson, Horvat Gaudette meant that he was not cracking the lineup anytime soon. He was a 3rd rounder, developed into an asset, and used to aquire a 27yr old top 6 forward. With Boeser out 3-4 weeks, it was a good trade for both sides.