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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:43 AM ET
Trotz and Lou just aren't going to play young guys unless they have to. That's the new reality. The days of getting to see the young guys get a shot left us along with Garth and Dipshit Doug.

If Dobson were old enough, he wouldn't have been here at all this season either.

- eichiefs9


Garth and Doug use to play young players?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:44 AM ET
How can other teams even have much interest in Aho if the Isles are afraid to play him?
- ses111


Because his numbers in Bridgeport are stellar.

And his name sounds cool. Mustn’t forget that.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:44 AM ET
Because his numbers in Bridgeport are stellar.

And his name sounds cool. Mustn’t forget that.

- Wildschwein




Maybe the Isles can fool teams into thinking they are getting the other Aho.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
This opens up a couple new debates😂
- Cptmjl

Well I'm not commenting one way or another on it. But it is the truth. They're both on record numerous times saying that they'd rather "bring someone up too late than too early".
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
And the problem is that the market is clearly thin, teams are overpaying for talent that isn't top-tier, and the Islanders can't really afford to move the kind of assets that it would take to land the best of whatever is out there.

I've rambled on about what a great fit Pageau would be for this team for the better part of the last year, but at this point paying a 1st + a good-or-better prospect for a guy that is maybe a fringe 2nd liner would just be ridiculous.

If the prices stay as high as they appear to be right now then I just don't see how the Islanders can be in the market for anyone interesting.

- eichiefs9

And again they are stuck in limbo, not good enough to be legit contenders and not bad enough to get really high picks.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
Well I'm not commenting one way or another on it. But it is the truth. They're both on record numerous times saying that they'd rather "bring someone up too late than too early".
- eichiefs9


Good news Aho is ready to play the bad news the world is ending.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
Don't think that's gonna do it for Pageau. Ottawa has some real nice looking defensive prospects in Brannstrom/JBD/Lassi Thomson and I'm no sure Aho is going move the needle for them.

Anaheim/San Jose not looking so hot in that department though

- eichiefs9


Yup.

Labanc can’t cost too much more than that I’d think.

Then there’s Athanasiou. He’d cost a bit more I’m certain, but he’d be worth it.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
And again they are stuck in limbo, not good enough to be legit contenders and not bad enough to get really high picks.
- Upstate_isles


Yep! Have to think Lou was shocked he did not end up being a seller last deadline.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
And again they are stuck in limbo, not good enough to be legit contenders and not bad enough to get really high picks.
- Upstate_isles

I call that the "Minnesota Wild Zone"
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
I wouldn't be surprised to see Pageau get something like that. Maybe, if it's a first, the prospect isn't a high-end one or maybe it's a 2nd and a very good prospect. I just don't think this team is a Stanley Cup team even if we added Pageau. I don't think there are any rentals left out there that we could really justify giving up big time assets for.

I'm pretty much at "make moves with an eye towards the future" or "do nothing" at this point.

edit: And regarding Kase’s injury history…no doubt there’s some risk there but they’re going to have to do something risky because teams obviously won’t part with young RFA’s that are good players.

- eichiefs9

I'm not sure connor McDavid makes this team a legit contender
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 11:50 AM ET
If that’s the case then he shouldn’t have traded a second for Greene
- Cptmjl

If the only move he makes is for greene then he more than likely wasted a pick. I cant see who will make this team that much better but on top of that we dont have a lot of assets in the first place. Proverbial rock and a hard place
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
10 minutes until we know if we lost Bardreau on waivers
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
I call that the "Minnesota Wild Zone"
- eichiefs9


Darn long term contracts keeping teams in limbo. Even if they want to be sellers they cannot move these contracts without adding a big incentive.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
I'm not sure connor McDavid makes this team a legit contender
- Upstate_isles


No, but Draisaitl might.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
No, but Draisaitl might.
- Wildschwein


Get to work on this schwein.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
10 minutes until we know if we lost Bardreau on waivers
- eichiefs9


*sits on toilets and begins hyperventilating*
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
No, but Draisaitl might.
- Wildschwein

Sold
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
Darn long term contracts keeping teams in limbo. Even if they want to be sellers they cannot move these contracts without adding a big incentive.
- ses111

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
Get to work on this schwein.
- ses111


*scuffles feet and looks away*
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:55 AM ET

- eichiefs9




I'll never give up my fight against these contracts.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:56 AM ET

- eichiefs9




Ses is consistent, yah gotta give him that.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 18 @ 11:57 AM ET


Ses is consistent, yah gotta give him that.

- Wildschwein




That I am. I'm going to make the NHL great again. No more than 5 year contracts and no dopey 3 on 3 and shootout.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Feb 18 @ 11:58 AM ET

- eichiefs9

Looks like you are working the neck muscles for your glory hole second job
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
now
Cole Bardeau (NYI) and Taylor Leier (BUF) both clear waivers.


Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
now
Cole Bardeau (NYI) and Taylor Leier (BUF) both clear waivers.



- eichiefs9


Excellent. 👍

Now what?
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